Russian invasion of Ukraine

This is the deepest conspiracy there ever was. Every week it gets deeper and deeper. I am starting to think I may be involved and haven’t realised it yet.
Im going to say this once and thats it ,Im outa here....all isnt as it seems...there are plenty of diversions and untruths around the world at the moment....
If you all think that the world as we know it now will survive,then you have to get your heads out of the sand and think for yourselves...
eg...Trudeau enacted the emergency act to disperse the truckers peaceful protest in Canada....he was overuled by a court judge because his actions were illegal.in breach of the peoples constitutional rights...he had no right freezing truckers bank accounts....
eg...Jacinda Adherns mandates were overuled by a court judge on the grounds that they were illegal against the people of NZ s rights...
theres 2 examples of Prime Ministers overeaching their fundamental powers...
If your a PM surely you know whats legal or whats not...poor advisors or lack of knowledge for the job...
But alas,both are Klaus Swabbs young globilists that were funded by WEF...
So is Macron of France,Merckel of Germany who is now out of power...
Scomo is also in the same bag and you will hear more of him in the coming weeks...
The Argentinian President is also one of the young globalists...
Putin was a part of it and got out because he is Christian and seen what the WEF was all about...
So call me a goon a conspiracy theorist or what ever....but its no coincidence that the WEF has leaders in many countries and has many people in cabinets world wide...
Zelensky of Ukraine was put in power by the WEF Klaus Swabb,Soros to protect their interest....the people DIDNT vote him in...

Thats all that im giving atm ....Im out of here because I try to give some info away from MSM but it seems that Im a lunatic because my opinions and research doesnt suit others...
And as far as Tiger 5150 goes ,he is quite entitled to his opinion as we all are...he may be right and I maybe right...we have to wait and see...
the discussion I had in regard to Iraq and how it was released out of the Chapter7 of the IMF is as far as my info correct...The Iraq dinar HAD TO BE RE-INSTATED so it could be revalued and placed back on the stock exchange...irrespective of what 5150 says.Iraq had to pay back Kuwait reparation for damages caused by the war,the only ones that suffered severely were the people of Iraq,that is about to be rectified..Iraq has to seat the Govt after their last election before an exchange rate can be communicated,although it is up to the CBI...CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ...lots of stuff still to be sorted...
Once again call me all you like....I dont just post to big note myself.I try to get people to have an open mind on what really is going on around us...but thanks to the few that want to belittle me I have been on this forum for over 8 years and have enjoyed the many conversations that I have had with many,,,the best time I had was meeting so many great guys from this forum at our get togethers,unfortunately there are some new people on here that want to degrade me without knowing me,its fine to disagree within a topic but to call me an IGNORAMOUS without knowing me really shows how low a person can go without having an adult conversation...
Its been fun.its been adventurous and most of all it has been a great place to meet and converse with truly good friends,its a shame others have spoilt the ride...
God bless.may all you beautiful people have a prosperous life free of adverse situations.and filled with love,hope and peace for many years to come...
 
is every 1 with tiger in there tag a arguementive toss swoddle,
Im going to say this once and thats it ,Im outa here....all isnt as it seems...there are plenty of diversions and untruths around the world at the moment....
If you all think that the world as we know it now will survive,then you have to get your heads out of the sand and think for yourselves...
eg...Trudeau enacted the emergency act to disperse the truckers peaceful protest in Canada....he was overuled by a court judge because his actions were illegal.in breach of the peoples constitutional rights...he had no right freezing truckers bank accounts....
eg...Jacinda Adherns mandates were overuled by a court judge on the grounds that they were illegal against the people of NZ s rights...
theres 2 examples of Prime Ministers overeaching their fundamental powers...
If your a PM surely you know whats legal or whats not...poor advisors or lack of knowledge for the job...
But alas,both are Klaus Swabbs young globilists that were funded by WEF...
So is Macron
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Im going to say this once and thats it ,Im outa here....all isnt as it seems...there are plenty of diversions and untruths around the world at the moment....
If you all think that the world as we know it now will survive,then you have to get your heads out of the sand and think for yourselves...
eg...Trudeau enacted the emergency act to disperse the truckers peaceful protest in Canada....he was overuled by a court judge because his actions were illegal.in breach of the peoples constitutional rights...he had no right freezing truckers bank accounts....
eg...Jacinda Adherns mandates were overuled by a court judge on the grounds that they were illegal against the people of NZ s rights...
theres 2 examples of Prime Ministers overeaching their fundamental powers...
If your a PM surely you know whats legal or whats not...poor advisors or lack of knowledge for the job...
But alas,both are Klaus Swabbs young globilists that were funded by WEF...
So is Macron of France,Merckel of Germany who is now out of power...
Scomo is also in the same bag and you will hear more of him in the coming weeks...
The Argentinian President is also one of the young globalists...
Putin was a part of it and got out because he is Christian and seen what the WEF was all about...
So call me a goon a conspiracy theorist or what ever....but its no coincidence that the WEF has leaders in many countries and has many people in cabinets world wide...
Zelensky of Ukraine was put in power by the WEF Klaus Swabb,Soros to protect their interest....the people DIDNT vote him in...

