Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211924) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211879) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211878) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?



@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

To be fair our wingers are scoring a pretty decent amount. Nofa 13 Talau 5 tries in 9 games.

So why are we replacing them?

We aren’t replacing Nofa and Talau is gonna move to centre.

The post I was responding too was talking about having speedy wingers on both wings.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211931) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211919) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211913) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211907) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211904) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211901) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211896) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211894) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211893) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211882) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211881) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Really?

I thought our forwards need to provide the platform for the halves to operate?

But in any case, we have Brooks, Madden, Momerovski, Talau, Kei, Kepaoa who are all very capable and. We will read more about. Mbye can do it as well when he wants it. I am sure more buys are on the way.

and 4 weeks ago everyone was happy with our forwards? We need to do much more than sign 2 wingers. We need at least a quality half and fullback in the backs

Here's my theory; Twal is carrying a significant injury. I believe others may have significant injuries as well. But we have Stefano joining us and Blore, both are very highly credentialed junior rep players. Bunty Afoa may join us from the Warriors. I believe he will be good for us.

We lack genuine pace in the backline. A strong centre is fine (as the Storm have shown with Olam) but the centres need to be paired with fast wingers. JAC and Saab are the players we need to finsih on breaks made anywhere on the field.

As I said we need a half and a fullback to create those breaks, we have so many centres it is not funny.

Doueihi is a fine fullback. He played well last night injured. Imagine him. fit.

Reece Walsh is the fullback we should be, if we haven't already targeted.

As for halves, you want to buy Foran at 30. odd? Not much out there so I prefer Madden. We have good quality young halves.

Doueihi is a safe fullback, that is his biggest asset, he doesn't make mistakes. H e has an ok but inconsistent passing game and his running style makes him difficult to run off. Wehn he goes to the line he uses the good footwork he has to beat tackles, bu that footwork makes it difficult to time running off him.

He's had a handful of games at the back. I believe you are being very harsh.

Not being harsh at all, I think he is an excellent footballer, just believe he is a much better centre than fullback.

Ok - we agree to disagree.

However I would like you to answer my question of AD's replacement at FB.

That's the issue we have isn't it, that's why we need to have a better plan moving forward instead of being so reactionary. At this point in time I don't think there is a better option, but half the forum is talking of moving AD to 5/8th

Unless you have a better FB than AD - it is useless to talk about moving him anywhere (I wouldn't anyway).

However I do think after a full pre-season with us (his first), overcoming any injury niggles he may have I think he will improve immensely. Might add he would go even better with the other three players in the spine being stable would help him running off them (every week it's just about different).

I agree but half the forum want him at 5/8th, he is the best option we have for fullback next year, I just believe he is a better centre than anything else..

I actually like him as a footballer.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

He does what the team needs him to do,

1. His height and size are more useful than Mbyes.
2. In defence Mbye is usually a stronger defender important in the centres.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211937) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!

That doesn't make much sense, you don't move your fullback to centre so a useless player can have a go at fullback.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211940) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

He does what the team needs him to do,

1. His height and size are more useful than Mbyes.
2. In defence Mbye is usually a stronger defender important in the centres.

Yes but if Doueihi is viewed as our permanent fullback, why are we constantly moving him from there in games?
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211942) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211937) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!

That doesn't make much sense, you don't move your fullback to centre so a useless player can have a go at fullback.

Yes it does if you have Mbye.

He does nothing in the centre with the ball so you move AD in to do something.

Whilst you have the ball you move Mbye to FB because he won't drop the catch.

When you don't have the ball, you switch back, and hope Mbye doesn't run in and give them tries (which he did again).
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211937) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!

Well, it does give Douhei's legs a rest also.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211945) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211940) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

He does what the team needs him to do,

1. His height and size are more useful than Mbyes.
2. In defence Mbye is usually a stronger defender important in the centres.

Yes but if Doueihi is viewed as our permanent fullback, why are we constantly moving him from there in games?

In soccer, you often bring your centre back up into the penalty area for corners or free kicks to utilise their height. Douehis' height, size and ability to ball play is useful.

Here's another reason, having players switch between positions also provides them with a greater appreciation of the game, strategy and demands of different positions. It may well be in the future he may be required to switch to centre during a game.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211949) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211942) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211937) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!

