Sheens

[The_Patriot]

#stopthebullying

 

[Spud]

For the past decade the perpetrators
(the media + player managers) have undoubtably been delibarately and unfairly attacking the **WT** with exagerated stories, bias, and rumours. They were intent on beating the WT to death.

What the perpetrators should now realise is that the **WT** have completed the assembling of their professional staff with the arrival of our commander-in-chief Sheenious, the **WT** are now more than capable of opposing the unjust attacks by these perpetrators.

The sleeping giant is awakening.

Good post.
You remind me of someone on another site. Are you the Silverdale Phantom per chance?

 

[FinestTigers]

For the past decade the perpetrators
(the media + player managers) have undoubtably been delibarately and unfairly attacking the **WT** with exagerated stories, bias, and rumours. They were intent on beating the WT to death.

What the perpetrators should now realise is that the **WT** have completed the assembling of their professional staff with the arrival of our commander-in-chief Sheenious, the **WT** are now more than capable of opposing the unjust attacks by these perpetrators.

The sleeping giant is awakening.

Good post.
You remind me of someone on another site. Are you the Silverdale Phantom per chance?

Don't know the phantom or the site your refering to mate, but there are no illusions here,
You know where he is, so ask him to come here he sounds like an okay person. ?

 

[Tigerwould]

For the past decade the perpetrators
(the media + player managers) have undoubtably been delibarately and unfairly attacking the **WT** with exagerated stories, bias, and rumours. They were intent on beating the WT to death.

What the perpetrators should now realise is that the **WT** have completed the assembling of their professional staff with the arrival of our commander-in-chief Sheenious, the **WT** are now more than capable of opposing the unjust attacks by these perpetrators.

The sleeping giant is awakening.

Good post.
You remind me of someone on another site. Are you the Silverdale Phantom per chance?

Don't know the phantom or the site your refering to mate, but there are no illusions here,
You know where he is, so ask him to come here he sounds like an okay person. ?

You never find the Phantom, he finds you.
Could be in the skull cave with Devil or around at Diana’s
He’s generally pretty hard to find. When Phantom moves, time stands still.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]


 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Dean Ritchie hiding in a hedge with a camera is disconcerting ..

 

[hank37w]

He's actually Agent 13 hiding in that fire hydrant.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

For the past decade the perpetrators
(the media + player managers) have undoubtably been delibarately and unfairly attacking the **WT** with exagerated stories, bias, and rumours. They were intent on beating the WT to death.

What the perpetrators should now realise is that the **WT** have completed the assembling of their professional staff with the arrival of our commander-in-chief Sheenious, the **WT** are now more than capable of opposing the unjust attacks by these perpetrators.

The sleeping giant is awakening.

We have deserved everything with have copped. Nothing unfair about it. And I hate to tell you a few of the clowns are still around.

 

[TigerWest]

**EXCLUSIVE: Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah hoses down fears of Michael Maguire -Tim Sheens partnership not working out**
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/2022-wests-tigers-tim-sheens-appointment-michael-maguire-robbie-farah-exclusive/ca98a6e8-ea21-4ee4-ac5b-5e921d4c8cc8

Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah has shot down fears of coach Michael Maguire feeling at unease over greater responsibility being handed to Tim Sheens at the embattled club.

The man who led a youthful Tigers outfit to the 2005 NRL premiership returned to the club in June as head of football performance, before taking on the role of director of coaching in September amid the club's tumultuous internal review.

The appointment led Michael Chammas of The Sydney Morning Herald to ask rugby league guru Phil Gould how Maguire would feel about it.

"How do you take it as coach... if they are bringing in someone over the top of you, Gus?" Chammas said on Nine's 100% Footy in September.

"How would Michael Maguire... take Tim Sheens' appointment?"

The two-man partnership between Sheens and Maguire, the man who steered the Rabbitohs to the 2014 NRL title, is a hot talking point heading into the 2022 season.

But as the Tigers filter back to the club for pre-season training, intent on ending a 10-year finals exile, Farah has hosed down talk of Maguire being uncomfortable with Sheens' appointment in an interview with Wide World of Sports.

"I don't think that's the case at all, to be honest," said Farah, who's now a Tigers trainer.
"When you can bring in someone of Sheensy's quality you would be mad not to.

