Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Aceshigh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064649) said:
@OzLuke make the bloke honour his contract i say , surely shouldn’t be in contention for the Blues if he and his manager have a greedy turn coat attitude

very true, but being an ex rooster and fittler at the helm might allow a few leniencies
 
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064642) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064638) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064622) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064621) said:
There’s a player merry go round getting ready to crank methinks. All these players, Walker, Matterson, Bird, Arrow. It’s coming.

but with our squad, why would arrow be the difference? He would essentially swap with Matto, and we would still be in the same spot just with different cattle....

But Arrow and Matto? Starting to look good.....

Agree

But thinking about the swap

Matterson may be after money but if we having nothing to offer Matto to try and keep him than how do we get Arrow

He'd be after big dollars as well

Unless we do have the money and Matto wants out regardless

so apart from cash what do we offer? is that the sort of player we want? I highly doubt it because that wouldn't be hooking into the culture of what they appear to be trying to do

We are on a hiding to nothing
 
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064655) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064642) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064638) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064622) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064621) said:
There’s a player merry go round getting ready to crank methinks. All these players, Walker, Matterson, Bird, Arrow. It’s coming.

but with our squad, why would arrow be the difference? He would essentially swap with Matto, and we would still be in the same spot just with different cattle....

But Arrow and Matto? Starting to look good.....

Agree

But thinking about the swap

Matterson may be after money but if we having nothing to offer Matto to try and keep him than how do we get Arrow

He'd be after big dollars as well

Unless we do have the money and Matto wants out regardless

so apart from cash what do we offer? is that the sort of player we want? I highly doubt it because that wouldn't be hooking into the culture of what they appear to be trying to do

We are on a hiding to nothing


As always ...
What’s new ?
 
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064657) said:
I rate Matto very highly, but I could live with a swap with Arrow.


Big upgrade. We will end up with Kevin Proctor.
 
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064657) said:
I rate Matto very highly, but I could live with a swap with Arrow.

Arrow's probably slightly better but you're going from $350K/year over the next 2 years for Matterson to probably $750K+/year over the next 2 years for Arrow. Not a good way to keep the books in balance...
 
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064664) said:
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064657) said:
I rate Matto very highly, but I could live with a swap with Arrow.

Arrow's probably slightly better but you're going from $350K/year over the next 2 years for Matterson to probably $750K+/year over the next 2 years for Arrow. Not a good way to keep the books in balance...

True, but if they were to take someone else of our hands also....
 
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064664) said:
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064657) said:
I rate Matto very highly, but I could live with a swap with Arrow.

Arrow's probably slightly better but you're going from $350K/year over the next 2 years for Matterson to probably $750K+/year over the next 2 years for Arrow. Not a good way to keep the books in balance...

Why would Titans swap? Matterson 425k next year for Arrow 800k (offer from GC).

Would we pay the 375k Diff???
 
This is my hot take !
Only really clever RL insiders saw this Matto season coming . And whilst he did play well all year , I would argue , our late season resurgence, was also largely in part to another 2nd rowers return to 1st grade .
And huge leaps in defence .
He is a great footballer, but honestly , do it for 2 -3 seasons . Then we will talk about 750k. Even packer , and Reynolds despite their flaws , have an actual resume to justify that pay .
God even Chricton played origin last year .
I actually had bigger hopes for Musgrove and Mikalele this year. And I think Aloai , could be the 13 . He was great this year .
Whilst the yardage work was great , was he like wade graham , turning the team on its head when he came back ? Or Fifita running holes through the middle @ 19 ? Or JT carrying the whole of NQ on his back. Or Trobojevic , inspiring his team .God even Nathan Brown lifted his team when he was there.
It would suck to lose him for sure , but I actually think garner, next to a brooks then , say Scott or Lomax would be cooking with gas .
I feel like Matto can be replaced .
That’s my hot take , come at me !! Haha
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064679) said:
This is my hot take !
Only really clever RL insiders saw this Matto season coming . And whilst he did play well all year , I would argue , our late season resurgence, was also largely in part to another 2nd rowers return to 1st grade .
And huge leaps in defence .
He is a great footballer, but honestly , do it for 2 -3 seasons . Then we will talk about 750k. Even packer , and Reynolds despite their flaws , have an actual resume to justify that pay .
God even Chricton played origin last year .
I actually had bigger hopes for Musgrove and Mikalele this year. And I think Aloai , could be the 13 . He was great this year .
Whilst the yardage work was great , was he like wade graham , turning the team on its head when he came back ? Or Fifita running holes through the middle @ 19 ? Or JT carrying the whole of NQ on his back. Or Trobojevic , inspiring his team .God even Nathan Brown lifted his team when he was there.
It would suck to lose him for sure , but I actually think garner, next to a brooks then , say Scott or Lomax would be cooking with gas .
I feel like Matto can be replaced .
That’s my hot take , come at me !! Haha

Yes, but the idea was to have them both.

Let him go and then you have to find someone as good to actually come here.
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064681) said:
How come the signing of Billy Walters hasn't been announced? He's confirmed it himself via Instagram story (Clarkey's NRL Column Q & A) that he'll be here next year.

Madge confirmed it on FOX, said he will probably play 9
 
My simplistic solution.

Tell him he is not getting a release & not getting an upgrade. Any contact from his manager around potential player swaps indicate that another club is making offers to a player that is off limits until November next year & spill straight to the media.

Wait and see what the NRL does & if nothing, start making open media statements around how we are willing to pay other promising players twice as much as they are currently on if they can get out of their contract.
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064681) said:
How come the signing of Billy Walters hasn't been announced? He's confirmed it himself via Instagram story (Clarkey's NRL Column Q & A) that he'll be here next year.


Mate my only reasoning is that there’s a lot of big things happening with staff at WT and there not bothering updating us on anything.
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064681) said:
How come the signing of Billy Walters hasn't been announced? He's confirmed it himself via Instagram story (Clarkey's NRL Column Q & A) that he'll be here next year.


Been a backlog due to staff shortages at head office
 
@Strongee Matterson is replaceable and if he doesn't want to be here we can trade him for a couple of young superstars. If Cleary want him, I'd take the young 5/8 Burton and one other player like Burns as compensation. The other option of course is to make him play out his contract.
 
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064663) said:
@Masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064657) said:
I rate Matto very highly, but I could live with a swap with Arrow.


Big upgrade. We will end up with Kevin Proctor.

Scary how likely that is...somehow we will end up with Proctor and James Tomau and Madge saying these blokes 'have the attitude we want........'

It would be so 'us'.
 
Given current events forget everyone who is talented and off contract and just recruit guys who are hungry and want to add to the culture we are building. I trust Maguire to do just that.
 
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064619) said:
If we can get Arrow let him go to the GC

If he thought playing under Madge was tough let's see how he likes being the only player on the field

It would put pay to the "carrying an excessive load" theory wouldn't it?

This might be another Cleary-Madge job, where we get dragged across the coals but actually end up with someone better. I honestly think Jai Arrow has more upside than Matto, though I don't want to lose Matto.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1064626) said:
God knows why any player from this club would want to go and play under Cleary after the way Cleary dogged them when he left.

"No, babe, it will be different this time, I promise you."
 

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