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With all this discussion about assistant coaches one thing is unclear to me;

Have West Tigers officially appointed the Assistant Coach/s. If the decision has been made is not it time to accept it and get on with 2013\. I can't see how the forum is going to change the decision. Be poistive and accept it. It reminds me when school kids give the excuse that they have not done well during the year because of the school teacher they have. Be mature to realise that your destiny is in your hands.
 
@Newtown said:
@innsaneink said:
I wouldnt use that game as any example Newtown, the players had only hours earlier learnt of Robbies mums passing

The match I am referring to is the 2nd encounter played at Allianz Stadium. Most of the WT players did not seem to have much attitude at all and it coincided with the rumoured departure of Heighnington and Ryan. Although it waas not publicised at the time it happened to be Sheens last match as WT coach. The attitude and effort displayed by the team was to say the least very unprofessional. I paid good money to see this match and was looking forward to it as a win would have guaranteed a semi spot for WT. The only determination shown by the team was that they would play with only 50% of normal enthusiasm. If only I knew beforehand. Not a good look for supporters. Not a good look for the club.

Yep, aware of this now….was a terrible performance from us.

Who was coach the following week?
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@Goose said:
Royce was credited by John Lang as building the squad that won the 2003 premiership

Do you have any evidence of this?

@Goose said:
Royce was the defence/assistant coach of the 2005 premiership

True. However our defense was far from great that season either, even if we did win the comp.

Royce was also our defence/assistant coach in 2006-2009.

@Goose said:
Coached 187 games at NRL far more than almost all assistants plus head coach experience in the UK in 3 separate stints.

I don't see how this coaching experience is relevant. His record at Penrith was awful, only making the finals twice in seven seasons and with a win percentage of 41%. Also won a wooden spoon.

In England, he was sacked from St Helens in his second season.

@Goose said:
I do however object to people quashing others opinions by declaring there own opinions as facts, which is exactly what happened here.

Royce is a failure is an opinion not a fact.

I was specifically speaking of facts, such as his win percentage, wooden spoon with Penrith etc. These are facts are they not?

You miss the point completely.

There are facts to support your opinion, no doubt.

The facts that i mentioned above are also facts and they support the opposite position. You can argue relevance or add further facts, but your conclusion is still an opinion. Just like the earlier poster, his conclusion from the facts is his opinion.

It couyld easily be argued simply becoming an NRL coach means you are not a failure as a coach.
 
This is nuts ,you both agree on the fact that Royce is not a good head coach

Whether it is fact or opinion you agree :brick:

I want us to have a specialized defensive coach not Royce

Get us Gilly , Peter Ryan or John Muggleton
 
@innsaneink said:
Just a snapshot on a part of our defense:

Tries conceded –---last 5 seasons (minus semis)

**WTs** - 2012 - 95, **2011 - 76** , 2010 - 84, **2009 - 83**, 2008 - 98 = 436 tries or **1744 points**
**Melb** - 2012 - 66, **2011 - 52**, 2010 - 62, **2009 - 60**, 2008 - 50 = 290 tries or **1160 points**

What I was bangining on about endlessly weeks back…...this is why Melb are so successful
While we were farting around arguing between the board and trying to "ensure we get the right rookie coach"...Bellamy and co were learning new things from experts
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Melbourne Storm coach Craig Bellamy scours the planet in search for sporting excellence
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CRAIG Bellamy will scour the earth looking for an edge.
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The Melbourne coach was even on hand when Clermont Auvergne, a French rugby side, racked up their 42nd consecutive home win.
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"The thing Mark Webber really emphasised is that, at Red Bull, he's one of two drivers," Bellamy explained. "But behind him, there are another 600 people - mechanics and so on - who are all working together on race day. And to get across that finish line first, he needs every one of them doing their job perfectly."
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"You can win a game, win a premiership, but you can never really be satisfied. Because the moment you stand still, someone passes you."
 
Like others I think we needed a complete new coaching team but for what ever reason, probably money it did not happen. As for Royce he is no super coach but he is probably a good bloke to have around the club. The players seem to like him and when things get a little dark he probably can lighten things up.

Really what role does a assistant coach play??? Potter is the man and I suppose he is just another set of eyes
 
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