"He can oversee the whole football program. He's not only there to oversee what's happening with the NRL squad; it's about laying the foundations in our junior pathways, our grassroots, making sure we're a strong club from the bottom up.

"That's what it's about, that's what brings us sustained success. It's not about making the semi-finals for one season and then dropping out the year after; it's about making sure that we're a competitive club year on end.

"That's because you lay the foundations and that starts from the bottom up and that's what Sheensy's role is.
"I think it's a great appointment, I know Madge thinks it's a great appointment.

"They've been great," Farah said.
"I know Madge is really keen to work with Tim.


Paws must be beside himself with this news?

I can't wait for Maguire to get his instructions from Sheens. I hope it is words to the effect

"Michael, that crap you've been serving up for three years, five hit ups and a bomb is never to be played again at WTs. We have the players, we play football, throw it around. Oh, Michael, have Nathan implement a cohesive and effective defensive plan".

You know deep down, that is not what is going to happen, but keep dreaming.?

It is though. Sheens runs everything now. He tells Madge to jump and Madge will ask how high.

Keep believing, you know it’s a dream.

TW we could go back and forth on this all day. Just look at the org chart. Madge below Sheens.

Yes he is, but so, Pascoe is above Sheens, that doesn’t mean he will manage the footy? It’s why he got Sheens in the first place, do you really believe he will take over coaching the team? There is a lot of other things to get organised (like getting some players) to do, before he needs to worry about the coach.

Don't you think Sheens has a brand of football he would like all teams at WTs, Wests and Balmain reps to play? I believe this is where Sheens can add value. He tells your demi-god that he is to implement this Brand in the NRL team. The other coaches of KOE, U20s, SG Ball and HM would receive the same instructions.

Hmmm, we all know @pawsandclaws1 you're so heavily invested, credibilty wise, for the Sheens coaching coordination role to go well. But, in my humble opinion, your comments have drifted from fantasy to delusion to paranoia.

Do you genuinely think that a relic of the past like Sheens will be "dictating" contemporary coaching strategies to Maguire and others? Do you really?

It's blissful delusion.

The consistent issue about you TT is that you always target the man.

Well, it might be an "issue" for you @pawsandclaws1, but I am only offering a different perspective on what you so regularly offer on here. Isn't that what a forum is about?

It’s an issue for most people. You’ve never had an original thought as to what should he done, you just target posters with drivel.

Hmm....well.... the usual suspects are out in force. Playing the victim card to counter those who are reasoned enough to call out the absolutism of others' "opinions" on here.

But, I'll keep at it.

You don’t have an opinion.

Actually, that's all I've got, is an opinion. Just like you, and others.

I just don't try to present my opinions as "fact" or as coming from some greater knowledge about topics than others on here.

Great then argue the point. If you disagree tell me why rather than having a dig at me. As an example, me and @TigerWest have had a million arguments about Madge but they’ve never been personal.

Look, this is, no doubt, boring for the rest of the people viewing this stuff. I think most would recoginse that I am questioning "opinions" that are offered as "fact".

Such as your mate, @pawsandclaws1 suggesting the existence a hierarchical structure that has Maguire "answerable" to Sheens and Sheens directly issuing edicts to Maguire about how the NRL squad will be coached. I "think" that's BS that needs to be called out for what it is.

What do you think his role will be?

I think his role will be to ensure all WT coaches have necessary resources, clear communication lines with each other and senior club management, to offer his perspectives on recruitment, retention, strategy and future planning, embedding the CoE as part of a, hopefully, more successful WT structure, represent the "football" department in executive leadership and management discussions, remind Chairman Mouth and Pascoe about effective promotion and representation of the club in the media and in corporate circles ..... to name a few of his KPIs, in my opinion.

But, nowhere does my job description for him include having a direct supervisory role role that requires Maguire and Gardiner and Cayless (et al) to run any selection or game specific tactical decisions by him.

And, if the coaching staff are smart enough (and i think they are), they will seek his input in their decision making in a collegial, mutually respectful and professional manner. That's exactly how Lee H explained the role that Sheens would fulfil. Collegial, supportive and coherent in bringing all aspects of the WT together from a football department perspective.

That others on here are salivating on the prospect of Sheens taking control of the coaching of the NRL squad and isolating and diminsihing the role of Maguire, speaks more about their prejudices than my thinking of Sheens' role at and value to the club. I'll say it again; it's sweet delusion.

