Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

The Chad said:
People talk as if teams like the Panthers have some space aged training techniques peopled by humans that relentlessly eat raw meat before hitting the weights for 48 hours straight while drilled by SAS Commandos, learning to fight for every win like John Wick while having philosophical teachings by Yoda playing on the Iphone at night.

Unless the Tigers turn up in thongs, drinking Pasito & scoffing down a Dagwood Dog, before watching videos of Porkies & playing table tennis for a day- I'm going to assume training techniques don't vary THAT much between the good & bad clubs.

Players buying into training though- that's where I think clubs differ. Someone mentioned picking Luai's brain on the importance of friendships developed throughout the club. I'm very willing to believe that this is the Panthers super power. They are not significantly more talented than everyone else. But they ALL turn up, every week, for the guys next to them.

If that is what building a successful club requires- I'd say the Tigers might be doing the right things, with such a strong influx of guys that have played together coming through at the same time. Build the club on mentality, not skills. At this level- they can all play.
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Friend of mine is a mad Penrith fan, and he reckons this is the key. A lot of clubs probably play lipservice to being "family", "brothers" etc. But their bond is genuine. They are best friends who have grown up together, their families and kids are best friends and they are driven by a genuine bond on the field that no other club has. There is also genuine pride about where they are from and the community they represent.

Ofcourse they have the talent to back it up, their training and systems are elite but as you its their mentality and bond that has handed them four premierships.
 
Betterdays22 said:
Friend of mine is a mad Penrith fan, and he reckons this is the key. A lot of clubs probably play lipservice to being "family", "brothers" etc. But their bond is genuine. They are best friends who have grown up together, their families and kids are best friends and they are driven by a genuine bond on the field that no other club has. There is also genuine pride about where they are from and the community they represent.

Ofcourse they have the talent to back it up, their training and systems are elite but as you its their mentality and bond that has handed them four premierships.
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That’s the sport in general. Nobody is forcing you to put your body in harms way. It’s the teams who have made a commitment to each other and live by it that will ultimately be the best. Having weapon forwards like Martin & Yeo is also helpful.

Another point is the timing of Cleary’s injuries. Every year he seems to have about two months off to get ready for finals. I wonder if it’s by design at all.
 
BAGNF05 said:
That’s the sport in general. Nobody is forcing you to put your body in harms way. It’s the teams who have made a commitment to each other and live by it that will ultimately be the best. Having weapon forwards like Martin & Yeo is also helpful.

Another point is the timing of Cleary’s injuries. Every year he seems to have about two months off to get ready for finals. I wonder if it’s by design at all.
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They time their run beautifully every year
 
TSP said:
I thought Tim was originally hired to oversee this program but he nabbed the coaches job and as we can see, with a few exceptions, we remain a hap hazard recruitment club.

Beyond that, we simply don’t have the junior roster and the right staff to recreate a Penrith model.

The reliance on it, it’s another crux at the moment.

Spoonbowl showed up our lack of depth and poor preparation.

It wasnt just a loss, it was a flogging.
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I started a thread on here in Jan 2023 listing our roster positionally to point out the severe lack of depth in certain positions as everyone was stating the arrival of Api and co was about to transform us. There were glaring deficiencies in the front row, halves and centres.

Over the past 2 years, we have solved the halves depth. We’re attempting to solve the centre depth and may have done so. The front row depth is still a big concern. Yes we have lots of names we can throw at it, but they’ve produced three spoons. I really hope our recruitment for the front row has not been finalised for 25.
 
Flippedy said:
Considering the grand final was played just last night and today is a public holiday, I think it might be wise to wait just a little bit longer for any news on the signing front 😂
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I’m just to keen , over hyped for a new lease of life into this club.
we got juniors , we need solid first grader and about 6 min
Luai , Hunt , Bird , Turuva , , 2 more prior to pre season please , get them together early and flog then
 
The Chad said:
Unless the Tigers turn up in thongs, drinking Pasito & scoffing down a Dagwood Dog, before watching videos of Porkies & playing table tennis for a day- I'm going to assume training techniques don't vary THAT much between the good & bad clubs.
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I think you are wrong. What is happening during the week is dictating our results on the weekend.
The Chad said:
Players buying into training though- that's where I think clubs differ. Someone mentioned picking Luai's brain on the importance of friendships developed throughout the club. I'm very willing to believe that this is the Panthers super power. They are not significantly more talented than everyone else. But they ALL turn up, every week, for the guys next to them.
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This has been fostered through years of playing together in the pathways. They grew up together. They created a gang like mentality of us v you in every sense. If you remember the 2020 season, the whole RL world hated them for the way they carried on.
The Chad said:
If that is what building a successful club requires- I'd say the Tigers might be doing the right things, with such a strong influx of guys that have played together coming through at the same time. Build the club on mentality, not skills. At this level- they can all play.
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This is true, but is not a quick fix. You also do need skill levels and game management levels to increase along with footy IQ.
It sounds to me like you are angling towards “we are not far off”.
That’s bullshit and wet stinky stuff at that.
 
TSP said:
It will be interesting to see how they go next year without JL. I think they they miss him more than they realise.
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We all thought the same when Kikau, Critta, Api, Leniu left 😭 I agree that Luai is a huge loss but Blaize Talagi is a special talent replacing him
 
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Tucker said:
I think you are wrong. What is happening during the week is dictating our results on the weekend.
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Our training has been a 'long' way off - Forever!!
It's as obvious a bunker Blunder to anyone who actually watches a full game.

Basically every player that debuted here, and then left has mentioned how much fitter the new team was and how much more intense the Training.
Aaron Woods left here the prop of the year, Playing for State and Country - Got to the battling Dogs and was shown up to be soft in the Gym - has spoken on it more than once.... His words were
"I didn't know any different" (Or words to that effect)....

Joel Caine talks about how it was here in the early days
- They were just happy to have a contract. Often laments about what he might have done if he'd applied himself better - It's engrained in the joint - Decades old.

Remember the last CEO mentioned our training is in line with the Metrics put out by the NRL....
Who wants to be me that the Top 4 Clubs training well exceeds those metrics - On a permanent basis?

There's been stories over the years of the likes of Bellamy and Bennett (back in the day) Leading the road runs with the team - Never heard anything remotely like that here.
- Only that our coach (a 40yr old former half) is chopping us up at training!!

That's a problem in itself, How hard and fast are the opposed sessions when the bloke leading them (And chopping up) is the 40 year old coach?
They're practising playing 2 hand touch for giggles is my bet.

Luai may be the difference....
I'm hoping he doesn't get here and fall into Benji Ball Bro Culture though...
 
Clearly and Maguire both have coached at this club and would have implemented the standards that they believe necessary for success. I still believe the quality and attitude of individual players sets the standards on and off the field. Great players do the extras to be great and putting in the extras is an attitude. Until you get a squad where that is general consensus a coach is always going struggle.
 
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