Tiger Stripes
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He now runs in and tackles head on. The arm grabbing as they run past appears to be history......OR under Luai's insistance?
LIVE GAME Round 9 vs Dragons
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Live Game Discussion
crazycat
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Halbrowne makes a good point...
Go against a top side, like Cronulla, Storm or Dogs at the moment.... Tells us if we are finalists or pretenders.
Just this year, it's all over the place. Not just us, Everyone seems to be loosing games they should win and winning games they should loose.
We beat Dragons and Cronulla, yet lost against Parramatta... But were the bloody tigers, I expect inconsistent results...
Just the comp this year is all over the place...
Still it's a valid point. If you can beat a top side once, you can beat them again. If we can beat a full Storm side in round 10, we can beat them in the finals.
I’ll be there !
The Chad
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Ok, so I was at the game with my Dragons-supporting brother.
Here are what I take away from the game:
Our kick chase in the 1st half was eons better than the Dragons. We were contesting every kick. The Dragons had 10-15m between our kick returner & their first defender. It showed in the way the game played- we were rolling all over the field & they were struggling.
Second half was a different story. Suddenly they had room to run. I would think the wheels started to fall off after 3 games in 13 days, including nearly a full extra 20 minutes against the Sharks. Once the kick pressure dropped off, the Dragons started to roll.
The Dragons look like a significantly bigger team & made easy metres through the middle.
Our sweeping attack beat them nearly every occasion. To fast & they couldn't scramble. On the other hand- once Leilua came on, Gutho & Luc ran specifically at Galvin through the 2nd half & had a field day against him.
I said a couple of weeks back that Lehi Hopoate had produced the worst defensive game I ever saw. Then Naden challenged that.
Our second rowers are getting far more involved. Seyfarth had a couple of nice touches & Sam Fainu looks to be getting into form.
Luai covers so much of the field. I didn't realise how active he is in attack until I saw it live.
The ground announcer absolutely loves Jacob Liddle. I swear he was reading Liddle's Tinder bio out at every opportunity. Liddle is playing his whatever amount of games tonight. He hails from the south coast. His interests are long walks on the beach & Saturday night football...I think I heard the announcer talk about him 4-5 times. It was weird.
I am concerned about how Galvin reacts when he is on the end of something not going his way. Mistakes, missed tackles, getting pushed off...he seems to switch off instead of get back into it. That said, his assist in Staines' first try was sublime.
May can't keep playing 80 minutes. He did the team no favours on Saturday. Benji needed to rest him. Sione & Hunt should have been on the field more. In fact, Hunt was criminally underused. He was drawing 3-4 defenders at a time. Watching May get bumped off in tackles was the sign. I'd contemplate giving May a start off the bench next week & let Hunt blast out 20 minutes against the Storm early.
Twal is a beast. Plodder this, ineffective that. The way he keeps fighting forward in attack & his consistent defence are impressive.
Bula is outstanding. That was a try for all money on the contested catch with Gutho.
Here are what I take away from the game:
Our kick chase in the 1st half was eons better than the Dragons. We were contesting every kick. The Dragons had 10-15m between our kick returner & their first defender. It showed in the way the game played- we were rolling all over the field & they were struggling.
Second half was a different story. Suddenly they had room to run. I would think the wheels started to fall off after 3 games in 13 days, including nearly a full extra 20 minutes against the Sharks. Once the kick pressure dropped off, the Dragons started to roll.
The Dragons look like a significantly bigger team & made easy metres through the middle.
Our sweeping attack beat them nearly every occasion. To fast & they couldn't scramble. On the other hand- once Leilua came on, Gutho & Luc ran specifically at Galvin through the 2nd half & had a field day against him.
I said a couple of weeks back that Lehi Hopoate had produced the worst defensive game I ever saw. Then Naden challenged that.
Our second rowers are getting far more involved. Seyfarth had a couple of nice touches & Sam Fainu looks to be getting into form.
Luai covers so much of the field. I didn't realise how active he is in attack until I saw it live.
The ground announcer absolutely loves Jacob Liddle. I swear he was reading Liddle's Tinder bio out at every opportunity. Liddle is playing his whatever amount of games tonight. He hails from the south coast. His interests are long walks on the beach & Saturday night football...I think I heard the announcer talk about him 4-5 times. It was weird.
I am concerned about how Galvin reacts when he is on the end of something not going his way. Mistakes, missed tackles, getting pushed off...he seems to switch off instead of get back into it. That said, his assist in Staines' first try was sublime.
May can't keep playing 80 minutes. He did the team no favours on Saturday. Benji needed to rest him. Sione & Hunt should have been on the field more. In fact, Hunt was criminally underused. He was drawing 3-4 defenders at a time. Watching May get bumped off in tackles was the sign. I'd contemplate giving May a start off the bench next week & let Hunt blast out 20 minutes against the Storm early.
Twal is a beast. Plodder this, ineffective that. The way he keeps fighting forward in attack & his consistent defence are impressive.
Bula is outstanding. That was a try for all money on the contested catch with Gutho.