Good post.

 

[mike]

**EXCLUSIVE: Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah hoses down fears of Michael Maguire -Tim Sheens partnership not working out**
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/2022-wests-tigers-tim-sheens-appointment-michael-maguire-robbie-farah-exclusive/ca98a6e8-ea21-4ee4-ac5b-5e921d4c8cc8

Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah has shot down fears of coach Michael Maguire feeling at unease over greater responsibility being handed to Tim Sheens at the embattled club.

The man who led a youthful Tigers outfit to the 2005 NRL premiership returned to the club in June as head of football performance, before taking on the role of director of coaching in September amid the club's tumultuous internal review.

The appointment led Michael Chammas of The Sydney Morning Herald to ask rugby league guru Phil Gould how Maguire would feel about it.

"How do you take it as coach... if they are bringing in someone over the top of you, Gus?" Chammas said on Nine's 100% Footy in September.

"How would Michael Maguire... take Tim Sheens' appointment?"

The two-man partnership between Sheens and Maguire, the man who steered the Rabbitohs to the 2014 NRL title, is a hot talking point heading into the 2022 season.

But as the Tigers filter back to the club for pre-season training, intent on ending a 10-year finals exile, Farah has hosed down talk of Maguire being uncomfortable with Sheens' appointment in an interview with Wide World of Sports.

"I don't think that's the case at all, to be honest," said Farah, who's now a Tigers trainer.
"When you can bring in someone of Sheensy's quality you would be mad not to.

"He can oversee the whole football program. He's not only there to oversee what's happening with the NRL squad; it's about laying the foundations in our junior pathways, our grassroots, making sure we're a strong club from the bottom up.

"That's what it's about, that's what brings us sustained success. It's not about making the semi-finals for one season and then dropping out the year after; it's about making sure that we're a competitive club year on end.

"That's because you lay the foundations and that starts from the bottom up and that's what Sheensy's role is.
"I think it's a great appointment, I know Madge thinks it's a great appointment.

"They've been great," Farah said.
"I know Madge is really keen to work with Tim.


Paws must be beside himself with this news?

I can't wait for Maguire to get his instructions from Sheens. I hope it is words to the effect

"Michael, that crap you've been serving up for three years, five hit ups and a bomb is never to be played again at WTs. We have the players, we play football, throw it around. Oh, Michael, have Nathan implement a cohesive and effective defensive plan".

You know deep down, that is not what is going to happen, but keep dreaming.?

It is though. Sheens runs everything now. He tells Madge to jump and Madge will ask how high.

Keep believing, you know it’s a dream.

TW we could go back and forth on this all day. Just look at the org chart. Madge below Sheens.

Yes he is, but so, Pascoe is above Sheens, that doesn’t mean he will manage the footy? It’s why he got Sheens in the first place, do you really believe he will take over coaching the team? There is a lot of other things to get organised (like getting some players) to do, before he needs to worry about the coach.

Don't you think Sheens has a brand of football he would like all teams at WTs, Wests and Balmain reps to play? I believe this is where Sheens can add value. He tells your demi-god that he is to implement this Brand in the NRL team. The other coaches of KOE, U20s, SG Ball and HM would receive the same instructions.

Hmmm, we all know @pawsandclaws1 you're so heavily invested, credibilty wise, for the Sheens coaching coordination role to go well. But, in my humble opinion, your comments have drifted from fantasy to delusion to paranoia.

Do you genuinely think that a relic of the past like Sheens will be "dictating" contemporary coaching strategies to Maguire and others? Do you really?

It's blissful delusion.

The consistent issue about you TT is that you always target the man.

Well, it might be an "issue" for you @pawsandclaws1, but I am only offering a different perspective on what you so regularly offer on here. Isn't that what a forum is about?

It’s an issue for most people. You’ve never had an original thought as to what should he done, you just target posters with drivel.

Hmm....well.... the usual suspects are out in force. Playing the victim card to counter those who are reasoned enough to call out the absolutism of others' "opinions" on here.

But, I'll keep at it.

You don’t have an opinion.

Actually, that's all I've got, is an opinion. Just like you, and others.

I just don't try to present my opinions as "fact" or as coming from some greater knowledge about topics than others on here.

