Same sex marriage debate...

ARU just keeps scoring own goals! They announce their support for SSM and then their best player tweets that he loves and respects everyone but personally cannot support SSM.
 
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ARU just keeps scoring own goals! They announce their support for SSM and then their best player tweets that he loves and respects everyone but personally cannot support SSM.
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Serves them right for picking sides. Sporting codes have no business publicly choosing sides on controversial subjects.
 
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I can understand you not mentioning the Bible as it is very embarrassing, for example, not letting a witch to live, homosexuality is an abomination. So the Bible can form the background of people's thinking even if they don't quote it. The Bible is like the devil whispering evil things in your ear.

Your getting off topic with your bigotted rantings … it was only a matter of time before you couldn't contain yourself any longer.

As you should know, being the Biblical expert you are, the Holy Bible is the literature that forms the cornerstone of Western Civilization, the most free and compassionate of civilisations to ever exist in all of humanity. So you're more than a little off in your analysis.

Its funny you mention evil, do you believe that evil exists? It seems you do, because you have mentioned it in your response.

I ask because good, evil and morality itself cannot exist in naturalist/atheist philosophy. Nearly all intellectual atheists admit this ... yet i can bet my last dollar that you cannot explain evil without putting God firmly in the paradigm.

Probably a good idea not to start intellectual fights that you have no chance in hell of winning.
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The Bible was used to it's utmost to keep civilisation brutal and stupid. It was used to justify slavery, to justify killing witches, to impede science, to corrupt philosophy, to hoodwink the ignorant, to scorn homosexuality, to prevent women from obtaining equality etc. etc..

I was obviously using the evil word in an everyday sense and you are only creating a false philosophical position in an attempt to obfuscate.

You cannot mention intellectualism and the Bible in the same breath - there are the ultimate contradiction.
 
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The alliance between the left and islam has always puzzled me …
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It shouldn't. Despite many left leaning people considering themselves libertarian, the far left is deeply totalitarian. They rely on blind followers who believe the far left's think-of-the-children/poor people environment/gays/etc shtick to enact their ideology.

They think of Muslims as useful idiots, but they underestimate them at their peril. They've been doing Orwellianism for centuries before it ever occurred to the far left.
 
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I can understand you not mentioning the Bible as it is very embarrassing, for example, not letting a witch to live, homosexuality is an abomination. So the Bible can form the background of people's thinking even if they don't quote it. The Bible is like the devil whispering evil things in your ear.

Your getting off topic with your bigotted rantings … it was only a matter of time before you couldn't contain yourself any longer.

As you should know, being the Biblical expert you are, the Holy Bible is the literature that forms the cornerstone of Western Civilization, the most free and compassionate of civilisations to ever exist in all of humanity. So you're more than a little off in your analysis.

Its funny you mention evil, do you believe that evil exists? It seems you do, because you have mentioned it in your response.

I ask because good, evil and morality itself cannot exist in naturalist/atheist philosophy. Nearly all intellectual atheists admit this ... yet i can bet my last dollar that you cannot explain evil without putting God firmly in the paradigm.

Probably a good idea not to start intellectual fights that you have no chance in hell of winning.

The Bible was used to it's utmost to keep civilisation brutal and stupid. It was used to justify slavery, to justify killing witches, to impede science, to corrupt philosophy, to hoodwink the ignorant, to scorn homosexuality, to prevent women from obtaining equality etc. etc..

I was obviously using the evil word in an everyday sense and you are only creating a false philosophical position in an attempt to obfuscate.

You cannot mention intellectualism and the Bible in the same breath - there are the ultimate contradiction.
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I cant understand your argument BBF,the Bible is in millions of households,its in every Hotel room I have stayed in…there must be something to its teachings..you have your singular opinion because you don't agree with its teachings and verse,mankind has refered to the bible for centuries...

Heres something for you.....AND THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH...
 
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Well guys this has been a very good discussion ….Some very insightful posts and opinions on this issue...the topic has been discussed civilly and everyone should be congratulated on their behavior while contributing...

I will vote on how I feel and think about SSM...I won't let adverts or peer pressure influence my vote. ...
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I agree, too quiet.
Let's invite Seinfield back for a guest appearance, can you imagine how much he'd
love this topic lol.
 
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The Bible was used to it's utmost to keep civilisation brutal and stupid. It was used to justify slavery, to justify killing witches, to impede science, to corrupt philosophy, to hoodwink the ignorant, to scorn homosexuality, to prevent women from obtaining equality etc. etc..

