Sack him Now

yeah because we can afford to sack him with all the money we have…..........oh wait

"hmmmm they've sacked 3 coaches in 4 years and 2 of those before their contracts ran out" and won't that just make us look good to potential coaches?

get a grip people.
 
I think we have to look at sacking him. He has been terrible. Is there a get out clause or something.

I would be looking at the options.
 
I really don't care if it is a bad look to continue to sack coaches we have to as he is way out of his depth. Keeping him for the 3 years would be far worse than sacking him now.
 
I am reading these posts thinking I wish that Todd Payten had had better advice than to do what he did last year - might have been a better option as coach , how Kidwell remained on the job as D coach after the performances last year is a mystery to me, he can't phsyc them up to tackle this year either
 
Fix the roster before you sack the coach. No coach could get our mob over the line at present. Not defending Taylor but I am not going to hang him till he gets a half decent roster, and if he fails than its a different matter
 
@supercoach said:
Fix the roster before you sack the coach. No coach could get our mob over the line at present. Not defending Taylor but I am not going to hang him till he gets a half decent roster, and if he fails than its a different matter

Agreed, there are glaring weaknesses in the roster - namely centres and backrow, couple this with two inexperienced halves and it's no great surprise the results aren't coming.

What I'm concerned about is that we haven't made any 2016 signings and that tells me our salary cap is a mess. Unfortunately that situation will take a couple of years to be fixed.

Patience and stick with your club, it will get better.
 
Are those calling for Taylor's head going to chip in to pay him out?

We aren't flush with cash, remember? There will be no pay out.
 
@LCA said:
@ryanda01 said:
OK this was before Droopy's comment… stupid timing...

And, mine. Get rid of this fool NOW or this club is doomed. Members at yesterdays game were furious with Taylor and members bring dollars. Pissed of members won't join again. That's the bottom line.

Anthony Griffin is writing columns for QLD newspapers. Surely he can be lured back to NRL as caretaker coach (with options) to get things on track.

Or anybody other than the joke that is Jason Taylor.

LCA Griffin is football operations manager of the Central Qld Capras who are last on the table and have one win

He also sacked the last head coach and then convinced him to run with the fact he had quit because his wife has breast cancer

They got beaten 68-4 by the PNG Hunters and because they didn't have visas organized had to only take 15 players with them and sign local players on one game contracts to have 17 players

The draw came out 4 months ago

He sounds like the ideal choice as our new head coach 😱pen_mouth:
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Are those calling for Taylor's head going to chip in to pay him out?

We aren't flush with cash, remember? There will be no pay out.

happy would be more than happy to pay him out :wink: :laughing:
 
@stryker said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Seriously, some of you need to have a think before posting. I understand emotions get high, but seriously, we're a broke club, who only just got over paying a previous coach out, (which ended up in the courts btw), now you want to go through that all over again?

We can't afford to sack him, what club can afford to sack a coach 2 and a half yrs out from his contract running out? The clubs hands are tied. The only thing that can be done is someone giving him a massive kick in the arse and telling him he's sending this club backwards at a rapid rate. Too bad the club can't afford a coaching director to come in and give him a hand, cos he's drowning without it.

Agreed. It's such nonsense to read post after post demanding him to be sacked. It won't happen, nor should it. He needs help. His ridiculous system was never going to work. He needs to use the assets he has before freeing up enough money to get rid of them and install first graders in their place. Simple as that.

We agree that he shouldn't be sacked

But the ridiculous system in many parts is being used by most other coaches

We don't have the personnel at this stage because they either aren't up to it or aren't ready

he can't pick players that are even less not up to it , unless he is proving a point that many of the players coming through aren't up to it either
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Are those calling for Taylor's head going to chip in to pay him out?

We aren't flush with cash, remember? There will be no pay out.

Hmmm… Not having the coin to pay him out shouldn't be part of the equation. The courts can deal with that in 12-18 months time.

Keeping a coach who cant do the job will only cause more damage down the track with the loss of key personal, sponsors & gate receipts.

you will lose either way!

