LIVE GAME Round 4 v Warriors

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Tonymontana said:
win those 2 games and perhaps avoid a fourth. We have 2 very difficult away games coming up and could be 2-4 in no better position than last year. Aren't you sick of all this proud of the effort bullshit
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What you propose is highly unrealistic.

It would of course be great to be 4 and 0 but that's an outlying result: most teams can't put those sort of early-season starts together. Only Bulldogs have done it 2025. Of the teams on 3W: Storm lost to the Dragons (11th), Manly were thumped by the Warriors, Broncos lost to Raiders (12th). You could apply the same argument, "if only those teams beat the other lower-ranked teams, they would also be 4-0 with more difficult matches fast approaching".

But it's misleading to make those arguments or to hope/expect that you are going to win all or most of the close games. Reality is most teams win about half of their close matches. Only a handful of teams each year successfully win a significant number of close matches.

The real point, especially for a team like Tigers on the back of the wooden spoons, is firstly to ensure that most matches are close. The true indicator of a team that won't play finals footy = regular blowouts (as opposed to winning significantly less than half of their close games). Teams that keep most contests close tend to end up in the Top 8. Teams that win half or more of their games tend to end up in the Top 8.
 
Betterdays22 said:
He wasn't terrible but that play when he booted the ball out exemplified one of the Tigers biggest issues for as long as I can remember - horrendous decision making when the pressure is on. I dont know if it speaks to a lack of game awareness, fitness, talent or trying to take the easy option, or all of the above, but it was a reserve grade play from a good reserve grade player.
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One of the Tigers biggest issues (for as long as I can remember) is having too many reserve-grade quality players in the side being asked to make high-pressure decisions.
 
Jolls said:
A dissapointing result but a good game from two fairly evenly matched teams in poor conditions. All of the tries, from both teams, were soft and preventable.

I personally don't believe that Seyfarth or Latu F penalties were warranted; however, can see how the rules were interpreted differently at the time. I think some of the refereeing decisions lacked consistency, but this affected both teams, so attributing the result to poor officiating is unwarranted. I also thought live that the Warrior slowed the ruck without being penalised for it; however, the PTB speed overall favoured us - so potentially some bias from me at the time. Either way the game was decided by the football gods - not the ref.

You can argue either way as to Faataape's decison to kick the ball as opposed to dive on it towards the end of the game. Had the kick gone in field and resulted in points we would all be lauding him as a genius. Overall I thought he had a sound game.

We were a bounce of the ball short in this one; 1m short on a 40/20, ball dropped over the line, outside shoulder obstruction and rule interpretations. - any of them go the other way and it would be the Warriors wondering how that one got away.

It will be these close losses that hurt us - but if we can build from it we will benefit. Time to review the tape, identify the lessons and learn from them/correct the deficiencies, then shift our focus to preparing ourselves for Brisbane away. This will be a good test of our resolve.
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Good summary, just two points:
  • I think both teams were affected by the referring inconsistency, unfortunately for Tigers the calls against us ended up being key.
  • Average PTB speed can be misleading. For example the other team might be attempting to lie all over you every tackle (observable) but actually your team may still create lots of micro-breaks and/or land on their front, resulting in an overall PTB speed advantage despite the tactics of the opposition. Also your side may simply come out on top of the legal wrestle, which doesn't mean the opposition wasn't illegally slowing the ruck, just your side was better at legal tackle control. All of these can still leave you with a fair impression that the opposition was not being adequately policed for their ruck work.
 
Anybody saying that CNK didn’t look/milk/ initiate that contact on seyfarth has zero idea. There was a rumour that’s been getting louder that he is notorious in NRL circles for doing this . And Gus came out today and basically said the same thing. And basically reciprocated as such .
I’m not blaming CNK . It’s gamesmanship . I’m blaming the bunker who slows it down to frame by frame , sees the most minimal contact , that probably is let go 9 times out of ten, and , whilst I won’t decided the outcome , it definitely shouldn’t have been a variable in the outcome .
This whole crackdown is in response to the criticism the bunker has gotten , to shift the narrative from “refs suck” to players need to learn to tackle .
It’s politics 101 , and the usually suspects have fallen for it .
 
Rewatched the entire game and the fact is we played pretty well
After a 12 all first half where the warriors had much more ball in our red zone we still broke even
In the 2nd half we crossed the line in the 50th ,53rd ,57th and 66th minute
The latter 2 were disallowed first by May losing control a foot from the line and then Bula with brilliant sidestep counting for nothing due to Toa colliding with Metcalfe .Still went very close twice to sealing the game
Enough comment already been made re the penalty on Seyfarth with CNK face contacting his shoulder .As CNK said post game " it was an accident "
IMO accidental contact is not a penalty if the tackler is not reckless which he wasn't.
All in all
We lose Skelton days before , we lose Douehi minutes before ,we lose Samuela well before half time , we lose Turuva 15mins HIA .
We had half the team playing out of position , Warriors had about 3 sets on our line which we defended
By crossing the line 4 times in the 2nd half says our attack is still classy
Our defence all game was good except the warriors try in the 5th minute and the one in the 70 th minute
All in all its like games are decided by inches and the luck just wasn't with us this time
Luck has a habit of balancing out and I see many more wins on the horizon
Don't write us off next Sat night at Suncorp
Luai out but Latu getting better each week
We beat the Dolphins 5 tries to 3 and then the Broncos beat the Dolphins 4 tries to 3 at Suncorp
Difficult but not impossible Sports Bet has us at $6 but what would they know as a couple of weeks ago they had the Roosters at $12 who then WON !
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
Yeah I know but even accidents could end up in the sinbin from now on, tell you something I think in the next game I'm getting a nagging feeling someone is going to be sent off just hope it's not one of ours.
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Can't see the Broncos not getting the hometown rub of the green to be honest.

Ref and bunker will probably make an example of us with these new NRL edicts.
 
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