Sack the Board, fire Pascoe

LukeyTuiaki

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I have dreams that a Crowe/Holmes a Court situation arises and a cashed up mega fan buys Wests Ashfield’s shares in the club. They’d have pay 10 times the value to get it from black and white’s cold dead hand though and still then it will take a while to see success but least we wouldn’t have the absolute current incompetence leading the club at the moment. Sick of the media loving lawyer chair, sick of the podcaster leading the way and his constant leaks to Rupert’s lot. I personally can’t see Sheens revolutionising the way the team plays but happy for him to concentrate on what he was originally brought in to do and that was to strengthen the pathways. Anyway, a man can dream…
 
I have dreams that a Crowe/Holmes a Court situation arises and a cashed up mega fan buys Wests Ashfield’s shares in the club. They’d have pay 10 times the value to get it from black and white’s cold dead hand though and still then it will take a while to see success but least we wouldn’t have the absolute current incompetence leading the club at the moment. Sick of the media loving lawyer chair, sick of the podcaster leading the way and his constant leaks to Rupert’s lot. I personally can’t see Sheens revolutionising the way the team plays but happy for him to concentrate on what he was originally brought in to do and that was to strengthen the pathways. Anyway, a man can dream…
Love it. Be careful though, the media loving Chair will threaten to sue.
 

Tetchy Tim Sheens is not the problem in Tiger Town​

Andrew Webster

A couple of years ago, I phoned a prominent Wests Tigers official before writing a column in support of coach Michael Maguire, who was getting whacked from so many directions he was starting to resemble a tiger-shaped piñata.

Maguire’s a good man and coach who didn’t deserve to be wearing the blame for all the Tigers’ ills, I figured.
“I don’t care what you write,” the official said. “As long as you look after me.”

That pretty much captures the dramas over the last decade at the Tigers, where self-preservation is valued above success; where “winning the narrative” is regarded above systemic change; where the in-house barber is the most-publicised feature of the new $78 million centre of excellence.

The Tigers eventually sacked Maguire and ushered in a coaching dream team of club legends: Tim Sheens, Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.
The crucible of this idea — or at least bringing back Sheens — was a lunch at which Sheens, chairman Lee Hagipantelis and chief executive Justin Pascoe were present, and a News Corp columnist floated the possibility.
And then, like magic, poof! — it happened. You couldn’t make this stuff up, could you?

The Tigers’ 26-22 loss to Canterbury in sweltering conditions at Belmore on Sunday afternoon leaves them in a familiar position: winless and rooted to the bottom of the ladder.
But it’s early days and you can only assume Sheens will be afforded greater respect, support and patience than Maguire, who had the drums beating for his sacking in the background for most of his tenure.

Tigers management and a section of their fans believe the rugby league media is obsessed with their demise. In some respects, they are right. Journalists love a demise, unless it’s their own.
Yet much of the noise about the Tigers often starts from within the club itself, including news — twice — that Maguire was about to be sacked.

The tone of rugby league coverage has changed dramatically since Sheens last coached in the NRL, in 2012, mostly in size and volume of online stories - and you can tell he is becoming frustrated.
He couldn’t understand how the relatively minor incident involving Tommy Talau, David Klemmer and former Tigers player Jackson Hastings turned into an enduring saga for much of last week. Imagine if punches had been thrown?

Sheens had even less time for straightforward questions about the backline reshuffle midway through the second half against the Bulldogs in which five-eighth Adam Doueihi was moved to fullback and Brandon Wakeham into the halves alongside Luke Brooks.
The reshuffle sparked a Tigers comeback after they had looked legless for most of the match.

“No, I don’t want to make any call on that,” Sheens said. Asked later if the move was pre-planned, he said: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m not going to justify what I did.”
On face value, his tetchy response suggested he was under pressure after a winless start. In reality, it was a coach being loyal to his players: he hadn’t yet spoken to those involved and wasn’t going to start the discussion in the press. Maybe he should’ve said that.

Nevertheless, you don’t have to be the game’s greatest thinker to understand the positional changes, with the Tigers trailing 20-6, were born out of pure frustration.
Doueihi and Brooks again looked like strangers who have never met hooker Api Koroisau, who has become the focal point of the Tigers’ attack.
Koroisau’s frustration in the first three matches, including the season opener when Sheens used him off the bench, has been there for all to see. I’m expecting a James Harden-like eye roll at any moment.
Against the Bulldogs, he was at his scheming best, running, faking, double-pumping. The only problem was none of his teammates supported him.