Thats all that im giving atm ....Im out of here because I try to give some info away from MSM but it seems that Im a lunatic because my opinions and research doesnt suit others...
And as far as Tiger 5150 goes ,he is quite entitled to his opinion as we all are...he may be right and I maybe right...we have to wait and see...
the discussion I had in regard to Iraq and how it was released out of the Chapter7 of the IMF is as far as my info correct...The Iraq dinar HAD TO BE RE-INSTATED so it could be revalued and placed back on the stock exchange...irrespective of what 5150 says.Iraq had to pay back Kuwait reparation for damages caused by the war,the only ones that suffered severely were the people of Iraq,that is about to be rectified..Iraq has to seat the Govt after their last election before an exchange rate can be communicated,although it is up to the CBI...CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ...lots of stuff still to be sorted...
Once again call me all you like....I dont just post to big note myself.I try to get people to have an open mind on what really is going on around us...but thanks to the few that want to belittle me I have been on this forum for over 8 years and have enjoyed the many conversations that I have had with many,,,the best time I had was meeting so many great guys from this forum at our get togethers,unfortunately there are some new people on here that want to degrade me without knowing me,its fine to disagree within a topic but to call me an IGNORAMOUS without knowing me really shows how low a person can go without having an adult conversation...
Its been fun.its been adventurous and most of all it has been a great place to meet and converse with truly good friends,its a shame others have spoilt the ride...
God bless.may all you beautiful people have a prosperous life free of adverse situations.and filled with love,hope and peace for many years to come...
only once,pinky promise,??????????????????????
 
Good to see the traffic lights are still working
 

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You draw some daft parallels for an educated man such as yourself. If you want war just say so .. enough cheerleading😆😆

Genuinely no idea what you are talking about. I dont want war but I do want the US to be strong with Russia. If no one stands up to them, then no one will stand up to them.

That doesnt mean riding into Ukraine guns blazing but at a minimum they should have the guts and stop buying 600,000 barrels of oil a day from Russia and not be negotiating with them as an intermediary with Iran.
 
So Ukraine under NATO power offers this to the west where they can threaten Russia at a weak point taking advantage of the south north approach bypassing Belarus and approach Moscow conventionally or threaten with nuclear weapons .

Your thoughts?

Serious question. You think NATO has offensive motives? Do yo ugenuinely think NATO wanted to attack Russia? There are only defensive capabilities in the NATO charter, no offensive.

It makes sense for Ukraine to want to be in NATO, to prevent what has happened.

Obviously NATO could/should have been more sympathetic to Russias paranoia but other than that.

Do you realise that NATO offered membership to Russia? In 1994 Russia signed onto NATO "partnership for Peace". In 1997 Russia and Nato signed "The Founding Act on Mutual Relations", a road map for full NATO membership for Russia. Russia cooperated in a number of special NATO committees and assisted NATO in afghanistan. Russia had an official role in NATO until the first invasion of Ukraine in 2014 when NATO kicked them out. This whole historical emnity between Russia and NATO is a falacy.

When you consider the Russia narrative about NATO "aggression", google what Russian "hybrid warfare" is and then reconsider. When you think you know something about the Russian situation, but then you read the actual facts and it makes no sense (gaslighting)...hybrid warfare.
 
They have no choice. Russia can arm Iran and use them as a proxy as the U.S. has done in Ukraine.

They are willing and able and can quickly threaten US interests in the middle east touching some raw nerves.

Why remove sanctions from Iran at all?
 
NATO was created to confront the Soviet Union and continues to be pointed against Russia.
As of 1991, the Soviet Union didnt exist and Russia was offered membership and signed an agreement to work towards it. Simple facts.
What's in it for Russia to he in NATO? Fight American wars?

France and Germany are both NATO nations. If France attacked Germany, NATO is obliged to defend Germany. If Russia was a member of NATO, NATO would defend them. Not my question to answer, Russia were involced in NATO up until the first Ukraine invasion.

I disagree. Entangled alliances were the root cause of WW1.

I noticed you didn't reply to my post on page 34 referencing the open letter to Clinton in 1997.

Do you have thoughts on the views of those U.S. foreign policy experts?

Not really. FWIW I agree that the eastward push of NATO has antagonised Russia, but IMO its not a good enough reason for what is going on nor do I think its the sole reason.

I also dont think that the motive for NATO moving eastward is motivated by some US world dominance theory. All of those eastern euro nations (Hungary for example) have had decades of Russian oppression and of course what is happening to Ukraine happened to them in 1956 and so they have had a pretty good motivation for NATO membership.
 
@Tiger5150

"Not really. FWIW I agree that the eastward push of NATO has antagonised Russia, but IMO its not a good enough reason for what is going on nor do I think its the sole reason".

I don't know man, [This word has been automatically removed] it
 
They are desperate for the 2.8 million barrels of oil per day.


US are a net exporter of oil.

The US import zero barrels from Iran.

Less than 10% of oil imports are from the Persian Gulf, predominantly Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

 
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