I'm happy to stick with Taylor and let him turn this around, but can Taylor let go of his ego and admit whats working and isnt working?
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Are those calling for Taylor's head going to chip in to pay him out?

We aren't flush with cash, remember? There will be no pay out.

Hmmm… Not having the coin to pay him out shouldn't be part of the equation. The courts can deal with that in 12-18 months time.

Keeping a coach who cant do the job will only cause more damage down the track with the loss of key personal, sponsors & gate receipts.

you will lose either way!

I'm happy to stick with Taylor and let him turn this around, but can Taylor let go of his ego and admit whats working and isnt working?

If he is sacked, he will be paid out. Unless there is solid KPI's in his contract we will have to pay him out in full, and likely in advance. If you drag it through the courts, long winded legal costs will probably also be incurred. Even if you do stave it off for 12-18 months, unless you come into money you still have to pay him out at some point.

We cannot keep pissing cash away on coaches when results aren't immediate. I'm not happy at the moment either, and I'm not sure JT is going about things the right way but if we get into a habit of marching coaches two things happen: it becomes a very expensive exercise, and you'll be hard up finding a coach of quality who will want to come here and the cycle will only end up repeating with a string of virgin/poor quality coaches because they will be the only ones who will be desperate enough to want to risk it.
 
The Tigers need to consider sacking Jason Taylor
James Preston Roar Pro - By James Preston, 29 Jun 2015 James Preston is a Roar Pro
I have written several times since Taylor’s appointment last year that he is not the right man to lead the Wests Tigers into a golden new age.
I am acutely aware that as a club the Tigers do need stability and on the surface the last thing they need is a fourth coach in five seasons. But more importantly there is no point persisting with a coach for a further two years simply for the sake of stability.
The Tigers need to admit that they got it wrong and start again. The coaching direction offered to this young group of players over the next 24 months is going to be pivotal to how their careers progress in the long run and that is too important to place into the wrong hands.
For months now Taylor has been skating on thin ice but Sunday’s match against the Panthers must surely be the breaking point for many fans. The game highlighted that Taylor is not an NRL standard coach.
The decision to place a lumbering inexperienced second rower in the form of Kyle Lovett into the centres as cover for the injured Tim Simona, and then watch for 50 minutes as Dean Whare and David Simmons run rampant around him, was completely and utterly inept.
No less than four tries were scored through Lovett’s avenue during his tenure in the centres, including a hat trick to Simmons as time and again Lovett was out paced and poorly positioned.
In isolation that sounds like a personal problem for Lovett, but the key factor here is that playing in this side – the whole 80 minutes for that matter – was former Australian Test left centre Chris Lawrence.
Taylor, in his infinite wisdom, decided that playing a representative centre in a role that he has filled for nine previous seasons was somehow not an option. His excuse in the press conference after the game was just laughable.
"Chris has been doing so well at second row, we felt we had to keep him there as he has just gotten comfortable,” he said.
There are three big problems with this explanation.
Firstly, as mentioned Lawrence is a representative centre, Lovett is a fringe first grade second rower and has been shifted savagely out of position to cover for Simona. One would imagine it to be an uncomfortable situation for Lovett, but no matter because Lawrence was “comfortable”. OK than.
Secondly, Taylor has continuously hammered home his philosophy about defence being his key focus. Simona left the field in the 21st minute. In the 23rd minute the Panthers offered their first left-to-right back line shift of the afternoon – Whare stood up Lovett, squeezed between him and Pat Richards, and popped a ball to Simmons who then found Peter Wallace on the inside for a try.
Two minutes is all it took to prove that there was going to be serious problems with the Tigers’ defensive structure if Lovett remained at left centre. Anyone with half a brain could see that.
Thirdly, the primary role of a coach is to offer a tactical approach by analysing the game in front of them and making changes were necessary in order to attain a winning result. Taylor took 24 points and 51 minutes to identify this issue.
By this point in time the game was gone.
The fact that during his press conference he stated: “people are going to blame that decision for the loss, that is not why we lost” actually serves the exact contradictory purpose. He has self-assigned guilt in the most cowardly of ways.
Being a poor coach is one thing, but not being able to own up to your mistakes when offered the opportunity is a whole other thing. It highlights the lack of leadership Taylor exhibits.
A man with no accountability is not one who can be followed.
Now the reason I am fixating upon the Lovett issue in this article is because it so poignantly highlights Taylor’s deficiencies as a first grade coach. Every single commentator on Channel Nine and the 2GB radio broadcast pointed out several times how problematic this positional decision was.
A quick scroll through Facebook informs me that 99 per cent of the armchair coaches would create more confidence in their decisions than Taylor.
I will again iterate, the key role of a coach on match day is to assess the current climate of the game and make changes accordingly.
It is again worth mentioning that his use of the interchange bench has bordered on criminal by consistently removing Aaron Woods and Martin Taupau (and often also Keith Galloway) from the field all at the same time. He has watched every week as his team lose the ascendancy and the game in the ensuing 20-minute rotation.
Taylor has strangled the life out of this team by turning potentially the most exciting roster in the competition into a boring ineffectual slug fest. Even their captain who bleeds black and gold seems as inspired as a Nickelback song.
The Lovett issue ultimately acts as the straw that broke the camel’s back. Forget rehearsed plays, mental preparation, culture building or improving the Wests Tigers from a brand standpoint, the man presently at the helm fails to even get the fundamentals right. Without a foundation it is impossible to build.
 