That doesn't make much sense, you don't move your fullback to centre so a useless player can have a go at fullback.

Yes it does if you have Mbye.

He does nothing in the centre with the ball so you move AD in to do something.

Whilst you have the ball you move Mbye to FB because he won't drop the catch.

When you don't have the ball, you switch back, and hope Mbye doesn't run in and give them tries (which he did again).

That is not the reason, our attack flows much better with Mbye playing that linking role than it does with Doueihi, that is not an attak on Doueihi, he is a great player, he just has one of those awkward running styles.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211954) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211945) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211940) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

He does what the team needs him to do,

1. His height and size are more useful than Mbyes.
2. In defence Mbye is usually a stronger defender important in the centres.

Yes but if Doueihi is viewed as our permanent fullback, why are we constantly moving him from there in games?

In soccer, you often bring your centre back up into the penalty area for corners or free kicks to utilise their height. Douehis' height, size and ability to ball play is useful.

Fullbacks do more ball playing than centres though? He runs a very good line, but that is also why I view him as a centre.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211955) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211949) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211942) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211937) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!

That doesn't make much sense, you don't move your fullback to centre so a useless player can have a go at fullback.

Yes it does if you have Mbye.

He does nothing in the centre with the ball so you move AD in to do something.

Whilst you have the ball you move Mbye to FB because he won't drop the catch.

When you don't have the ball, you switch back, and hope Mbye doesn't run in and give them tries (which he did again).

That is not the reason, our attack flows much better with Mbye playing that linking role than it does with Doueihi, that is not an attak on Doueihi, he is a great player, he just has one of those awkward running styles.

Disagree..... Mbye should not be anywhere near the 17.

If you had a decent centre you wouldn't need to move AD.

By the way, those long cut out passes seem to flow ok to me.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211958) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211954) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211945) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211940) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

He does what the team needs him to do,

1. His height and size are more useful than Mbyes.
2. In defence Mbye is usually a stronger defender important in the centres.

Yes but if Doueihi is viewed as our permanent fullback, why are we constantly moving him from there in games?

In soccer, you often bring your centre back up into the penalty area for corners or free kicks to utilise their height. Douehis' height, size and ability to ball play is useful.

Fullbacks do more ball playing than centres though? He runs a very good line, but that is also why I view him as a centre.

Fullbacks are second 5/8s just as an inside centre in rugby is a second stand off.

Doueihi does possess a huge long distance kicking game it would be useful to use that next year for chasers when we have more pace.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211961) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211955) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211949) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211942) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211937) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211935) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211933) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211927) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211923) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211873) said:
@Earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211870) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211867) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211863) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211849) said:
JAC will be a good signing, but far from a game changer.

Agreed, but his status and professionalism will rub off on the young players. The young guys will watch in the dressing sheds as he prepares himself. Being a hard trainer, there will be no short cuts. This is very important for our young players.

Finally, having genuine pace hopefully on both wings will revert our playing style to the open attacking style we are known for in RL.

Who are these attacking players to create space for those speedy wingers?

Luciano creates space. Talau might slot into the left centre spot. AD is starting to look very good.

AD is a centre, Luciano is a second rower, both are good players, LL is a great player but we really need to find a half from somewhere.

AD can play a number of positions. He plays fullback for us because that is where the team needs him to play. I certainly do not agree he is a better centre than he is a fullback.

Mate he is an out and out centre that is playing fullback because Mbye can't catch as well. Madge even sees this which is why he and Mbye swap in attack 7 or 8 times a game.

You're entitled to that view but why try and fix something that is not broken? Joey Leilua is a bigger issue. I cannot wait for Momerovski to return. He's just a smart footballer.

Why is he constantly being moved to centre in attack throughout the game? it happened at least 5 times last night.

Simples - because Mbye is absolutely and emphatically - USELESS!!!!!!!!

That doesn't make much sense, you don't move your fullback to centre so a useless player can have a go at fullback.

Yes it does if you have Mbye.

He does nothing in the centre with the ball so you move AD in to do something.

Whilst you have the ball you move Mbye to FB because he won't drop the catch.

