Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Jedi_Tiger]

Widdop if he stays fit would be perfect with Brooks and goalkicks

 

[Aesopian]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

Is there a "Man of Butter" award?

I'd nominate Tui

 

[JC99]

Maguire needs to address why Cleary could get the best out of Brooks but he appears to be unable to do it?

If Seizer and Hastings are serious options as our half I would question the path we are being taken down after the Joey Leilua and Jennings acquisitions.

This is a good point. Unless we solve the issue of why our halves are performing so poorly under the current coach and structure, it really won't matter who we sign.

Could start with giving them some go forward with the pack. No halves could perform well behind our current pack. They lift for one week and then go missing for three. There is a serious lack of physicality in our boys.

They've been killed the last two weeks but prior to that we've had multiple games this year where our pack has held their own. Even in games where we've won the battle in the middle, our halves have been ordinary. That's why Maguire has played a million combos - nothing is working.

That's what I mean Avo we can't seem to handle the weekly grind and our go forward has not been a problem just this year it was the same under Cleary - because it use to drive me nuts. Our halves are on a hiding to nothing who ever they are until we get some big mobile bodies who can get us our of our own half without relying on Nofo taking up two of the hit ups. Might be wrong but our success rate for scoring is pretty good in the oppositions zone we just don't get there often enough.

It would help if our halves kicking games were up to a decent standard. Those 2 early 7 tackle sets that Benji conceded by kicking it dead were deplorable. At worst the opposition would scoop it up 1 mtr out and we’d pressure them with defence. Kicking it dead is the worst possible result.

As it was, the forwards had to scramble and back peddle 80m a couple of times which took the legs out of them. No energy left to attack with ball in hand and it kind of snowballed from there.

Same with our bombs & attacking kicks from around halfway. Hardly any hit the turf or were directed away from the FB. Those extra 3-5 seconds when the ball is bouncing cuts the FB’s run back mtrs considerably.

Doesn’t seem to be much of a plan with the kicking game apart from hoping the back 3 drop a bomb every now and then

Continually kicking the ball dead and not finding the grass off our kicks is killing us. The big fellas can only do so much work until they’re buggered and it’s been months of it now.

Yeah it’s garbage time when it comes to our 5th tackle options.

Can’t remember the last time they mixed it up during a game. Something different like an early chip & chase to get the FB spooked so he creeps up a bit then follow it up with a few long ones towards the corners. Keep them guessing and out of rhythm.

As it stands they know exactly what’s coming by simply watching last weeks tape

Last year brooks and Benji were finding repeat sets constantly especially brooks. This year they just can’t get it right! No idea what’s happened.

 

[TieDye]

Maguire needs to address why Cleary could get the best out of Brooks but he appears to be unable to do it?

If Seizer and Hastings are serious options as our half I would question the path we are being taken down after the Joey Leilua and Jennings acquisitions.

This is a good point. Unless we solve the issue of why our halves are performing so poorly under the current coach and structure, it really won't matter who we sign.

Could start with giving them some go forward with the pack. No halves could perform well behind our current pack. They lift for one week and then go missing for three. There is a serious lack of physicality in our boys.

They've been killed the last two weeks but prior to that we've had multiple games this year where our pack has held their own. Even in games where we've won the battle in the middle, our halves have been ordinary. That's why Maguire has played a million combos - nothing is working.

That's what I mean Avo we can't seem to handle the weekly grind and our go forward has not been a problem just this year it was the same under Cleary - because it use to drive me nuts. Our halves are on a hiding to nothing who ever they are until we get some big mobile bodies who can get us our of our own half without relying on Nofo taking up two of the hit ups. Might be wrong but our success rate for scoring is pretty good in the oppositions zone we just don't get there often enough.

It would help if our halves kicking games were up to a decent standard. Those 2 early 7 tackle sets that Benji conceded by kicking it dead were deplorable. At worst the opposition would scoop it up 1 mtr out and we’d pressure them with defence. Kicking it dead is the worst possible result.

As it was, the forwards had to scramble and back peddle 80m a couple of times which took the legs out of them. No energy left to attack with ball in hand and it kind of snowballed from there.

Same with our bombs & attacking kicks from around halfway. Hardly any hit the turf or were directed away from the FB. Those extra 3-5 seconds when the ball is bouncing cuts the FB’s run back mtrs considerably.

Doesn’t seem to be much of a plan with the kicking game apart from hoping the back 3 drop a bomb every now and then

Continually kicking the ball dead and not finding the grass off our kicks is killing us. The big fellas can only do so much work until they’re buggered and it’s been months of it now.

Yeah it’s garbage time when it comes to our 5th tackle options.

Can’t remember the last time they mixed it up during a game. Something different like an early chip & chase to get the FB spooked so he creeps up a bit then follow it up with a few long ones towards the corners. Keep them guessing and out of rhythm.