Great then argue the point. If you disagree tell me why rather than having a dig at me. As an example, me and @TigerWest have had a million arguments about Madge but they’ve never been personal.

Look, this is, no doubt, boring for the rest of the people viewing this stuff. I think most would recoginse that I am questioning "opinions" that are offered as "fact".

Such as your mate, @pawsandclaws1 suggesting the existence a hierarchical structure that has Maguire "answerable" to Sheens and Sheens directly issuing edicts to Maguire about how the NRL squad will be coached. I "think" that's BS that needs to be called out for what it is.

What do you think his role will be?

I think his role will be to ensure all WT coaches have necessary resources, clear communication lines with each other and senior club management, to offer his perspectives on recruitment, retention, strategy and future planning, embedding the CoE as part of a, hopefully, more successful WT structure, represent the "football" department in executive leadership and management discussions, remind Chairman Mouth and Pascoe about effective promotion and representation of the club in the media and in corporate circles ..... to name a few of his KPIs, in my opinion.

But, nowhere does my job description for him include having a direct supervisory role role that requires Maguire and Gardiner and Cayless (et al) to run any selection or game specific tactical decisions by him.

And, if the coaching staff are smart enough (and i think they are), they will seek his input in their decision making in a collegial, mutually respectful and professional manner. That's exactly how Lee H explained the role that Sheens would fulfil. Collegial, supportive and coherent in bringing all aspects of the WT together from a football department perspective.

That others on here are salivating on the prospect of Sheens taking control of the coaching of the NRL squad and isolating and diminsihing the role of Maguire, speaks more about their prejudices than my thinking of Sheens' role at and value to the club. I'll say it again; it's sweet delusion.

Fairly close to the mark I’d say. Excellent summary of TS’s role.

 

[Spud]

Budgets and financial reporting for the football department will also be a major part of his duties.
I agree he isn’t here to coach the team, but do not fall into the trap of believing he will be a passive observer.
Don’t be surprised to hear he is in the room for team selections every week and occasional video sessions as well.
He is not just some corporate in an office, he will be involved.

 

[Spud]

Budgets and financial reporting for the football department will also be a major part of his duties.
I agree he isn’t here to coach the team, but do not fall into the trap of believing he will be a passive observer.
Don’t be surprised to hear he is in the room for team selections every week and occasional video sessions as well.
He is not just some corporate in an office, he will be involved.

Yep, and I said that. The NRL coaching staff would be crazy not to seek his input. But, it's not a structural necessity.

I think it is by design

 

[tony soprano]

For the past decade the perpetrators
(the media + player managers) have undoubtably been delibarately and unfairly attacking the **WT** with exagerated stories, bias, and rumours. They were intent on beating the WT to death.

What the perpetrators should now realise is that the **WT** have completed the assembling of their professional staff with the arrival of our commander-in-chief Sheenious, the **WT** are now more than capable of opposing the unjust attacks by these perpetrators.

The sleeping giant is awakening.

Well said

 

[pawsandclaws1]

**EXCLUSIVE: Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah hoses down fears of Michael Maguire -Tim Sheens partnership not working out**
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/2022-wests-tigers-tim-sheens-appointment-michael-maguire-robbie-farah-exclusive/ca98a6e8-ea21-4ee4-ac5b-5e921d4c8cc8

Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah has shot down fears of coach Michael Maguire feeling at unease over greater responsibility being handed to Tim Sheens at the embattled club.

The man who led a youthful Tigers outfit to the 2005 NRL premiership returned to the club in June as head of football performance, before taking on the role of director of coaching in September amid the club's tumultuous internal review.

The appointment led Michael Chammas of The Sydney Morning Herald to ask rugby league guru Phil Gould how Maguire would feel about it.

"How do you take it as coach... if they are bringing in someone over the top of you, Gus?" Chammas said on Nine's 100% Footy in September.

"How would Michael Maguire... take Tim Sheens' appointment?"

The two-man partnership between Sheens and Maguire, the man who steered the Rabbitohs to the 2014 NRL title, is a hot talking point heading into the 2022 season.

But as the Tigers filter back to the club for pre-season training, intent on ending a 10-year finals exile, Farah has hosed down talk of Maguire being uncomfortable with Sheens' appointment in an interview with Wide World of Sports.

