Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

bptiger 0 said:
No way , miller has shown nothing , and I don’t think it’s all his fault, the coaching staff have to carry a lot of the blame , why is he still 130 kg at this stage of the season, no line speed , no speed hitting the line , buggered after 10 minutes. So is no one of the staff not pouring fitness into him and making sure he eats s the right food .

HUNT is not a lazy forward , and if everyone watched the sharks games , they only use him in every short spells , because they get big minutes out of there starting props , it’s not hunt’s fault, it’s just the way the sharks work .
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Evidently your assessment of Miller is based purely on his two first grade appearances. In reserves, his fitness improved significantly over the course of the season and towards the end he was averaging 40-50mins a game. He was our most dynamic forward, bending the line and getting offloads. Sure he has deficiencies in his game, especially his lateral movement in defence, but in the words of Redgum, he's only 19. With a full pre-season and better conditioning, he could have a breakout year in 2025. I reckon he'll be a regular in the squad by the end of the year.
 
TV Ted Ellery said:
Evidently your assessment of Miller is based purely on his two first grade appearances. In reserves, his fitness improved significantly over the course of the season and towards the end he was averaging 40-50mins a game. He was our most dynamic forward, bending the line and getting offloads. Sure he has deficiencies in his game, especially his lateral movement in defence, but in the words of Redgum, he's only 19. With a full pre-season and better conditioning, he could have a breakout year in 2025. I reckon he'll be a regular in the squad by the end of the year.
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It's best to not make up stuff to support your warped perception.

Jordan Miller: Round 20- 30 minutes
Round 21- 23 minutes
Round22 - 37 minutes
Round 23 DNP
Round 24 - 22 minutes
Round 25 -33 minutes

Keep in mind that that 37 minutes against the Roosters would rate as the worst 37 minutes on any football field in the country that day.

The only thing baby Huey bent in any of those games was his elbow at KFC after the final siren.
 
Todd Packer said:
It's best to not make up stuff to support your warped perception.

Jordan Miller: Round 20- 30 minutes
Round 21- 23 minutes
Round22 - 37 minutes
Round 23 DNP
Round 24 - 22 minutes
Round 25 -33 minutes

Keep in mind that that 37 minutes against the Roosters would rate as the worst 37 minutes on any football field in the country that day.

The only thing baby Huey bent in any of those games was his elbow at KFC after the final siren.
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Watched the round 25 game. My observations were: Was consistently tackled by 3 players which stopped the off loads.
The next run would not happen for another 5 min. time maybe. Slow in lateral defence. If they didn't run into him they could run past him for others to tackle. He was then able help the others.
He was looking to get involved; but too slow to get in position to receive the ball.
Has lost the tummy fat but slow movements without the ball.
 
bptiger 0 said:
No way , miller has shown nothing , and I don’t think it’s all his fault, the coaching staff have to carry a lot of the blame , why is he still 130 kg at this stage of the season, no line speed , no speed hitting the line , buggered after 10 minutes. So is no one of the staff not pouring fitness into him and making sure he eats s the right food .

HUNT is not a lazy forward , and if everyone watched the sharks games , they only use him in every short spells , because they get big minutes out of there starting props , it’s not hunt’s fault, it’s just the way the sharks work .
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Who said Miller is still 130kg at this stage of the season?

Those weights are preseason measurements and Miller is a 19 year old kid.

The smart money would be on that figure being wildly different. Personally, whilst he has a long way to go, I reckon he looks much smaller now than February.
 
Todd Packer said:
It's best to not make up stuff to support your warped perception.

Jordan Miller: Round 20- 30 minutes
Round 21- 23 minutes
Round22 - 37 minutes
Round 23 DNP
Round 24 - 22 minutes
Round 25 -33 minutes

Keep in mind that that 37 minutes against the Roosters would rate as the worst 37 minutes on any football field in the country that day.

The only thing baby Huey bent in any of those games was his elbow at KFC after the final siren.
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I watched every one of those games aside from the Warriors game but didn't check the stats afterwards. Sorry you are right, it turns out he was averaging 34 mins a game from the midpoint of the season, not 40-50mins as I had thought. But it's still a good effort for a 19 year old who had no off season.

And if you actually attended the Roosters flogging at Lidcombe or checked the stats you'd realise that Miller was one of the only half decent performers for Wests. In 37 mins, he ran for 117m. The next best output in the forwards was 75m for Tasipale.
 
Kelce68 said:
Who said Miller is still 130kg at this stage of the season?

Those weights are preseason measurements and Miller is a 19 year old kid.

The smart money would be on that figure being wildly different. Personally, whilst he has a long way to go, I reckon he looks much smaller now than February.
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When he ran out it was yes he was 130 kg , on the tv , can only go on what we are told
 
hammertime said:
There are major differences between non-profit directors and private ownership.

They are not private owners. They are debenture holders of a non profit organisation which is run by members. They are just a different classification of a member as they have a sub group of debenture holders.

These debentures not change in value. It's just money parked somewhere. It is not ownership.

So they are simply custodians for the club to help make the best decisions for all members and the community. Again NOT owners who can make decisions based on own self interest.
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Wow. That was awesome!
 
Tiger Stripes said:
Watched the round 25 game. My observations were: Was consistently tackled by 3 players which stopped the off loads.
The next run would not happen for another 5 min. time maybe. Slow in lateral defence. If they didn't run into him they could run past him for others to tackle. He was then able help the others.
He was looking to get involved; but too slow to get in position to receive the ball.
Has lost the tummy fat but slow movements without the ball.
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Just watched Royce Hunts latest game. Came on about 10 mins before half time. Made a few good hit ups then spent a lot of time gassed out the back towards the end of the half.

Lasted about 8 minutes in the second half and was subbed off after looking tired and getting targeted in defence.

I feel like we are the most unfit team in the NRL and adding Hunt only makes that worse. I’d prefer we went after fitter hard workers like Kobe Hetherington.
 
TV Ted Ellery said:
I watched every one of those games aside from the Warriors game but didn't check the stats afterwards. Sorry you are right, it turns out he was averaging 34 mins a game from the midpoint of the season, not 40-50mins as I had thought. But it's still a good effort for a 19 year old who had no off season.

And if you actually attended the Roosters flogging at Lidcombe or checked the stats you'd realise that Miller was one of the only half decent performers for Wests. In 37 mins, he ran for 117m. The next best output in the forwards was 75m for Tasipale.
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Thanks TV Ted.
Trust me if this man has confidence in young Jordan progressing and fulfilling his potential, we should all be confident as along with a few others he watches plenty of our lower grades and is a very astute judge of playing talent 👍
What are your thoughts on the chances of these players below improving enough to become good or better than good standard NRL players;
Faagatu, both Laulilli brothers, Feledy, Saukuru, Sukkar, Matamua, Tumeth if he stays for another season, Hodges, Nicholas and big Herman ?
 
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