As it stands they know exactly what’s coming by simply watching last weeks tape

Last year brooks and Benji were finding repeat sets constantly especially brooks. This year they just can’t get it right! No idea what’s happened.

Refereeing and rule changes.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Maguire needs to address why Cleary could get the best out of Brooks but he appears to be unable to do it?

If Seizer and Hastings are serious options as our half I would question the path we are being taken down after the Joey Leilua and Jennings acquisitions.

This is a good point. Unless we solve the issue of why our halves are performing so poorly under the current coach and structure, it really won't matter who we sign.

Could start with giving them some go forward with the pack. No halves could perform well behind our current pack. They lift for one week and then go missing for three. There is a serious lack of physicality in our boys.

They've been killed the last two weeks but prior to that we've had multiple games this year where our pack has held their own. Even in games where we've won the battle in the middle, our halves have been ordinary. That's why Maguire has played a million combos - nothing is working.

That's what I mean Avo we can't seem to handle the weekly grind and our go forward has not been a problem just this year it was the same under Cleary - because it use to drive me nuts. Our halves are on a hiding to nothing who ever they are until we get some big mobile bodies who can get us our of our own half without relying on Nofo taking up two of the hit ups. Might be wrong but our success rate for scoring is pretty good in the oppositions zone we just don't get there often enough.

It would help if our halves kicking games were up to a decent standard. Those 2 early 7 tackle sets that Benji conceded by kicking it dead were deplorable. At worst the opposition would scoop it up 1 mtr out and we’d pressure them with defence. Kicking it dead is the worst possible result.

As it was, the forwards had to scramble and back peddle 80m a couple of times which took the legs out of them. No energy left to attack with ball in hand and it kind of snowballed from there.

Same with our bombs & attacking kicks from around halfway. Hardly any hit the turf or were directed away from the FB. Those extra 3-5 seconds when the ball is bouncing cuts the FB’s run back mtrs considerably.

Doesn’t seem to be much of a plan with the kicking game apart from hoping the back 3 drop a bomb every now and then

Continually kicking the ball dead and not finding the grass off our kicks is killing us. The big fellas can only do so much work until they’re buggered and it’s been months of it now.

Yeah it’s garbage time when it comes to our 5th tackle options.

Can’t remember the last time they mixed it up during a game. Something different like an early chip & chase to get the FB spooked so he creeps up a bit then follow it up with a few long ones towards the corners. Keep them guessing and out of rhythm.

As it stands they know exactly what’s coming by simply watching last weeks tape

Last year brooks and Benji were finding repeat sets constantly especially brooks. This year they just can’t get it right! No idea what’s happened.

The club has to learn the difference between being brilliant sometimes amd being consistently good.

 

[TillLindemann]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

it's a bloody good video

 

[Snake]

Our forwards are cooked because they’re doing all the work. Even when we are winning games, it’s because the forwards are carrying us. Our halves do nothing to take pressure off our big men in every game and we are often under pressure defending our own line in majority of games especially in the close games vs top teams. If we had halves who could maintain field position and pressure we would not struggle as much up the middle.

Well said everybody complains about BJ not making breaks , all the halves do is run across the field and jam the Centers and wingers they have no chance . The halves do not engage the line they constantly run across the field . Good ball is the key the halves are the issue IMO , the sooner Brooks is gone and Benji retires and new halves are brought into the team the better !

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

it's a bloody good video

Imagine big Lucy running off him inside the 20 like that big bopper in the video

 

[Guest]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

it's a bloody good video

Imagine big Lucy running off him inside the 20 like that big bopper in the video

Soft hands with a lot of his passes, I like that for the hole runners.

 

[teddy23]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

Call me a hater but is it just me or did the only thing the video do was reconfirm to myself on how poor the quality of football the super league is in comparison to the NRL....

The defence and tackling looked terrible lol he was just bumping off and slipping out of tackles like nothing I doubt he’d be able to do that in the NRL.... wasn’t Zak Hadaker a man of steel once upon a time too

I’d prefer to sign a proven halfback who’s showed he can play in the NRL - players like Seizer, Foran and Widdop.... not an unproven NRL player in Hastings that’s the last thing we need, we should be targeting an experienced halfback to guide the team around

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Our forwards are cooked because they’re doing all the work. Even when we are winning games, it’s because the forwards are carrying us. Our halves do nothing to take pressure off our big men in every game and we are often under pressure defending our own line in majority of games especially in the close games vs top teams. If we had halves who could maintain field position and pressure we would not struggle as much up the middle.

Johns a few weeks ago said we would not make the 8 due to style/game-plan we use as it is not sustainable.