"I don't think that's the case at all, to be honest," said Farah, who's now a Tigers trainer.
"When you can bring in someone of Sheensy's quality you would be mad not to.

"He can oversee the whole football program. He's not only there to oversee what's happening with the NRL squad; it's about laying the foundations in our junior pathways, our grassroots, making sure we're a strong club from the bottom up.

"That's what it's about, that's what brings us sustained success. It's not about making the semi-finals for one season and then dropping out the year after; it's about making sure that we're a competitive club year on end.

"That's because you lay the foundations and that starts from the bottom up and that's what Sheensy's role is.
"I think it's a great appointment, I know Madge thinks it's a great appointment.

"They've been great," Farah said.
"I know Madge is really keen to work with Tim.


Paws must be beside himself with this news?

I can't wait for Maguire to get his instructions from Sheens. I hope it is words to the effect

"Michael, that crap you've been serving up for three years, five hit ups and a bomb is never to be played again at WTs. We have the players, we play football, throw it around. Oh, Michael, have Nathan implement a cohesive and effective defensive plan".

You know deep down, that is not what is going to happen, but keep dreaming.?

It is though. Sheens runs everything now. He tells Madge to jump and Madge will ask how high.

Keep believing, you know it’s a dream.

TW we could go back and forth on this all day. Just look at the org chart. Madge below Sheens.

Yes he is, but so, Pascoe is above Sheens, that doesn’t mean he will manage the footy? It’s why he got Sheens in the first place, do you really believe he will take over coaching the team? There is a lot of other things to get organised (like getting some players) to do, before he needs to worry about the coach.

Don't you think Sheens has a brand of football he would like all teams at WTs, Wests and Balmain reps to play? I believe this is where Sheens can add value. He tells your demi-god that he is to implement this Brand in the NRL team. The other coaches of KOE, U20s, SG Ball and HM would receive the same instructions.

Hmmm, we all know @pawsandclaws1 you're so heavily invested, credibilty wise, for the Sheens coaching coordination role to go well. But, in my humble opinion, your comments have drifted from fantasy to delusion to paranoia.

Do you genuinely think that a relic of the past like Sheens will be "dictating" contemporary coaching strategies to Maguire and others? Do you really?

It's blissful delusion.

The consistent issue about you TT is that you always target the man.

Well, it might be an "issue" for you @pawsandclaws1, but I am only offering a different perspective on what you so regularly offer on here. Isn't that what a forum is about?

It’s an issue for most people. You’ve never had an original thought as to what should he done, you just target posters with drivel.

Hmm....well.... the usual suspects are out in force. Playing the victim card to counter those who are reasoned enough to call out the absolutism of others' "opinions" on here.

But, I'll keep at it.

You don’t have an opinion.

Actually, that's all I've got, is an opinion. Just like you, and others.

I just don't try to present my opinions as "fact" or as coming from some greater knowledge about topics than others on here.

Great then argue the point. If you disagree tell me why rather than having a dig at me. As an example, me and @TigerWest have had a million arguments about Madge but they’ve never been personal.

Look, this is, no doubt, boring for the rest of the people viewing this stuff. I think most would recoginse that I am questioning "opinions" that are offered as "fact".

Such as your mate, @pawsandclaws1 suggesting the existence a hierarchical structure that has Maguire "answerable" to Sheens and Sheens directly issuing edicts to Maguire about how the NRL squad will be coached. I "think" that's BS that needs to be called out for what it is.

What do you think his role will be?

I think his role will be to ensure all WT coaches have necessary resources, clear communication lines with each other and senior club management, to offer his perspectives on recruitment, retention, strategy and future planning, embedding the CoE as part of a, hopefully, more successful WT structure, represent the "football" department in executive leadership and management discussions, remind Chairman Mouth and Pascoe about effective promotion and representation of the club in the media and in corporate circles ..... to name a few of his KPIs, in my opinion.

But, nowhere does my job description for him include having a direct supervisory role role that requires Maguire and Gardiner and Cayless (et al) to run any selection or game specific tactical decisions by him.

And, if the coaching staff are smart enough (and i think they are), they will seek his input in their decision making in a collegial, mutually respectful and professional manner. That's exactly how Lee H explained the role that Sheens would fulfil. Collegial, supportive and coherent in bringing all aspects of the WT together from a football department perspective.