I was obviously using the evil word in an everyday sense and you are only creating a false philosophical position in an attempt to obfuscate.

You cannot mention intellectualism and the Bible in the same breath - there are the ultimate contradiction.
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I cant understand your argument BBF,the Bible is in millions of households,its in every Hotel room I have stayed in…there must be something to its teachings..you have your singular opinion because you don't agree with its teachings and verse,mankind has refered to the bible for centuries...

Heres something for you.....AND THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH...

The meek only inherit the earth by fighting very hard for it, don't you remember that the Liberal Party (and it's predecessors) had opposed every wage rise since Federation. In the Philippines union officials and SJW still get knocked off when they are getting somewhere. And you could not get a more Christian and Catholic country then what they are! They have churches full of Bibles on every corner.

Mankind has referred to it for all the wrong reasons. To suppress, to confuse etc. etc.. But yes there is some good in it but often it is a poor and corrupted imitation of an earlier more consistent, cogent and intellectual philosophy that was pre-Judeo/Christian. Like we add salt and pepper on our tucker the Bible authors added God to take credit. Suggested reading Bertrand Russell's A History Of Western Philosophy.

Based on Biblical thinking I was taught that the stars were holes in the floor of Heaven - that is just an example of it's corruptive influences. I used to think that when it rained God was hosing down his verandah.
 
I already thought sms was legal…

But I never liked this digital age and wish we could go back.
 
Gee guys I only wanted opinions on SSM for the yes or no vote,,,We have copped Marxism,Liberaltarism,Religious arguments and the Bible..this has been one of the best threads since the inception of the WTs…

However it has been a great discussion with many points of view...how boring would it be if we all had the same opinion...

I love starting these threads because I have been known to be one of the most erratic people in life ..
""BUT WHO CARES "" I'm me and what you see is what you get...love you all...
 
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Gee guys I only wanted opinions on SSM for the yes or no vote,,,We have copped Marxism,Liberaltarism,Religious arguments and the Bible..this has been one of the best threads since the inception of the WTs…

However it has been a great discussion with many points of view...how boring would it be if we all had the same opinion...

I love starting these threads because I have been known to be one of the most erratic people in life ..
""BUT WHO CARES "" I'm me and what you see is what you get...love you all...
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Love you too True Tiger! Let's get married. Wait…. can we do that?
 
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Andrew Webster just outed himself on 360 - to a chorus of how brave he was LMAO

Late to the party Stryker, he was out about 5 years ago old mate.
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Yeah I'm a bit late too..missed the memo.
But I always thought he had a bit of a gay look./sound about him
 
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I can understand you not mentioning the Bible as it is very embarrassing, for example, not letting a witch to live, homosexuality is an abomination. So the Bible can form the background of people's thinking even if they don't quote it. The Bible is like the devil whispering evil things in your ear.

Your getting off topic with your bigotted rantings … it was only a matter of time before you couldn't contain yourself any longer.

As you should know, being the Biblical expert you are, the Holy Bible is the literature that forms the cornerstone of Western Civilization, the most free and compassionate of civilisations to ever exist in all of humanity. So you're more than a little off in your analysis.

Its funny you mention evil, do you believe that evil exists? It seems you do, because you have mentioned it in your response.

I ask because good, evil and morality itself cannot exist in naturalist/atheist philosophy. Nearly all intellectual atheists admit this ... yet i can bet my last dollar that you cannot explain evil without putting God firmly in the paradigm.

Probably a good idea not to start intellectual fights that you have no chance in hell of winning.

The Bible was used to it's utmost to keep civilisation brutal and stupid. It was used to justify slavery, to justify killing witches, to impede science, to corrupt philosophy, to hoodwink the ignorant, to scorn homosexuality, to prevent women from obtaining equality etc. etc..

I was obviously using the evil word in an everyday sense and you are only creating a false philosophical position in an attempt to obfuscate.

You cannot mention intellectualism and the Bible in the same breath - there are the ultimate contradiction.
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Umm… basically no to everything you have just written.

It was used to abolish Slavery, it was used as the very basis for scientific reasoning, and by the way the word "witch" doesn't even appear in the original Hebrew Bible.

You have literally stuck out on every point. As The Don would say ... Sad !

Now back to my question, which you unsuccessfully tried to skirt around. Do you believe that such thing as 'Evil' exists?
 
You know what Byron, your de-railing this thread with your bigotted stupidity.

Start a new thread if you wish to discuss the Bible, and i will gladly take you to school.
 
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