As long as Benji is in the team, we will always be going for hail Mary plays and have no real game management (Brooks just as much to blame). It's all he knows and we forget all his faults after 1 or 2 miracle plays.

He didn't mention the halves, it was clear he meant game plan.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

it's a bloody good video

Imagine big Lucy running off him inside the 20 like that big bopper in the video

He's been to two/three NRL clubs and is now in the UK SL. Obviously two fair coaches have had him. They've believed him when he showed them whom he is. So what can you see from that clip that Robinson and Barrett didn't from their personal interactions?


I just saw Nathan Brown up the street, he looked happy as he should.

 

[TillLindemann]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

Call me a hater but is it just me or did the only thing the video do was reconfirm to myself on how poor the quality of football the super league is in comparison to the NRL....

The defence and tackling looked terrible lol he was just bumping off and slipping out of tackles like nothing I doubt he’d be able to do that in the NRL.... wasn’t Zak Hadaker a man of steel once upon a time too

I’d prefer to sign a proven halfback who’s showed he can play in the NRL - players like Seizer, Foran and Widdop.... not an unproven NRL player in Hastings that’s the last thing we need, we should be targeting an experienced halfback to guide the team around

In the Super League he played alongside two former Tiger NRL players - Tui and Robert Lui - and was head and shoulders above both of them.

 

[Rowdy12]

I just watched Hastings highlights

That defence is honestly disgusting, Luke Brooks would look like an absolute god playing over there

Approach with a LOT of caution

 

[851]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

Call me a hater but is it just me or did the only thing the video do was reconfirm to myself on how poor the quality of football the super league is in comparison to the NRL....

The defence and tackling looked terrible lol he was just bumping off and slipping out of tackles like nothing I doubt he’d be able to do that in the NRL.... wasn’t Zak Hadaker a man of steel once upon a time too

I’d prefer to sign a proven halfback who’s showed he can play in the NRL - players like Seizer, Foran and Widdop.... not an unproven NRL player in Hastings that’s the last thing we need, we should be targeting an experienced halfback to guide the team around

In the Super League he played alongside two former Tiger NRL players - Tui and Robert Lui - and was head and shoulders above both of them.

Spot on, as well as George Williams who is a better half than anything we have, he got run out of Manly because they had to back DCE, all is not as it seems, he is better than what we have, and is only 24

 

[Cairnstigers]

Maguire needs to address why Cleary could get the best out of Brooks but he appears to be unable to do it?

If Seizer and Hastings are serious options as our half I would question the path we are being taken down after the Joey Leilua and Jennings acquisitions.

This is a good point. Unless we solve the issue of why our halves are performing so poorly under the current coach and structure, it really won't matter who we sign.

Could start with giving them some go forward with the pack. No halves could perform well behind our current pack. They lift for one week and then go missing for three. There is a serious lack of physicality in our boys.

They've been killed the last two weeks but prior to that we've had multiple games this year where our pack has held their own. Even in games where we've won the battle in the middle, our halves have been ordinary. That's why Maguire has played a million combos - nothing is working.

Andrew Jones on 9 said we wouldn't make the 8. He believed our style of football could not be physically sustained. So really we can only buy so many forwards under the salary cap. Time for a different game plan.

Ikin last night said we looked 'cooked'. I agree with him.

As in Toast or Filet Mignon

 

[dazza65]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

it's a bloody good video

Imagine big Lucy running off him inside the 20 like that big bopper in the video

He's been to two/three NRL clubs and is now in the UK SL. Obviously two fair coaches have had him. They've believed him when he showed them whom he is. So what can you see from that clip that Robinson and Barrett didn't from their personal interactions?


I just saw Nathan Brown up the street, he looked happy as he should.

Maturity maybe.....?

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

JACKSON HASTINGS 2019 MAN OF STEEL
https://youtu.be/IIkQJaRRAkM

it's a bloody good video

Imagine big Lucy running off him inside the 20 like that big bopper in the video

He's been to two/three NRL clubs and is now in the UK SL. Obviously two fair coaches have had him. They've believed him when he showed them whom he is. So what can you see from that clip that Robinson and Barrett didn't from their personal interactions?


I just saw Nathan Brown up the street, he looked happy as he should.

He has improved out of sight since getting out of Aus the incumbents at the clubs you mentioned played apart in him going overseas and it looks like it was a good move.Winning the 2019 MOS award would have boosted he's confidence and I feel he has unfinished business in the NRL his dad was a tough no frills player and legend at the Rorters and I would say he is a similar type.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I just watched Hastings highlights

That defence is honestly disgusting, Luke Brooks would look like an absolute god playing over there

Approach with a LOT of caution

Terrible wasn't it. Looked like a training session.

 

[Sart0ri]

The Hasting highlights look pretty ordinary to me, he mostly just passes to someone that breaks the line by themselves, but he did support well.