hammertime
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The question for me is does that mean that Moltz gets the number 1 over Teddy!!!!??? God forbid.
Sheens poised to hand ageing Anasta challenge and a half Re
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foreveratiger
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Anasta = football brain,experience,calmness and leadership qualities . Hopefully Anasta will stop us playing erratic and teach the side about building pressure kicking to the corners , repeat sets, instead of going for the miracle plays on the 5th tackle. Marshall is wearing very thin with me , can't lead a side if Farrah is not there.
That's what trial games are for to see if such method will work, time will tell.
That's what trial games are for to see if such method will work, time will tell.
I hope sheens isn;t here to implement this plan but whoever is, with the roster we have, its the right thing to do.
Benji and Robbie both need a calm head around when things get heated as both are to prone to have brain explosions. Also, our kicking game is currently pretty close to the worst in the comp.
If Anasta at 7 does nothing else than kick for field position and stop our two creative players having brain explosions then this move will be a complete success.
It will be even better if he can tackle (which he can) and can order the forwards and defensive line around with a bit of on-field talk (which he can).
He'll get the odd try and line break assist and actually can run a decent line himself which is a bonus.
He'll also give Miller (who appears to be staying and to be in the long term plans) and the two real young kids another year or maybe 2 to develop.
And if we're really lucky he'll mean that moltzen never gets another game in firsts.
Benji and Robbie both need a calm head around when things get heated as both are to prone to have brain explosions. Also, our kicking game is currently pretty close to the worst in the comp.
If Anasta at 7 does nothing else than kick for field position and stop our two creative players having brain explosions then this move will be a complete success.
It will be even better if he can tackle (which he can) and can order the forwards and defensive line around with a bit of on-field talk (which he can).
He'll get the odd try and line break assist and actually can run a decent line himself which is a bonus.
He'll also give Miller (who appears to be staying and to be in the long term plans) and the two real young kids another year or maybe 2 to develop.
And if we're really lucky he'll mean that moltzen never gets another game in firsts.
Look I agree that it leaves Farah and Marshall in their best positions. I agree with the theory behind having a calming influence. However you guys keep banging on about experience. Anasta has zero experience at halfback. What makes people think he is going to be calm and in control there?? How can anyone comare him Kimmorley who has a halfback his whole career?
Joel Helmes
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I think Anasta will make a positive contribution but how can Sheens, after 40+ years of experience in the game, still believe a half-back can be manufactured?
Half-back is a specialised position.
Half-back is a specialised position.
milford_magic
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Don't see whats so bad about this.
Even if Anasta doesn't make a line break all year, he will bring us a kicking game which we so badly missed. Do people not realise the importance of a kicking game? Several clubs have limited attack but they get down into the opposition 20m and someone puts a good cross field bomb and they score.
We have had ample opportunities the last two weeks vs the roosters and storm early but were let down by worthless and pointless kicks. Its a big straw to pull at, but who knows, we score early in those games and it could all go very different.
I am sick to death of seeing pathetic last tackle options which either see the ball role dead or role straight to the winger who is back there waiting for the short grubber as we have done the same play for 4 years and they know its coming.
Theres no reason Anasta couldn't be a Ben Hornby or to a MUCH lesser extent do a similar role to Cronk. To compare him to Morris is an insult to his ability.
Even if Anasta doesn't make a line break all year, he will bring us a kicking game which we so badly missed. Do people not realise the importance of a kicking game? Several clubs have limited attack but they get down into the opposition 20m and someone puts a good cross field bomb and they score.
We have had ample opportunities the last two weeks vs the roosters and storm early but were let down by worthless and pointless kicks. Its a big straw to pull at, but who knows, we score early in those games and it could all go very different.
I am sick to death of seeing pathetic last tackle options which either see the ball role dead or role straight to the winger who is back there waiting for the short grubber as we have done the same play for 4 years and they know its coming.
Theres no reason Anasta couldn't be a Ben Hornby or to a MUCH lesser extent do a similar role to Cronk. To compare him to Morris is an insult to his ability.
innsaneink
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@supercoach said:
Thats my question….whos call was it?
Anasta's been banging on the last 2 years about only playing halves, he dont want to play anywhere else....Roosters get jack of that, sign Maloney to partner Pearce...Anasta on the outer, signs with us and viola!....he's a halfback!!
Whos running this circus, who's in charge, who's making the decisions.....ONE game at halfback for a 30yo!
@innsaneink said:
Love it !!!!
In saying that I actually like the idea of Anasta at 7 .
Let the guy run the show ( -along with Robbie) and allow Benji to recapture his carefree youth. Marshall desperately needs to be able to shrug off the responsibility of structure and just PLAY.
By contrast Braith is ordered and measured in everything he does … I think the combination has the potential to be a masterstroke.
Takes me back to the old Lidcombe days when crazy Roy shifted the average back rower John Ribot de Bresac out onto the wing ... The Wests Fibro forum went into a meltdown of incredulity (Magpies were years ahead of their time - we first had the Internet out at Lidcombe around 1974 from memory) ... Of course the rest is history ...
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Yeah the bludger chased coin and signed with Manly before finding a suit, hopping into Murdochs pocket and ripping the game in two.
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Not sure if this will work out because I think young Sirro will work his way back into FG next season, and I don't think he'll be ready for the backrow just yet.
