pawsandclaws1
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If we sign Tamou on the back of Leilua J, I would really question our acquisitions policy.
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weststigerman
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224228) said:
I’m confident they’ll make the right decision.
It’s no coincidence Nofa has scored many more tries than any other year with BJ inside him. Same thing happened at Canberra with Rapana.
Remove your agenda against BJ and give him credit for playing a big part in the comeback last night.
Strider
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BJ is one of our few weapons. It's pretty much him and Noffa actually
pawsandclaws1
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@Auburnon80 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224234) said:
We need three quality backs - JAC, Staines, Saab
facepalmer
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We are probably Tamou's only option if he wants to not uproot his family. I wouldn't be surprised if we get him on decent money. We're beggars and we can't be choosers. James Tamou is the captain of a team that's won 14 straight or whatever so he must be doing something right.
mikey
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No doubt we need experience - look at what Asotasi did for the myxos to provide leadership, experience and consistency.
Just need to pick the right one.............. which we don't have a great track record of doing.
Just need to pick the right one.............. which we don't have a great track record of doing.
avocadoontoast
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@mikey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224244) said:
True but Asotasi was in his mid 20’s and NZ Captain when Souths signed him I believe.
GNR4LIFE
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I really can’t see Tamou as anything other than a punching bag if we sign him.
Cairnstigers
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@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224162) said:
Train and Trial sounds good to me
Was off his game against Brisbane
We need someone with a little more to offer IMO
weststigers
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**NRL 2020: James Tamou contract talks could make or break Wests Tigers | Locker Room**
**It’s been a brutal time for Wests Tigers. But with James Tamou poised to declare if he’s joining the Wests Tigers next year – it could be the signing that changes the perception of the club forever.**
David Riccio, The Daily Telegraph
September 5, 2020 12:00pm
We’re about to discover how hard it is to remove the mud at the Wests Tigers.
By putting pen to paper with the Tigers in the next few days, former Test and NSW Origin and current Penrith prop James Tamou could help wipe clean the muck of perception.
Needless to say, it’s a tense time ahead for a club that no matter the season, the coach, the chair or the CEO, it just can’t get out of its own way.
If you’re a frustrated Tigers fan, you can be comforted by the fact Tamou has been in promising negotiations with the club.
Both the Tigers and Tamou’s current club, the Panthers, expect the 31-year-old to decide on his future this week.
Tamou represents the big fish the Tigers, despite using every jig, lure and hook, have failed to net in recent times.
A premiership winner, experienced and just an all-round decent family man, Tamou is a player the Tigers can use as a genuine figurehead of their pack.
Melbourne and NSW State of Origin winger Josh Addo-Carr is also in the final stages of deciding to come back to the Tigers — albeit as a fullback.
He has the Tigers offer in his email and only needs to settle on the final contract terms. Again, another big fish.
They are two players in a reduced roster of 26 — each position even more crucial.
The duo represent a renewed confidence at Wests.
They also represent something few on the outside — and clearly given their nine-year finals absence — within the walls at Concord boast: belief.
To sign Tamou and Addo-Carr is to say that two elite players believe in the club. It’s huge.
Tigers chair Lee Hagipantelis is deeply passionate about the club but he’s not blinded by his love either. He knows if the Tigers are to make it back to the finals, they have to confront their own issues within.
For the principal of Brydens Lawyers, that’s belief.
He sees it in the leading clubs and he says the Tigers need to replicate it.
“There has been a perception that the Wests Tigers have not been successful because there has not been that belief in ourselves,” Hagipantelis says.
“You look at those clubs who have enjoyed sustained success, the Roosters and Melbourne, and you look at them as a model, and you think ‘what are they doing right, what are they doing differently to us?’
“And you need to model yourself on them.
“Stability at the front office, great recruitment and a belief in what they’re doing — we need to create that here.
“This season, again to not achieve what we set out for, it’s unacceptable.
“That level of mediocrity has entrenched itself and unless we start doing things drastically different, it’s going to remain the same.
“We do not accept that mediocrity as being our standards.”
Publicly, the Tigers have hitched their sail to coach Michael Maguire’s mast.
Behind the scenes, they’re sticking with the coach despite the dressing room chatter of discontent making its way into the public.
The playing group need to know that while they may have won battles with the coach in the past, they won’t win the war any time soon.
It’s not that Maguire is without flaw as a coach either — it’s just simple logic.
Are the Tigers really going to pay out another coach? His sacking would amount to six coaches in seven years.
And further, are they going to sack their coach given the lack of options available — evident in the Dragons struggle to replace Paul McGregor?
No.
What the Tigers are going to do is wait until the season is over, sit Maguire down with a pen and extend his contract beyond his current deal, which expires at the end of 2021.
Again, the key to the Tigers revival is recruitment, and if the club has struggled to sign the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Matt Moylan, Kurt Capewell and AJ Brimson in the past, what chance are they of attracting players if they can’t tell their target who the coach will be in year two, three or four of their contract. The Dragons’ missing out on Storm forward Christian Welch last week is a perfect example of that.
Aside from stability at coach level, what the Tigers need to promise Tamou, Addo-Carr and any other player target, is the way the club failed miserably on Tuesday in managing a club icon in Benji Marshall out the door, will never happen again.
Hagipantelis admits the extraction of Marshall, who learned of his exit from the club at the end of the season via a newspaper leak was “embarrassing”, ”disappointing” and ”disgraceful”.
“If anyone represents what the Tigers have achieved since the joint venture commenced in 2000, it’s Benji Marshall,’’ Hagipantelis said.
“That’s not the way anyone wanted it to happen.’’
