LIVE GAME Round 5 v Broncos

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balmain boy said:
Benji's atrocious use of the bench last night is one of the main reasons we lost. Sure the Broncos just have a shit tonne more talent than us but somehow Tony bloody Sukkar played 60 mins last night! And TDS played 20, despite a spine player going down. It made much more sense to move Api to halfback to help guide a struggling Galvin, than to short Doueihi to 5/8, push bird to centre and have Sukkar play out the game.

The fact Sukkar even came on street 20 mins is cause for massive concern. There was no need. Hunt not seen at end of first half was a massive mistake.

Why did we have a different goal kicker for our first 3 shots? Surely we knew who was first choice kicker? This level of disorganisation is unacceptable. Missing those 3 goals was extremely costly. If Doueihi was fit enough to take one he takes them all.

We still pass the ball to Twal far too much, especially in the opposition 20. It's a lead balloon to the attack every time he touches it, he's our least dangerous forward yet he touches it more than any other, even when we don't need a settler.

And Benji needs to get Galvin under control. He keeps trying to be everywhere all the time but then he ends up running in circles and contributing little. He's like a headless chook out there when he's running the ball. He doesn't have the pace Power or skill to be a threat when running, and he needs to be told to be much more selective when he runs. Leave the running to Luai, latu and api.
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balmain boy said:
Benji's atrocious use of the bench last night is one of the main reasons we lost. Sure the Broncos just have a shit tonne more talent than us but somehow Tony bloody Sukkar played 60 mins last night! And TDS played 20, despite a spine player going down. It made much more sense to move Api to halfback to help guide a struggling Galvin, than to short Doueihi to 5/8, push bird to centre and have Sukkar play out the game.

The fact Sukkar even came on street 20 mins is cause for massive concern. There was no need. Hunt not seen at end of first half was a massive mistake.

Why did we have a different goal kicker for our first 3 shots? Surely we knew who was first choice kicker? This level of disorganisation is unacceptable. Missing those 3 goals was extremely costly. If Doueihi was fit enough to take one he takes them all.

We still pass the ball to Twal far too much, especially in the opposition 20. It's a lead balloon to the attack every time he touches it, he's our least dangerous forward yet he touches it more than any other, even when we don't need a settler.

And Benji needs to get Galvin under control. He keeps trying to be everywhere all the time but then he ends up running in circles and contributing little. He's like a headless chook out there when he's running the ball. He doesn't have the pace Power or skill to be a threat when running, and he needs to be told to be much more selective when he runs. Leave the running to Luai, latu and api.
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Do you expect the boys to see twal in position for a run and turn the other way? The man is a workhorse, he needs to keep grinding how he is and opportunities will come.

Galvin is an eyes up player, you cannot tame a player like that by forcing him into a set play system, the player will lose himself and you’ll end up with an illias or a Flanagan. He also held his own in defence against haas. May not have been his best game for us but can’t scrutinise the man for playing his game.

As far as sukkar goes, the man held his own comfortably. Definitely thought he was one of our best. Happy to see that you had to eat all your words about him in KOE considering he had a great game.

Benji is trying to bleed the young bloods in. This is how teams create depth, seen many teams do it before us, and there will be many teams doing it after us. He’s doing a great job so far.

There is a reason you’re watching from your couch and not in any position to make a decision on the tigers or the maggies.
 
Tigerscout said:
Do you expect the boys to see twal in position for a run and turn the other way? The man is a workhorse, he needs to keep grinding how he is and opportunities will come.

Galvin is an eyes up player, you cannot tame a player like that by forcing him into a set play system, the player will lose himself and you’ll end up with an illias or a Flanagan. He also held his own in defence against haas. May not have been his best game for us but can’t scrutinise the man for playing his game.

As far as sukkar goes, the man held his own comfortably. Definitely thought he was one of our best. Happy to see that you had to eat all your words about him in KOE considering he had a great game.

Benji is trying to bleed the young bloods in. This is how teams create depth, seen many teams do it before us, and there will be many teams doing it after us. He’s doing a great job so far.