When they did, it turned to porridge. In the second half, Koroisau scooped up the ball at dummy half, scooted down the short side and passed to Brooks, who subsequently threw the ball behind Asu Kepaoa.
The Tigers’ biggest job is getting Brooks to find his mojo again — he was the Dally M halfback of the year in 2018 — but it’s going to take time. When Wakeham came on, and started playing more direct, Brooks suddenly joined the party.

You won’t hear Sheens making excuses about injuries or players coming back to training late because of World Cup duties late last year.

You won’t hear him talking about the lack of depth in the back row, where they are missing Isaiah Papali’i through suspension and relying on Caspar-white Englishman John Bateman to eventually find his feet.
Sheens’ old sparring partner, Wayne Bennett, 73, has the Dolphins humming atop the NRL ladder with an entirely new side that hadn’t met each other until November 1 last year.

Sheens has been around long enough to know seasons can start slowly and finish magnificently. In 2005, the Tigers lost five of their first nine matches, including four straight, before winning the competition.

This Tigers team isn’t in the same suburb as that one. It might never be.

But Sheens, Marshall and Farah deserve time to turn the beat around. The outside noise will always be there, especially around the Tigers.

The question is whether those who run the club can hold their nerve — and shut their mouths.
 
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This Dane Eldridge News.co.au article had me in stitches. 😂


Grotesquely cruel’: Embarrassing record hapless NRL club faces


By following last year’s wooden spoon with three straight defeats to begin 2023, the Wests Tigers could be the first team in history to finish last and still go backwards.


By following last year’s wooden spoon with three straight defeats to begin 2023, the Wests Tigers could be the first team in history to finish last and still go backwards.


In fact, the beleaguered joint venture has plunged so low after Sunday’s loss to the Bulldogs that even their hopes and aspirations have become near-subterranean.


The 26-22 defeat at Belmore was more classic Tigers piecemeal, with Tim Sheens’ side spending 65 minutes in grievous constipation before cruelly instilling hope with a four minute burst almost as blinding as John Bateman’s incandescent legs.


With the loss further burying the year as another write-off, the club and its plucky fans have been left with nothing to do but ache again for their famous glory days.


We all know this magic era they long for; it’s the most treasured in Tiger Town history, a time when the serotonin wasn’t flooded in tears and life had meaning:


It’s when they were a ninth-placed meme.


For those unaware, the 2016-2019 era at Wests was renowned for edging inches short of September, with the club finishing the season ninth three out of the four years. It was a magnificent time, with supporters emboldened by the mere sniff of semi-finals and players with the adrenaline of booking-in Bali Mad Mondays later than June.


Historians have rated the Ninth Years almost as ‘Peak Tigers’ as Robbie Farah drinking a tinnie on the Leichhardt Oval scoreboard after falling out with the coach. It was undeserved, it was grotesquely cruel, and it endlessly fuelled the internet — and the Tigers would give anything to have it back.


After everything that’s been inflicted on this team, you can’t blame them for nostalgically longing for the sweet sensation of being mocked for missing finals. After all, going viral for a premature evacuation is heaps better than another spoon and contract payout.


Better yet, ninth place is way more palatable than referencing the 2005 premiership. Not only are Tigers fans weakened by this albatross, the underwhelming second coming of Sheens — and the promise of Benji Marshall taking the job in 2025 — means we can’t be sure anymore this fairytale isn’t an anthropological hoax like Bigfoot or Darren Lockyer’s hair.


However, with all due respect to the 72 year old coach, his struggles are hardly a surprise considering the club’s off-season recruits.


With Api Koroisau’s viral pfffffting of the club, Isaiah Papali’i’ agitating to renege and the returning David Nofoaluma making no secret of his longing for the Melbourne Storm, Sheens has been tasked with inspiring a team full of blokes who’d rather be somewhere else.


Even with the NRL generously front-loading home games at Fortress Leichhardt — once an imposing cauldron of bottlenecks now easily escapable thanks to the en masse departure after 60 minutes – the joint venture has failed to capitalise.


It proves once again that much like Parramatta, Gold Coast and The Bunker, the Wests Tigers are one of those places that can’t have nice things. It’s no wonder they’re yearning for their cruel ‘happy place.’
 

Tetchy Tim Sheens is not the problem in Tiger Town​

Andrew Webster

A couple of years ago, I phoned a prominent Wests Tigers official before writing a column in support of coach Michael Maguire, who was getting whacked from so many directions he was starting to resemble a tiger-shaped piñata.