That others on here are salivating on the prospect of Sheens taking control of the coaching of the NRL squad and isolating and diminsihing the role of Maguire, speaks more about their prejudices than my thinking of Sheens' role at and value to the club. I'll say it again; it's sweet delusion.

You can frame it anyway you like Tiger Tragic, but as has been previously posted, Tim Sheens is the big Kahuna. As to his involvement in the NRL team, as the big Kahuna he will decide his level of involvement.

 

[avocadoontoast]

**EXCLUSIVE: Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah hoses down fears of Michael Maguire -Tim Sheens partnership not working out**
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/2022-wests-tigers-tim-sheens-appointment-michael-maguire-robbie-farah-exclusive/ca98a6e8-ea21-4ee4-ac5b-5e921d4c8cc8

Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah has shot down fears of coach Michael Maguire feeling at unease over greater responsibility being handed to Tim Sheens at the embattled club.

The man who led a youthful Tigers outfit to the 2005 NRL premiership returned to the club in June as head of football performance, before taking on the role of director of coaching in September amid the club's tumultuous internal review.

The appointment led Michael Chammas of The Sydney Morning Herald to ask rugby league guru Phil Gould how Maguire would feel about it.

"How do you take it as coach... if they are bringing in someone over the top of you, Gus?" Chammas said on Nine's 100% Footy in September.

"How would Michael Maguire... take Tim Sheens' appointment?"

The two-man partnership between Sheens and Maguire, the man who steered the Rabbitohs to the 2014 NRL title, is a hot talking point heading into the 2022 season.

But as the Tigers filter back to the club for pre-season training, intent on ending a 10-year finals exile, Farah has hosed down talk of Maguire being uncomfortable with Sheens' appointment in an interview with Wide World of Sports.

"I don't think that's the case at all, to be honest," said Farah, who's now a Tigers trainer.
"When you can bring in someone of Sheensy's quality you would be mad not to.

"He can oversee the whole football program. He's not only there to oversee what's happening with the NRL squad; it's about laying the foundations in our junior pathways, our grassroots, making sure we're a strong club from the bottom up.

"That's what it's about, that's what brings us sustained success. It's not about making the semi-finals for one season and then dropping out the year after; it's about making sure that we're a competitive club year on end.

"That's because you lay the foundations and that starts from the bottom up and that's what Sheensy's role is.
"I think it's a great appointment, I know Madge thinks it's a great appointment.

"They've been great," Farah said.
"I know Madge is really keen to work with Tim.


Paws must be beside himself with this news?

I can't wait for Maguire to get his instructions from Sheens. I hope it is words to the effect

"Michael, that crap you've been serving up for three years, five hit ups and a bomb is never to be played again at WTs. We have the players, we play football, throw it around. Oh, Michael, have Nathan implement a cohesive and effective defensive plan".

You know deep down, that is not what is going to happen, but keep dreaming.?

It is though. Sheens runs everything now. He tells Madge to jump and Madge will ask how high.

Keep believing, you know it’s a dream.

TW we could go back and forth on this all day. Just look at the org chart. Madge below Sheens.

Yes he is, but so, Pascoe is above Sheens, that doesn’t mean he will manage the footy? It’s why he got Sheens in the first place, do you really believe he will take over coaching the team? There is a lot of other things to get organised (like getting some players) to do, before he needs to worry about the coach.

Don't you think Sheens has a brand of football he would like all teams at WTs, Wests and Balmain reps to play? I believe this is where Sheens can add value. He tells your demi-god that he is to implement this Brand in the NRL team. The other coaches of KOE, U20s, SG Ball and HM would receive the same instructions.

Hmmm, we all know @pawsandclaws1 you're so heavily invested, credibilty wise, for the Sheens coaching coordination role to go well. But, in my humble opinion, your comments have drifted from fantasy to delusion to paranoia.

Do you genuinely think that a relic of the past like Sheens will be "dictating" contemporary coaching strategies to Maguire and others? Do you really?

It's blissful delusion.

The consistent issue about you TT is that you always target the man.

Well, it might be an "issue" for you @pawsandclaws1, but I am only offering a different perspective on what you so regularly offer on here. Isn't that what a forum is about?

