Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[crazycat]

Asitasi James looked like he was quite fit for a big man ?
I still don’t know why we didn’t keep him, big, strong, aggressive, hard running props are very valuable, let’s hope the likes of Josh Finau and Nick Lui-Toso prove to be capable replacements.
Young Jordan Miller who is top 30 contracted to us looks to need a lot of work fitness wise and needs a lot of work with his lateral movement when defending. I can understand why the club put him on a top 30 contract based on his size, destructive ball running and potential, let’s hope he puts in the hard work to repay the faith,

I think this is a "how are they at training" kinda deal.

We were all surprised when the roosters released Ryan Matterson. On field he was actually really good for us, winning 1 game off his own energy and pushing a few more.


Off field, Man that guy gives Gen Z's work ethic a bad rep and that takes effort.

We have gotten the "which one to keep" wrong before, in punting Fifita for Groat... I reckon the trainers would know better or at least be able to flag a behind the scenes looser.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The Roosters are losing Manu, Sua’ali‘i and potentially Crichton to Rugby. Yet you watch heads explode about the sombrero when they have the temerity to go onto the open market.

 

[crazycat]

Easily our best in 2021,and shld be encouraged by Billy Smiths return to the Roosters from his 3rd acl
But Smith came back fully firing...Douhi looked hesitant and avoiding contact last year
It's a wait and see whether he brings his 21 form and attitude
If he does,he's still a candidate for 6 ,or 3 in 25
But he will need to show something....and if he does,his old club at Redfern cld be looking for 2 new halves at year end if things don't go great

Tell him he's dreaming son. 😉

Please AD pushing off:
Sullivan
Fainu
Galvin

Heck I don't see AD being ahead of Sezer at the moment.

Or were you thinking tackleless would go in the Centers, the position he hated and shirked?
If i were AD's manager, I would be hunting him a spot overseas ASAP.
There ain't no home for you here

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

The Roosters are losing Manu, Sua’ali‘i and potentially Crichton to Rugby. Yet you watch heads explode about the sombrero when they have the temerity to go onto the open market.

In the cheque book ( do they still exist) are in the black.

 

[PabloX]

hahahah.
Don't look here guys. Established outside backs is one thing we really don't have. Maybe we have 1 with Olam, I am really hopeful but want to see his on field performance.

You don't need experienced outside backs to be successful

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Valid point. Broncos in 2023.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Panthers also

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Every team needs a good leader.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Panthers also

Ill add a couple more. 2017/2020 Melbourne Storm & 2018 / 19 Roosters(Latrell and Joey Manu were 20 & 21).

If you break it down every premiership winning team in the last 7 years has had more inexperienced outside backs in their team than experienced.

Edit: I couldn't be bothered thinking further but I just remembered that Sharks also won in 2016 with the backline of Feki / Bird / Leutele / Holmes (139 NRL Games total experience before the start of 2016 season). Olam has 104 NRL Games which is 75% of their entire total.

2015 Cowboys had a more rounded backline in terms of experience, however the grand final winning try from Feldt was his 22nd NRL game

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Absolutely. FrodoTBaggin. A leader is crucial. Someone to navigate the ship. The rest will fall into place. Look at Bula.

 

[crazycat]

You don't need experienced outside backs to be successful

You know, fair point.
The teams you cite
Panthers (at least their first time)
Broncos
etc. Did the job.

I note that they were high quality backs. I.e. Brian Too, Latrell, etc. Yes, not necessarily experienced.

We though have been really lacking for a long while in good quality backs. I truly hope Olam lifts us in that area. We will see in 2024 as our forwards stay the same, halves become brand new and backline matures. ... Lets see.

 

[BAGNF05]

You don't need experienced outside backs to be successful

I agree with this but you do need game breakers who can find the try line given half a sniff.

 

[Feline Carrier]

Why? If we play him in the halves, he doesn't need to tackle!

Pity he is useless in attack as well. What good is a half with no pace, no short kicking game and no passing game. We just got rid of one of those.

 

[weststigers]

Pity he is useless in attack as well. What good is a half with no pace, no short kicking game and no passing game. We just got rid of one of those.

We were talking about his defence and you said halves don't need to defend.

Nice Segway.

 

[Feline Carrier]

We were talking about his defence and you said halves don't need to defend.

Nice Segway.

Yes, I don't believe halves have to be world class defenders. Certainly helps if they are, but as I've said already their job is to create points. The aim of the game for 125 years is to score more points than the other side and the halfback is instrumental to that. We had no halves last year that could create points. We let go of the only halfback that was capable of that and he took his team to semis footy last year.

I'm perfectly fine with all our halves from last year being moved on. Brooks was probably the better defender out of them all but couldn't do the most important part of his job right. Doueihi can't do either, he can go too.

And I don't own a Segway, only goofs and hipsters ride those. I think the word you're searching for is "segue." If you're going to be a condescending wanker it probably helps if you use the King's English so as to avoid looking foolish xo.

 

[crazycat]

I agree with this but you do need game breakers who can find the try line given half a sniff.

Yea,

Ill take the point you don't need experienced backs. Your dead set right you need:
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game breakers who can find the try line given half a sniff.

Also people who can hold a line. You can get to 9th if you just sniff tries.
When you actually have a good defensive lineup, you can stop giving away tries.
That's why guys like Crichton are so valuable.

 

[weststigers]

Yes, I don't believe halves have to be world class defenders. Certainly helps if they are, but as I've said already their job is to create points. The aim of the game for 125 years is to score more points than the other side and the halfback is instrumental to that. We had no halves last year that could create points. We let go of the only halfback that was capable of that and he took his team to semis footy last year.

I'm perfectly fine with all our halves from last year being moved on. Brooks was probably the better defender out of them all but couldn't do the most important part of his job right. Doueihi can't do either, he can go too.

And I don't own a Segway, only goofs and hipsters ride those. I think the word you're searching for is "segue." If you're going to be a condescending wanker it probably helps if you use the King's English so as to avoid looking foolish xo.

You really get quite defensive.

 

[Feline Carrier]

You really get quite defensive.

Quite the "Segway."

 

[weststigers]

Quite the "Segway."

Well it just proves my point. How I spelled the word doesn't play a factor in my argument.

 

[balmain boy]

This will be a big test for him in regards to his attitude for his future as a player,hopefully he knuckles down and is doing what the coaches would be telling him

Not sure about a big test. Just his natural progression. Ideally he'd only be on a development contract this season so expectations would be much lower. He's an 18-19 year old prop, who had an injury in the offseason that he's overcoming. Getting back to fitness, and yes he knows he needs to drop some kgs.

For Miller, 2024 is all about building for 2025. He has a good attitude, hopefully seeing team mates kick on inspires him to keep working his ass off.