Maguire’s a good man and coach who didn’t deserve to be wearing the blame for all the Tigers’ ills, I figured.
“I don’t care what you write,” the official said. “As long as you look after me.”

That pretty much captures the dramas over the last decade at the Tigers, where self-preservation is valued above success; where “winning the narrative” is regarded above systemic change; where the in-house barber is the most-publicised feature of the new $78 million centre of excellence.

The Tigers eventually sacked Maguire and ushered in a coaching dream team of club legends: Tim Sheens, Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.
The crucible of this idea — or at least bringing back Sheens — was a lunch at which Sheens, chairman Lee Hagipantelis and chief executive Justin Pascoe were present, and a News Corp columnist floated the possibility.
And then, like magic, poof! — it happened. You couldn’t make this stuff up, could you?

The Tigers’ 26-22 loss to Canterbury in sweltering conditions at Belmore on Sunday afternoon leaves them in a familiar position: winless and rooted to the bottom of the ladder.
But it’s early days and you can only assume Sheens will be afforded greater respect, support and patience than Maguire, who had the drums beating for his sacking in the background for most of his tenure.

Tigers management and a section of their fans believe the rugby league media is obsessed with their demise. In some respects, they are right. Journalists love a demise, unless it’s their own.
Yet much of the noise about the Tigers often starts from within the club itself, including news — twice — that Maguire was about to be sacked.

The tone of rugby league coverage has changed dramatically since Sheens last coached in the NRL, in 2012, mostly in size and volume of online stories - and you can tell he is becoming frustrated.
He couldn’t understand how the relatively minor incident involving Tommy Talau, David Klemmer and former Tigers player Jackson Hastings turned into an enduring saga for much of last week. Imagine if punches had been thrown?

Sheens had even less time for straightforward questions about the backline reshuffle midway through the second half against the Bulldogs in which five-eighth Adam Doueihi was moved to fullback and Brandon Wakeham into the halves alongside Luke Brooks.
The reshuffle sparked a Tigers comeback after they had looked legless for most of the match.

“No, I don’t want to make any call on that,” Sheens said. Asked later if the move was pre-planned, he said: “I don’t want to talk about it. I’m not going to justify what I did.”
On face value, his tetchy response suggested he was under pressure after a winless start. In reality, it was a coach being loyal to his players: he hadn’t yet spoken to those involved and wasn’t going to start the discussion in the press. Maybe he should’ve said that.

Nevertheless, you don’t have to be the game’s greatest thinker to understand the positional changes, with the Tigers trailing 20-6, were born out of pure frustration.
Doueihi and Brooks again looked like strangers who have never met hooker Api Koroisau, who has become the focal point of the Tigers’ attack.
Koroisau’s frustration in the first three matches, including the season opener when Sheens used him off the bench, has been there for all to see. I’m expecting a James Harden-like eye roll at any moment.
Against the Bulldogs, he was at his scheming best, running, faking, double-pumping. The only problem was none of his teammates supported him.

When they did, it turned to porridge. In the second half, Koroisau scooped up the ball at dummy half, scooted down the short side and passed to Brooks, who subsequently threw the ball behind Asu Kepaoa.
The Tigers’ biggest job is getting Brooks to find his mojo again — he was the Dally M halfback of the year in 2018 — but it’s going to take time. When Wakeham came on, and started playing more direct, Brooks suddenly joined the party.

You won’t hear Sheens making excuses about injuries or players coming back to training late because of World Cup duties late last year.

You won’t hear him talking about the lack of depth in the back row, where they are missing Isaiah Papali’i through suspension and relying on Caspar-white Englishman John Bateman to eventually find his feet.
Sheens’ old sparring partner, Wayne Bennett, 73, has the Dolphins humming atop the NRL ladder with an entirely new side that hadn’t met each other until November 1 last year.

Sheens has been around long enough to know seasons can start slowly and finish magnificently. In 2005, the Tigers lost five of their first nine matches, including four straight, before winning the competition.

This Tigers team isn’t in the same suburb as that one. It might never be.

But Sheens, Marshall and Farah deserve time to turn the beat around. The outside noise will always be there, especially around the Tigers.

The question is whether those who run the club can hold their nerve — and shut their mouths.
For those of us hoping for a miracle...remember in 2005 after round 5 we were travelling in the top 4.
 
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