It’s an issue for most people. You’ve never had an original thought as to what should he done, you just target posters with drivel.

Hmm....well.... the usual suspects are out in force. Playing the victim card to counter those who are reasoned enough to call out the absolutism of others' "opinions" on here.

But, I'll keep at it.

You don’t have an opinion.

Actually, that's all I've got, is an opinion. Just like you, and others.

I just don't try to present my opinions as "fact" or as coming from some greater knowledge about topics than others on here.

Great then argue the point. If you disagree tell me why rather than having a dig at me. As an example, me and @TigerWest have had a million arguments about Madge but they’ve never been personal.

Look, this is, no doubt, boring for the rest of the people viewing this stuff. I think most would recoginse that I am questioning "opinions" that are offered as "fact".

Such as your mate, @pawsandclaws1 suggesting the existence a hierarchical structure that has Maguire "answerable" to Sheens and Sheens directly issuing edicts to Maguire about how the NRL squad will be coached. I "think" that's BS that needs to be called out for what it is.

What do you think his role will be?

I think his role will be to ensure all WT coaches have necessary resources, clear communication lines with each other and senior club management, to offer his perspectives on recruitment, retention, strategy and future planning, embedding the CoE as part of a, hopefully, more successful WT structure, represent the "football" department in executive leadership and management discussions, remind Chairman Mouth and Pascoe about effective promotion and representation of the club in the media and in corporate circles ..... to name a few of his KPIs, in my opinion.

But, nowhere does my job description for him include having a direct supervisory role role that requires Maguire and Gardiner and Cayless (et al) to run any selection or game specific tactical decisions by him.

And, if the coaching staff are smart enough (and i think they are), they will seek his input in their decision making in a collegial, mutually respectful and professional manner. That's exactly how Lee H explained the role that Sheens would fulfil. Collegial, supportive and coherent in bringing all aspects of the WT together from a football department perspective.

That others on here are salivating on the prospect of Sheens taking control of the coaching of the NRL squad and isolating and diminsihing the role of Maguire, speaks more about their prejudices than my thinking of Sheens' role at and value to the club. I'll say it again; it's sweet delusion.

You can frame it anyway you like Tiger Tragic, but as has been previously posted, Tim Sheens is the big Kahuna. As to his involvement in the NRL team, as the big Kahuna he will decide his level of involvement.

Can’t believe people still think Madge is in control.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

**EXCLUSIVE: Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah hoses down fears of Michael Maguire -Tim Sheens partnership not working out**
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/2022-wests-tigers-tim-sheens-appointment-michael-maguire-robbie-farah-exclusive/ca98a6e8-ea21-4ee4-ac5b-5e921d4c8cc8

Wests Tigers great Robbie Farah has shot down fears of coach Michael Maguire feeling at unease over greater responsibility being handed to Tim Sheens at the embattled club.

The man who led a youthful Tigers outfit to the 2005 NRL premiership returned to the club in June as head of football performance, before taking on the role of director of coaching in September amid the club's tumultuous internal review.

The appointment led Michael Chammas of The Sydney Morning Herald to ask rugby league guru Phil Gould how Maguire would feel about it.

"How do you take it as coach... if they are bringing in someone over the top of you, Gus?" Chammas said on Nine's 100% Footy in September.

"How would Michael Maguire... take Tim Sheens' appointment?"

The two-man partnership between Sheens and Maguire, the man who steered the Rabbitohs to the 2014 NRL title, is a hot talking point heading into the 2022 season.

But as the Tigers filter back to the club for pre-season training, intent on ending a 10-year finals exile, Farah has hosed down talk of Maguire being uncomfortable with Sheens' appointment in an interview with Wide World of Sports.

"I don't think that's the case at all, to be honest," said Farah, who's now a Tigers trainer.
"When you can bring in someone of Sheensy's quality you would be mad not to.

"He can oversee the whole football program. He's not only there to oversee what's happening with the NRL squad; it's about laying the foundations in our junior pathways, our grassroots, making sure we're a strong club from the bottom up.

"That's what it's about, that's what brings us sustained success. It's not about making the semi-finals for one season and then dropping out the year after; it's about making sure that we're a competitive club year on end.

"That's because you lay the foundations and that starts from the bottom up and that's what Sheensy's role is.
"I think it's a great appointment, I know Madge thinks it's a great appointment.