This article says it all; one would think a good coach would get the best out of what he has at his disposal, Taylor is actually getting the worst from them. This side is not improving, they are going backwards.

I have refrained from Taylor bashing, but since Canberra game Tigers have been terrible except for a couple of good ambush wins.

I have followed Tigers for over 50 years through thick and thin; for the 1st time in my life I no longer believe in them. The club we have now is not the Tigers I know.
 
@liltiger said:
The way I see it is as the previous posters said the boards hands are tied I can't see them paying Taylor out. It's too expensive and by doing that that's sending a very bad message to the nrl community that which ever coach signs with us their contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. Also we need to remember the nrl stepped in to provide funds and stability by sacking and paying out another coach wether warranted or not it just sends a message we haven't got our act together as an organisation and undermines the stability the club are striving for.
From what iv seen so far of Taylor I'll go on the record and I hope I'm wrong but he is out of his depth. He is nowhere near competent as an nrl coach. The board made the wrong choice last year was our watershed moment to fix the place and change the culture but they hired the wrong coach.
Inexperienced coaches like Taylor are great with teams that have been together awhile and are experienced they pretty much just require a game plan and they're right to go.
Our squad is in development we need a seasoned nrl coach someone who can come along put the squad together and help the youngsters develop to meet their potential. The reason our young halves are struggling isn't because they're no good it's because our current coach hasn't got the know how or ability to help them develop their own form of individual football that we can build the team around hence we have become a team of robots reason being it is a very simple one out style of football that they should manage so they can slot in to the team. It should be the other way around develop our young halves game then slot the team around them. My heart breaks because I firmly believe the tigers are in a golden age in a few years with the right development we very easily could have the next dynasty in the nrl but i just can't see it happening with the coach we've got.

You summed it up well liltiger. Good post!
 