There is a reason you’re watching from your couch and not in any position to make a decision on the tigers or the maggies.
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Well. On the other hand if there were no fans on the couch there would be no team. Without your interest - they are bust.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Only way Bunker could rule on forward passes is they would need to change the float forward rule.

Bunker then could use line based technology and rule on forward passes easily.
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This is theoretically true, but they simply couldn't realistically change this rule; it would slow the game so much it'd be near impossible to score the great "wingers tries".

Agree with X, it's just been really bad non-calls that we're blatantly obvious imo.
 
Droppy05 said:
I think he was gutless not to say what really went down. A lot to learn if the Tigers are to get the rub of the green from refs, if we just cop it.
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Frustrating , I know. If I'm a coach I'm calling all the coaches and organising for all of us to spray the N.R.L about the standard of officiating and the way the games being run. What will the N.R.L do fine all the coaches, if they all agree to tell the N.R.L to shove their fines and not pay them what will they do reregister all 17 coaches, I don't think so.
 
Demps said:
Utilise technology.

There was so many mistakes last night that its clear the HUMANS running the show are not capable of correctly doing the job.

Time to recruit and re-train or move onto a technological assist to make up with the multiple referees shortcomings.
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With forward passes, let the video ref overrule the obvious ones where it is passed forward out of the hands like Cobbo’s last night
 
Dr_Ice said:
With forward passes, let the video ref overrule the obvious ones where it is passed forward out of the hands like Cobbo’s last night
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Quite amazing how the scoreline could quite easily have been the other way around last night if decisions were made correctly and a few minor things went our way (Luke Laulilii grounding it for a try & Fonua Pole not being a driver in Royce Hunt no try).
 
mikey said:
Thing that irks me the most is they can't adjudicate on forward passes - ffs. They can pick up the tiniest wobble of ball control but NO we couldn't possibly judge something so obvious as a 2 metre forward pass if the ref and the touchies miss it.
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Soccer can pick up a player for been off side , surely they could use that technology to stop this terrible forward pass crap , but the refs and linesman are right in line yet they just refuse to call it out , they should be sacked for it
 
A team that can afford.to have a 255 game marty taupau and as 18th man also manage to have.all but two games from round 3 to round.11 at Suncorp...talk about kissed on the arse
 
mikey said:
Thing that irks me the most is they can't adjudicate on forward passes - ffs. They can pick up the tiniest wobble of ball control but NO we couldn't possibly judge something so obvious as a 2 metre forward pass if the ref and the touchies miss it.
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They only did it once in a Broncos v sharks game pretty sure the sharks scored off a blatant forward pass, like I mean it was deadset intentionally thrown forward cause the support player over ran the ball runner and he scored, the ref awarded a try. Bunker starts looking at it and it's blatant, commentators are saying its gone up a try the bunker can't adjudicate on forward passes blah, blah, blah. After about 5 min the bunker get back to the ref no try its a knock on, they could use the knock on to adjudicate forward passes like they did that night.
 
JC99 said:
Bula is not improving? Not sure what you're watching. His playmaking ability had improved leaps and bounds - which was also pointed out by Benji

Last year he had a habit of playing sideways and running his outside men out of room. This year he's straightened up much better and set up his outside backs plenty already.

Still very safe under the high ball and a great runner of the footy too. Bula is the very least of our worries in the team, and he won't be getting dropped any time soon.

There's not many "defensive" fullbacks in the league at all, but he's not bad at it either. Last two seasons he's been up the top for try savers.
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Im pretty critical of any player who signs up with I Moses mid contract as Im focussed on the short term...because ods are there is unlikely to be a long term with WTs !
The moment Moses happens Im doing my best to retain him,but concurrently scouting for his repacement,and keen to extract the most out of him whilst hes with us
So not that excited about excuses//particularly missed tackles and positional play.Hes still nowhere near the top 10 fulbacks in the comp,which we need to g0 forward
 
I just watched the Hunt NO TRY and that is a terrible decision.
After like 400 replays they come to this decision.
He was about 1 metre over the line already and about 5cm off the ground and scoring himself and Pole touches him. Tell me they take this try of a Storm, Panthers and Broncos team.

Such double standards in the game itself plus in suspensions as well..
 
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