"They've been great," Farah said.
"I know Madge is really keen to work with Tim.


Paws must be beside himself with this news?

I can't wait for Maguire to get his instructions from Sheens. I hope it is words to the effect

"Michael, that crap you've been serving up for three years, five hit ups and a bomb is never to be played again at WTs. We have the players, we play football, throw it around. Oh, Michael, have Nathan implement a cohesive and effective defensive plan".

You know deep down, that is not what is going to happen, but keep dreaming.?

It is though. Sheens runs everything now. He tells Madge to jump and Madge will ask how high.

Keep believing, you know it’s a dream.

TW we could go back and forth on this all day. Just look at the org chart. Madge below Sheens.

Yes he is, but so, Pascoe is above Sheens, that doesn’t mean he will manage the footy? It’s why he got Sheens in the first place, do you really believe he will take over coaching the team? There is a lot of other things to get organised (like getting some players) to do, before he needs to worry about the coach.

Don't you think Sheens has a brand of football he would like all teams at WTs, Wests and Balmain reps to play? I believe this is where Sheens can add value. He tells your demi-god that he is to implement this Brand in the NRL team. The other coaches of KOE, U20s, SG Ball and HM would receive the same instructions.

Hmmm, we all know @pawsandclaws1 you're so heavily invested, credibilty wise, for the Sheens coaching coordination role to go well. But, in my humble opinion, your comments have drifted from fantasy to delusion to paranoia.

Do you genuinely think that a relic of the past like Sheens will be "dictating" contemporary coaching strategies to Maguire and others? Do you really?

It's blissful delusion.

The consistent issue about you TT is that you always target the man.

Well, it might be an "issue" for you @pawsandclaws1, but I am only offering a different perspective on what you so regularly offer on here. Isn't that what a forum is about?

It’s an issue for most people. You’ve never had an original thought as to what should he done, you just target posters with drivel.

Hmm....well.... the usual suspects are out in force. Playing the victim card to counter those who are reasoned enough to call out the absolutism of others' "opinions" on here.

But, I'll keep at it.

You don’t have an opinion.

Actually, that's all I've got, is an opinion. Just like you, and others.

I just don't try to present my opinions as "fact" or as coming from some greater knowledge about topics than others on here.

Great then argue the point. If you disagree tell me why rather than having a dig at me. As an example, me and @TigerWest have had a million arguments about Madge but they’ve never been personal.

Look, this is, no doubt, boring for the rest of the people viewing this stuff. I think most would recoginse that I am questioning "opinions" that are offered as "fact".

Such as your mate, @pawsandclaws1 suggesting the existence a hierarchical structure that has Maguire "answerable" to Sheens and Sheens directly issuing edicts to Maguire about how the NRL squad will be coached. I "think" that's BS that needs to be called out for what it is.

What do you think his role will be?

I think his role will be to ensure all WT coaches have necessary resources, clear communication lines with each other and senior club management, to offer his perspectives on recruitment, retention, strategy and future planning, embedding the CoE as part of a, hopefully, more successful WT structure, represent the "football" department in executive leadership and management discussions, remind Chairman Mouth and Pascoe about effective promotion and representation of the club in the media and in corporate circles ..... to name a few of his KPIs, in my opinion.

But, nowhere does my job description for him include having a direct supervisory role role that requires Maguire and Gardiner and Cayless (et al) to run any selection or game specific tactical decisions by him.

And, if the coaching staff are smart enough (and i think they are), they will seek his input in their decision making in a collegial, mutually respectful and professional manner. That's exactly how Lee H explained the role that Sheens would fulfil. Collegial, supportive and coherent in bringing all aspects of the WT together from a football department perspective.

That others on here are salivating on the prospect of Sheens taking control of the coaching of the NRL squad and isolating and diminsihing the role of Maguire, speaks more about their prejudices than my thinking of Sheens' role at and value to the club. I'll say it again; it's sweet delusion.

You can frame it anyway you like Tiger Tragic, but as has been previously posted, Tim Sheens is the big Kahuna. As to his involvement in the NRL team, as the big Kahuna he will decide his level of involvement.

Can’t believe people still think Madge is in control.

As you so succinctly wrote last night, Sheens says jump and Maguire says how high.