@Tiger Gaz said:
**The Tigers need to consider sacking Jason Taylor**
James Preston Roar Pro - By James Preston, 29 Jun 2015 James Preston is a Roar Pro
I have written several times since Taylor’s appointment last year that he is not the right man to lead the Wests Tigers into a golden new age.
I am acutely aware that as a club the Tigers do need stability and on the surface the last thing they need is a fourth coach in five seasons. But more importantly there is no point persisting with a coach for a further two years simply for the sake of stability.
The Tigers need to admit that they got it wrong and start again. The coaching direction offered to this young group of players over the next 24 months is going to be pivotal to how their careers progress in the long run and that is too important to place into the wrong hands.
For months now Taylor has been skating on thin ice but Sunday’s match against the Panthers must surely be the breaking point for many fans. The game highlighted that Taylor is not an NRL standard coach.
The decision to place a lumbering inexperienced second rower in the form of Kyle Lovett into the centres as cover for the injured Tim Simona, and then watch for 50 minutes as Dean Whare and David Simmons run rampant around him, was completely and utterly inept.
No less than four tries were scored through Lovett’s avenue during his tenure in the centres, including a hat trick to Simmons as time and again Lovett was out paced and poorly positioned.
In isolation that sounds like a personal problem for Lovett, but the key factor here is that playing in this side – the whole 80 minutes for that matter – was former Australian Test left centre Chris Lawrence.
Taylor, in his infinite wisdom, decided that playing a representative centre in a role that he has filled for nine previous seasons was somehow not an option. His excuse in the press conference after the game was just laughable.
"Chris has been doing so well at second row, we felt we had to keep him there as he has just gotten comfortable,” he said.
There are three big problems with this explanation.
Firstly, as mentioned Lawrence is a representative centre, Lovett is a fringe first grade second rower and has been shifted savagely out of position to cover for Simona. One would imagine it to be an uncomfortable situation for Lovett, but no matter because Lawrence was “comfortable”. OK than.
Secondly, Taylor has continuously hammered home his philosophy about defence being his key focus. Simona left the field in the 21st minute. In the 23rd minute the Panthers offered their first left-to-right back line shift of the afternoon – Whare stood up Lovett, squeezed between him and Pat Richards, and popped a ball to Simmons who then found Peter Wallace on the inside for a try.
Two minutes is all it took to prove that there was going to be serious problems with the Tigers’ defensive structure if Lovett remained at left centre. Anyone with half a brain could see that.
Thirdly, the primary role of a coach is to offer a tactical approach by analysing the game in front of them and making changes were necessary in order to attain a winning result. Taylor took 24 points and 51 minutes to identify this issue.
By this point in time the game was gone.
The fact that during his press conference he stated: “people are going to blame that decision for the loss, that is not why we lost” actually serves the exact contradictory purpose. He has self-assigned guilt in the most cowardly of ways.
Being a poor coach is one thing, but not being able to own up to your mistakes when offered the opportunity is a whole other thing. It highlights the lack of leadership Taylor exhibits.
A man with no accountability is not one who can be followed.
Now the reason I am fixating upon the Lovett issue in this article is because it so poignantly highlights Taylor’s deficiencies as a first grade coach. Every single commentator on Channel Nine and the 2GB radio broadcast pointed out several times how problematic this positional decision was.
A quick scroll through Facebook informs me that 99 per cent of the armchair coaches would create more confidence in their decisions than Taylor.
I will again iterate, the key role of a coach on match day is to assess the current climate of the game and make changes accordingly.
It is again worth mentioning that his use of the interchange bench has bordered on criminal by consistently removing Aaron Woods and Martin Taupau (and often also Keith Galloway) from the field all at the same time. He has watched every week as his team lose the ascendancy and the game in the ensuing 20-minute rotation.
Taylor has strangled the life out of this team by turning potentially the most exciting roster in the competition into a boring ineffectual slug fest. Even their captain who bleeds black and gold seems as inspired as a Nickelback song.
The Lovett issue ultimately acts as the straw that broke the camel’s back. Forget rehearsed plays, mental preparation, culture building or improving the Wests Tigers from a brand standpoint, the man presently at the helm fails to even get the fundamentals right. Without a foundation it is impossible to build.

Matches what im seeing on the forum or Facebook as well.

There have been a few like myself who started to see the cracks in this coach earlier in the year.This has built to the point now where all but the deranged or childishly stubborn can see he is not the right fit for this football club.

Its no longer a matter of him not getting the best out of the squad its gotten to the point the players reached under Potter where they just arent responding.

The players have given up on the guy.

Its about time the board stepped in here.
 
A coach really is as good as his players do u think Robinson would of won the comp coaching the Tigers. You can tell Taylor is frustrated & pissed off but he has to do the best he can with the cattle we have. Next year will be the same unfortunately but that will be another year for these young kids. Its a battle for the spoon now
 
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