Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

crazycat said:
Well said,
I totally agree, we need a halfback and we have 2 5/8's...

Thinking about it, why dinnit this work for us before Josh Reynolds + Benji?
The answer is Luai actually cares about defense and we have a backline to back that up. Benji seemed to take the 5/8 spot from Reynolds and I know Reynolds as a tackler WAS a great defender at the dogs...
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The truth is Reynolds was an impulse buy and he was crap.

Benji needed to take ownership.
 
tigerfan59 said:
Sorry if this has already been mentioned.Daily telegraph reporting the Sharks got an apology from the NRL because they should have been awarded a golden point penalty because the ref and the bunker did pick up Alex Seyfarth was not square.Nobody cares when the same stuff happens to us every week
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If they got an apology for that we must have been sent compensation payments for the Pole sin bin as that was up there with the NQ penalty for obstruction as far as terrible decisions. Liam Kennedy screwed us when he was the ref and did it the next week in the bunker. He is up there with Kasey Badger for Bunker blunders.

Not sure the Telegraph would be correct, however would not waste a cent on buying it to read.
 
Sully said:
If they got an apology for that we must have been sent compensation payments for the Pole sin bin as that was up there with the NQ penalty for obstruction as far as terrible decisions. Liam Kennedy screwed us when he was the ref and did it the next week in the bunker. He is up there with Kasey Badger for Bunker blunders.

Not sure the Telegraph would be correct, however would not waste a cent on buying it to read.
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could be worse could be SMH
 
Spartan117 said:
The truth is Reynolds was an impulse buy and he was crap.

Benji needed to take ownership.
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I don't think J Reynolds was. I honestly think he was a culture buy... Yes Benji and Reynolds needed to sort and take ownership. .... I guess my point is why is Luai working and JR did not work:

Luai takes ownership!
Luai organises the defense and heck we got a long way to go but were actually semi-decent now.
Luai also brings a stack of culture with him, which I think we were hoping Reynolds would bring*... We see how people aim up now, how they have pride. This is Luai's doing.... I don't think we have seen this since Cleary was here.

Credit to Skelton and Turuva... They make us far more competitive then we were before. Both have strong defense (Turuva surprisingly so) and both can cross the line. I think because they can be trusted as wingman, our centers have improved because they don't need to move out to cover.

*I do recognise the shift with Marshall and Farah coming back, Reynolds could have thought he was "overshadowed".... Or he could have always been just a little crap riding on some great teammates. Meh, my point is Luai is just damn awesome... Reynolds/Galvin who?
 
Jolls said:
Great explanation - I would add that with eyes up footy the backrowers need to be running lines that can be hit when the playmakers see something. Think the Kickau/Luai combination at the Riff.

As easy as it sounds the timing is often the issue - and why it has taken several rounds for Sam F to be coming good with Luai. It is simialar on the other side of the paddock with Galvin, but the edge relationship with Seyfarth is not developing. Too sideways and ball too early for the most part.

Definitely looking forward to seeing how well Latu comes on when his thumb heals!
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We need a bigger second rower in Seyfarth's spot to improve the forward pack his defense is OK but he doesn't have much in attack in fact most of the time he bounces off the defense like a rubber ball and loses ground, no power game, bench spot best position.
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
We need a bigger second rower in Seyfarth's spot to improve the forward pack his defense is OK but he doesn't have much in attack in fact most of the time he bounces off the defense like a rubber ball and loses ground, no power game, bench spot best position.
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While I agree that there are better players out there that we should be looking at he is what we have. The problem is that Galvin isn't using him right. If Seyfarth can't make holes you have to put him in them and that my friend is the responsibility of the playmaker.

Galvin is not an edge, but when he swings around off Luai, Luia straightens the play to engage the inside shoulder of a defender and then the pass is held up long enough for Galvin to hit the gap to try an enable a break/half break or offload. If you look at the first try agaisnt Cronulla last week it was done perfectly - the defender turns in as he straightens, Galvin gets hit as he hits the line and the ball is passed to Sam F in the clear. This doesn't happen on the other edge.