Benji is definitely more dangerous at 6 than at 7, which saw his running game almost disappear, but will Sheens shift Benji back to 7 when young Sirro is match fit? Not sure how that will play out because I can't see Sirro playing 7\. If Miller stays, then he'll be good for depth in the halves, but the most important thing for next year is to try and stick to the same halves pairing as best as possible.
Sheens and various Tigers players have bemoaned the fact that there has been too much changing in the 6 and 7 this year to make a cohesive unit, so Sheens better not stuff the spine around next year like he did this year, or we'll be no chance yet again.
Options:
1\. Tedesco
6\. Marshall
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
1\. Tedesco
6\. Sironen
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
1\. Tedesco
6\. Anasta
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Tedesco
6\. Sironen
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Marshall
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Anasta
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Sironen
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Sironen
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
That's 8 different 'spines' without even thinking…
Benji is definitely more dangerous at 6 than at 7, which saw his running game almost disappear, but will Sheens shift Benji back to 7 when young Sirro is match fit? Not sure how that will play out because I can't see Sirro playing 7\. If Miller stays, then he'll be good for depth in the halves, but the most important thing for next year is to try and stick to the same halves pairing as best as possible.
Sheens and various Tigers players have bemoaned the fact that there has been too much changing in the 6 and 7 this year to make a cohesive unit, so Sheens better not stuff the spine around next year like he did this year, or we'll be no chance yet again.
Options:
1\. Tedesco
6\. Marshall
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
1\. Tedesco
6\. Sironen
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
1\. Tedesco
6\. Anasta
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Tedesco
6\. Sironen
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Marshall
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Anasta
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Sironen
7\. Marshall
9\. Farah
1\. Moltzen
6\. Sironen
7\. Anasta
9\. Farah
That's 8 different 'spines' without even thinking…
AmericanHistoryX
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Now you're starting to think like Tim Sheens Willow. The old man is getting to you.
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I'm interested to see how Anasta goes at half and Benji at 5/8 during the trials. It will also be interesting to see what happens with Moltzen with the return of Ted although he could probably end up in the 20's to start with until Moltzen continues to have shockers and the pressure forces Sheens to move him.
851
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Sirro could play right centre,I think a couple of years there before heading to the forwards would work,who knows he may star there and stay at centre.
AmericanHistoryX
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@851 said:
Is Sirro fast enough for centre? Terry Hill was big but had speed to boot.
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Geez, it's a tough one
The talk has been about our failings and sheens under pressure and now we are considering another gamble?
Isn't the time for big gambles gone and this is why we need a new coach ? Unless we are gonna do this and if we fail to make the 8 in 2013 its bye bye.. To now realise Benji should stay at 6 when I think majority realized this already… It's crazy really when surely
We would have been no worse then putting Miller or moltZen at 7 for extended period.
Having said all that, the worry is if Anasta is up to it as at least benji is back to where he should be... We should improve with anastas Long kicking game... But for 30 or 31 year old to play at 7 suddenly is a worry... If Miller is in our plans still then why don't we give him extended go...we did this with lui and look at 2010 and 2011 with a good halfback. Admittedly lui was a special talent and maybe miller has a longer way to go.
A long off season ahead and seemingly a lot can happen but we news to sort and settle and have plan b for injuries instead of shuffling the decks and weakening 5 positions for 1 position..
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The talk has been about our failings and sheens under pressure and now we are considering another gamble?
Isn't the time for big gambles gone and this is why we need a new coach ? Unless we are gonna do this and if we fail to make the 8 in 2013 its bye bye.. To now realise Benji should stay at 6 when I think majority realized this already… It's crazy really when surely
We would have been no worse then putting Miller or moltZen at 7 for extended period.
Having said all that, the worry is if Anasta is up to it as at least benji is back to where he should be... We should improve with anastas Long kicking game... But for 30 or 31 year old to play at 7 suddenly is a worry... If Miller is in our plans still then why don't we give him extended go...we did this with lui and look at 2010 and 2011 with a good halfback. Admittedly lui was a special talent and maybe miller has a longer way to go.
A long off season ahead and seemingly a lot can happen but we news to sort and settle and have plan b for injuries instead of shuffling the decks and weakening 5 positions for 1 position..
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tiger_rocket
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I think Sirro will play centre and the other thing is this change for Anasta is his last chance to win a comp and I think he will give it everything particularly if we have an unusual good start to the season which surely sheens needs if he is to make it through the year.
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tig_prmz
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aaah fook me dead, the off season has JUST started and all of a sudden im buying into the "oh great an organising half, can kick, can tackle, experienced and mature, now we only need to work on defense and attitude and we can win the comp" crap. hate this tiger blood running through me
next thing you know, have high hopes for 2013, get miserable mid season, sheens: "judge us at the end of the season".. come 9th and sheens blames injuries, rep season and what not
srsly fooac this shiz
just get rid of him, buy some mongrel props, get some depth in key area, show us you can give 100% 24 games a season… how bloody hard is it??????
next thing you know, have high hopes for 2013, get miserable mid season, sheens: "judge us at the end of the season".. come 9th and sheens blames injuries, rep season and what not
srsly fooac this shiz
just get rid of him, buy some mongrel props, get some depth in key area, show us you can give 100% 24 games a season… how bloody hard is it??????
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