When you don't have the ball, you switch back, and hope Mbye doesn't run in and give them tries (which he did again).

That is not the reason, our attack flows much better with Mbye playing that linking role than it does with Doueihi, that is not an attak on Doueihi, he is a great player, he just has one of those awkward running styles.

Disagree..... Mbye should not be anywhere near the 17.

If you had a decent centre you wouldn't need to move AD.

By the way, those long cut out passes seem to flow ok to me.

You don't move your fullback because your centre is weak, fullback is the more important positions, that's why we have all these wingers and centres wanting fullback money. I have stated many times he does throw a nice ball but it is inconsistent and he needs to work on his spiral pass to move the ball quickly. His good ball playing is always done well before the line because has he gets closer to the line he uses his footwork more to beat tackles, which he is very effective at, but it also make him difficult to run off close to the defensive line.
 
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211710) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211703) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211699) said:
@clontarfkid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211640) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211626) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211620) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211609) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211592) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210324) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210320) said:
Bevan French has knocked bad an extension from Wigan, wanting a return to the NRL, which opens up a move for Josh Reynolds to take his spot according to the telegraph. Wigan will chase him according to them

Oh god please. PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASE!

An extra $700k in the cap would certainly make life easier

No way a SL club pays Reynolds $700k

They dont have to, they could offer him a long term deal for less and secure his future. Normally when guys go to England you don’t have to pay for them right?

Of course you do. Reynolds has a contract and he is unfortunately entitled to every cent of it

Not if he asks for a release. Most of the time guys go to England that seems to be how it works, you don’t hear of NRL clubs paying ESL clubs money that comes out of their salary cap.

Hes 30
Hes gonna get $800k next year with us...he cant get anywhere near that in ESL,so unless we pay a hefty subsidy he doesnt need to go anywhere and hope he may pick up another gig somewhere in 2022 (like Benji has done)
All the dice are in his favor..and same for Mbye who is younger and has an extra year with us@#@%$#!!!



@clontarfkid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211640) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211626) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211620) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211609) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211592) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210324) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210320) said:
Bevan French has knocked bad an extension from Wigan, wanting a return to the NRL, which opens up a move for Josh Reynolds to take his spot according to the telegraph. Wigan will chase him according to them

Oh god please. PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASE!

An extra $700k in the cap would certainly make life easier

No way a SL club pays Reynolds $700k

They dont have to, they could offer him a long term deal for less and secure his future. Normally when guys go to England you don’t have to pay for them right?

Of course you do. Reynolds has a contract and he is unfortunately entitled to every cent of it

Not if he asks for a release. Most of the time guys go to England that seems to be how it works, you don’t hear of NRL clubs paying ESL clubs money that comes out of their salary cap.

Hes 30
Hes gonna get $800k next year with us...he cant get anywhere near that in ESL,so unless we pay a hefty subsidy he doesnt need to go anywhere and hope he may pick up another gig somewhere in 2022 (like Benji has done)
All the dice are in his favor..and same for Mbye who is younger and has an extra year with us@#@%$#!!!

Reynolds is taking a 3 year deal with Wigan due to Madge’s contacts there. We won’t be paying a cent Grub will get a long term deal and more money than he will make here over the same period. He will kill it there and good luck to him.

Matulino retirement and Geub moving to the ESL are massive for us in rebuilding this roster. It’s bottom of the table all day.

I hope you are right because it will start to clean up the mess cleary left us in

It’s more than Clearys mess we have failed to create a club where players want to play and juniors stay. Paid overs for outsiders when we have the third biggest junior league in NSW.

Massive back ended contracts, fall of Balmain, Independant NRL Directors, 4 coaches in a few years, management lacking in Rugby League Nous etc.

Year 1 was 2018 it will take 5 years to recover. I’m not kidding we won’t be a threat before 2023.

Yep I would say that if get some decent recruitment done in next two seasons then combinations will click around that time.
For me what our recent games have demonstrated is that one of many things we lack is a forwards leader. Just watch the replay of last night .... JWH showed his worth in leading that young pack. That’s our priority purchase in the forwards .... there is just no one in our pack that shows any such quality, they are all followers .... a leader please.
 