So what should be happening, to support Seyfarth to support him, is either:
  • Galvin straightens/right foot step to engage the inside shoulder of the defender and dig into the line delivering the ball flat, at the ad line; or
  • Seyfarth is deeper and given a target to run at (eg opposition 5/8) and Galvin shifts the player left; or right by fading/step and delivers an off the hip pop to put him into the gap; or
  • uses Seyfarth as decoy and fires a face ball or double pump to give Toa more time; or
  • at worst case, if there are no options, he delivers the ball early so Seyfarth can be monstered by his larger opposition (ie do what he is doing now).
This is a shared problem on that edge. Seyfarth may not be running the best lines, or have his timing quite right, but at the same time Galvin isn't doing his job of creating options for him. If Galvin wants the big $ for being a playmaker he needs to be doing the basics of his role for his edge.

I'll give him credit; he is giving his outside backs good ball but they are making the most of it mainly through their strength and skill not though Galvin's cunning. He is also all over the park - but I would prefer more quality from him than quantity. He still has a lot to learn before he is worth anywhere near $1M a season. He will only get the money based on potential - not output.
 
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Jolls said:
Galvin is not an edge, but when he swings around off Luai the play is strightened to engage the inside should of a defender and then the pass held up long enough for Galvin to hit the gap to try an enable a break/half break or offload. If you look at the first try agaisnt Cronulla last week it was done perfectly - the defender turns in as he straightens, Galvin gets hit as he hits the line and the ball is passed to Sam F in the clear. This doesn't happen on the other edge.
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Luai also laid the groundwork for the Turuva try by planting his feet for a split second before still speedily getting a long pass to Galvin. Only a relatively minor action, yet enough to keep their left edge defensive line from sliding momentarily which allowed the whole edge to remain on the outside shoulder throughout the play.
 
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Jolls said:
While I agree that there are better players out there that we should be looking at he is what we have. The problem is that Galvin isn't using him right. If Seyfarth can't make holes you have to put him in them and that my friend is the responsibility of the playmaker.

Galvin is not an edge, but when he swings around off Luai, Luia straightens the play to engage the inside should of a defender and then the pass is held up long enough for Galvin to hit the gap to try an enable a break/half break or offload. If you look at the first try agaisnt Cronulla last week it was done perfectly - the defender turns in as he straightens, Galvin gets hit as he hits the line and the ball is passed to Sam F in the clear. This doesn't happen on the other edge.

So what should be happening, to support Seyfarth to support him, is either:
  • Galvin straightens/right foot step to engage the inside shoulder of the defender and dig into the line delivering the ball flat, at the ad line; or
  • Seyfarth is deeper and given a target to run at (eg opposition 5/8) and Galvin shifts the player left; or right by fading/step and delivers an off the hip pop to put him into the gap; or
  • uses Seyfarth as decoy and fires a face ball or double pump to give Toa more time; or
  • at worst case, if there are no options, he delivers the ball early so Seyfarth can be monstered by his larger opposition (ie do what he is doing now).
This is a shared problem on that edge. Seyfarth may not be running the best lines, or have his timing quite right, but at the same time Galvin isn't doing his job of creating options for him. If Galvin wants the big $ for being a playmaker he needs to be doing the basics of his role for his edge.

I'll give him credit; he is giving his outside backs good ball but they are making the most of it mainly through their strength and skill not though Galvin's cunning. He is also all over the park - but I would prefer more quality from him than quantity. He still has a lot to learn before he is worth anywhere near $1M a season. He will only get the money based on potential - not output.
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Nice post Jolls in fact your footy IQ is killing me, have nothing to add to improve.
As for Seyfarths's position I have a gut feeling one of the signings that Richo was talking about will be right side 2RF, our weakness points to that.
 
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