Tiger_Fanatic3
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Happy tigers offloaded Klemmer
Halbrowne61
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Have to comment Ink, my rationale for most things is that competing with the best gives you a real indication of where you’re at. Storm are near the top of the tree imo and so I want to watch how the Tigers go against them, as distinct from Sharks or Dragons.
If we go toe to toe then I’m sold on our improvement, coz if we have any real finals aspirations these are the games we can make everyone sit up and take notice.
happy_tiger
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Storm have been flying out of the blocks in most games .....we need to stay with them for the 1st 30 minutes
Galvin and his family have always been Parra fans and he simply wants to play for them. This BS about not improving under Benji is just a smoke screen.
innsaneink
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Yeah fair enough...its just that "next week will tell us.....", does my head in...the past few weeks tell us more becausenits fact.
But yeah i agree regarddless of form and the up and down swings of most teams in the comp this season...theyre one of the benchmarks....i imagine the raiders would be felling pretty good right about now and rightly so
Beating Melbourne would be great but the last two victories were the best measure of any hope the club may have in having a successful season imo. They are all worth two points and if you want to be there at the right end you have to win as many as you can.
Beating Melbourne but not winning enough games will get you nowhere in the end.
Beating Melbourne but not winning enough games will get you nowhere in the end.
Jolls
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Looking back at the game, with a bit of space from watching it live, from a defensive prespective there wera a couple of poor reads but for the most part in the second half the tries came from broken play and our guys simply didn't turn up for the scamble becuase we were walking back into position. I think the effort to win last week came home to roost in the second half.
If we look at the tries scored against us:
Melbourne will be stinging after the loss yesterday, but the Canberra were nothing more than tenacious. We have that in us as well so a good bounce of the ball and we can take our chances. I don't expect a win this week; but I think that we are unstructured enough to upset the Melbourne defensive system. If we can compete in Defence it coudl be a close game.
If we look at the tries scored against us:
- Galvin turns in as does the defensive line - this is good drills; however, Seyfarth completely misses his assignment on the runner and finds himself in no mans land. The infield pressure is there but not close enough. Chalk that try up the the Sri Lankan - the system worked but the individual missed his mark.
- Galvin gets two hands to the ball and bats it back to Klemmer. This is the first error in the sequence. Iy he coudl get two hands to the ball he should have caught it. This fascination with modern players for taking the high risk option is beyond me; if he couldn't get good ball away we would have handed the ball over with a set line. A quick shft and Naden falls for the dummy from Holmes, Taruva misses the tackle. Bula was there in cover and Galvin arrived, but late. Can't really lay the blame on Naden as he was in postion to tackle the winger had the ball been released.
- Sua's no try was an insight to where we were headed in the second half. We had made the effort to cover but there was little effort on the other side of the paddock to reset the line, the quick shift back caught us out for numbers and it should have been a try but we know what happened. Melbourne did this exact play agaisnt Canberra but executed the shift with a kick from Munster - so we will need to be on out toes next week.
- There were signs early in the second half that fatigue had set in. The Gutherson break down the middle was straght through Api and we simply failed to get back onside, or the ensuing play the ball - several players had their backs to the ball when Lids took off and we presented a broken line to the play. This was the form for the rest of the half.
- Lids try from Dummy half was partly Pole getting caught up in the ruck; however, Liddle is a known. We should have been expecting it; soft try from poor goal line defence. Was this just another sign of fatigue? We didn't make basic errors like this in the fist eight rounds.
- Lids second try comes from a half break down the right wing but there is no effort from the middle to get back in cover. The inside pass to King Tongia has him in the space with Lids in support. Again, uncharacteristic defensive effort.
Melbourne will be stinging after the loss yesterday, but the Canberra were nothing more than tenacious. We have that in us as well so a good bounce of the ball and we can take our chances. I don't expect a win this week; but I think that we are unstructured enough to upset the Melbourne defensive system. If we can compete in Defence it coudl be a close game.
Halbrowne61
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You miss my point, imo we won’t beat Melbourne, but being very competitive against them on top of winning those other games is a very good sign.
The bit that has me worried are all of their big wins are early afternoon games.
Jolls
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I think he cost them at least two as well through some inept decisions and poor pass selection.
Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan
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That reminds me of another WT player who was a Parra junior but told to look elsewhere due to being small or something of the sorts. Got his start here then went back to Parra. Think his name was Mitchell. May even be related to Galvin. Oh god.
Enjoy the game Hal,
I would have preferred Melbourne winning yesterday as I expect Bellamy will have them primed for a big one after losing.
But as you mentioned this will give us a real indication of how we are travelling.
Don’t forget to give those old tigers
Paps
Blore
Steff
A good cheer when you get the chance.
Hi Hal, I’m going too. Do you know if there is a tigers / away section to buy tickets for?
twentyforty
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Yes, that game was memorable. We won 10-8 with Brooks our only try scorer. We were playing well with a strong forward pack. Our team now is capable of repeating that effort. We're now open for business with red zone options.
Buttface
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That’s a great stat to have.