I think switching Mbye is Doueihi has many reasons it’s not because one is better than the other. Mbye isn’t as good a hole runner and doesn’t carry the ball bery strongly but he has good right to left passing. Doueihis passing is okay on that side but not as good, and Mbye is quicker along the ground. It also gives the opposition different looks when you’re attacking, it’s all around smart coaching.

It’s not like Doueihi has shown he can’t pass that way he’s and it’s not like Mbye can’t make a line break at centre but if you have the ability to switch them up every so often and throw a different look at the opposition you should do it
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211975) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211710) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211703) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211699) said:
@clontarfkid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211640) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211626) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211620) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211609) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211592) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210324) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210320) said:
Bevan French has knocked bad an extension from Wigan, wanting a return to the NRL, which opens up a move for Josh Reynolds to take his spot according to the telegraph. Wigan will chase him according to them

Oh god please. PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASE!

An extra $700k in the cap would certainly make life easier

No way a SL club pays Reynolds $700k

They dont have to, they could offer him a long term deal for less and secure his future. Normally when guys go to England you don’t have to pay for them right?

Of course you do. Reynolds has a contract and he is unfortunately entitled to every cent of it

Not if he asks for a release. Most of the time guys go to England that seems to be how it works, you don’t hear of NRL clubs paying ESL clubs money that comes out of their salary cap.

Hes 30
Hes gonna get $800k next year with us...he cant get anywhere near that in ESL,so unless we pay a hefty subsidy he doesnt need to go anywhere and hope he may pick up another gig somewhere in 2022 (like Benji has done)
All the dice are in his favor..and same for Mbye who is younger and has an extra year with us@#@%$#!!!



@clontarfkid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211640) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211626) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211620) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211609) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1211592) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210324) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1210320) said:
Bevan French has knocked bad an extension from Wigan, wanting a return to the NRL, which opens up a move for Josh Reynolds to take his spot according to the telegraph. Wigan will chase him according to them

Oh god please. PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASE!

An extra $700k in the cap would certainly make life easier

No way a SL club pays Reynolds $700k

They dont have to, they could offer him a long term deal for less and secure his future. Normally when guys go to England you don’t have to pay for them right?

Of course you do. Reynolds has a contract and he is unfortunately entitled to every cent of it

Not if he asks for a release. Most of the time guys go to England that seems to be how it works, you don’t hear of NRL clubs paying ESL clubs money that comes out of their salary cap.

Hes 30
Hes gonna get $800k next year with us...he cant get anywhere near that in ESL,so unless we pay a hefty subsidy he doesnt need to go anywhere and hope he may pick up another gig somewhere in 2022 (like Benji has done)
All the dice are in his favor..and same for Mbye who is younger and has an extra year with us@#@%$#!!!

Reynolds is taking a 3 year deal with Wigan due to Madge’s contacts there. We won’t be paying a cent Grub will get a long term deal and more money than he will make here over the same period. He will kill it there and good luck to him.

Matulino retirement and Geub moving to the ESL are massive for us in rebuilding this roster. It’s bottom of the table all day.

I hope you are right because it will start to clean up the mess cleary left us in

It’s more than Clearys mess we have failed to create a club where players want to play and juniors stay. Paid overs for outsiders when we have the third biggest junior league in NSW.

Massive back ended contracts, fall of Balmain, Independant NRL Directors, 4 coaches in a few years, management lacking in Rugby League Nous etc.

Year 1 was 2018 it will take 5 years to recover. I’m not kidding we won’t be a threat before 2023.

Yep I would say that if get some decent recruitment done in next two seasons then combinations will click around that time.
For me what our recent games have demonstrated is that one of many things we lack is a forwards leader. Just watch the replay of last night .... JWH showed his worth in leading that young pack. That’s our priority purchase in the forwards .... there is just no one in our pack that shows any such quality, they are all followers .... a leader please.

I agree. We have to have a pack mentality Utoikamanu will be key to upgrading our prop rotation. Aloai, Twal, Mikalele, Utoikamanu have the potential but at this stage with the exception of Aloai it’s potential.

The best pack leader out there that’s off contract is Nathan Brown. He’s a lock but leads by example. Early days but Blore may be that player.
 

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