That’s the lesson for the Tigers. Because you just know it wouldn’t have happened at the Storm or Roosters.
**It’s been a brutal time for Wests Tigers. But with James Tamou poised to declare if he’s joining the Wests Tigers next year – it could be the signing that changes the perception of the club forever.**
David Riccio, The Daily Telegraph
September 5, 2020 12:00pm
We’re about to discover how hard it is to remove the mud at the Wests Tigers.
By putting pen to paper with the Tigers in the next few days, former Test and NSW Origin and current Penrith prop James Tamou could help wipe clean the muck of perception.
Needless to say, it’s a tense time ahead for a club that no matter the season, the coach, the chair or the CEO, it just can’t get out of its own way.
If you’re a frustrated Tigers fan, you can be comforted by the fact Tamou has been in promising negotiations with the club.
Both the Tigers and Tamou’s current club, the Panthers, expect the 31-year-old to decide on his future this week.
Tamou represents the big fish the Tigers, despite using every jig, lure and hook, have failed to net in recent times.
A premiership winner, experienced and just an all-round decent family man, Tamou is a player the Tigers can use as a genuine figurehead of their pack.
Melbourne and NSW State of Origin winger Josh Addo-Carr is also in the final stages of deciding to come back to the Tigers — albeit as a fullback.
He has the Tigers offer in his email and only needs to settle on the final contract terms. Again, another big fish.
They are two players in a reduced roster of 26 — each position even more crucial.
The duo represent a renewed confidence at Wests.
They also represent something few on the outside — and clearly given their nine-year finals absence — within the walls at Concord boast: belief.
To sign Tamou and Addo-Carr is to say that two elite players believe in the club. It’s huge.
Tigers chair Lee Hagipantelis is deeply passionate about the club but he’s not blinded by his love either. He knows if the Tigers are to make it back to the finals, they have to confront their own issues within.
For the principal of Brydens Lawyers, that’s belief.
He sees it in the leading clubs and he says the Tigers need to replicate it.
“There has been a perception that the Wests Tigers have not been successful because there has not been that belief in ourselves,” Hagipantelis says.
“You look at those clubs who have enjoyed sustained success, the Roosters and Melbourne, and you look at them as a model, and you think ‘what are they doing right, what are they doing differently to us?’
“And you need to model yourself on them.
“Stability at the front office, great recruitment and a belief in what they’re doing — we need to create that here.
“This season, again to not achieve what we set out for, it’s unacceptable.
“That level of mediocrity has entrenched itself and unless we start doing things drastically different, it’s going to remain the same.
“We do not accept that mediocrity as being our standards.”
Publicly, the Tigers have hitched their sail to coach Michael Maguire’s mast.
Behind the scenes, they’re sticking with the coach despite the dressing room chatter of discontent making its way into the public.
The playing group need to know that while they may have won battles with the coach in the past, they won’t win the war any time soon.
It’s not that Maguire is without flaw as a coach either — it’s just simple logic.
Are the Tigers really going to pay out another coach? His sacking would amount to six coaches in seven years.
And further, are they going to sack their coach given the lack of options available — evident in the Dragons struggle to replace Paul McGregor?
No.
What the Tigers are going to do is wait until the season is over, sit Maguire down with a pen and extend his contract beyond his current deal, which expires at the end of 2021.
Again, the key to the Tigers revival is recruitment, and if the club has struggled to sign the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Matt Moylan, Kurt Capewell and AJ Brimson in the past, what chance are they of attracting players if they can’t tell their target who the coach will be in year two, three or four of their contract. The Dragons’ missing out on Storm forward Christian Welch last week is a perfect example of that.
Aside from stability at coach level, what the Tigers need to promise Tamou, Addo-Carr and any other player target, is the way the club failed miserably on Tuesday in managing a club icon in Benji Marshall out the door, will never happen again.
Hagipantelis admits the extraction of Marshall, who learned of his exit from the club at the end of the season via a newspaper leak was “embarrassing”, ”disappointing” and ”disgraceful”.
“If anyone represents what the Tigers have achieved since the joint venture commenced in 2000, it’s Benji Marshall,’’ Hagipantelis said.
“That’s not the way anyone wanted it to happen.’’
That’s the lesson for the Tigers. Because you just know it wouldn’t have happened at the Storm or Roosters.
@weststigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224254) said:
I hate to tell Davis Riccio but i would become even more frustrated and angry if we sign this bloke.All he would do is soak up considerable cap for years.He is not the answer or even a part of the answer to our needs
earl
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Tamou is a typical Tiger signing. Costs too much and delivers next to nothing. JAC is the type of signing we need if he kills it at fullback. That is a big if.
If we get Tamou for limited dollars it could work but I see looming disaster all over this signing.
If we get Tamou for limited dollars it could work but I see looming disaster all over this signing.
Strider
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Compforted by Tamau! That's funny.
Hey can anyone please tell me if it's actually possible to offload Mbye? Its obvious his best position is no where in the team next year. Is any club interested at all? Thanks
Hey can anyone please tell me if it's actually possible to offload Mbye? Its obvious his best position is no where in the team next year. Is any club interested at all? Thanks
weststigers
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@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224261) said:
Does anyone know how much our offer is?
mike
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Youth and speed. We need youth and speed.
Repeat this mantra until the idea of 30+ year old players (plodders?) has been flushed from your brain.
Repeat this mantra until the idea of 30+ year old players (plodders?) has been flushed from your brain.
weststigerman
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@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224274) said:
We need more than that. When JT was here we had youth and speed, but we couldn’t tackle.
mike
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@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1224277) said:
You haven’t chanted it long enough
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