Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tigerlily]

I wouldn’t be in a rush to sign him. Not just cos his old man is a goose, but if he was worth anything, why would Griffin not want him. The guy who a lot of you like to credit with the success of the Panthers juniors. He obviously can spot a young player.


Griffin was in charge of the Broncos development squad under Bennett during those great years, so he certainly can spot and develop good talented juniors.

Has anyone thought there might be some bad blood between Griffin and Wendell and unfortunately for young Tristan his axing might just be a result of that.

 

[Russell]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

 

[Russell]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Burton is the one Russ, a future star.

Absolutely Avo.... Kitchen sink job in my opinion.

 

[JC99]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

 

[avocadoontoast]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

Who cares about the optics, sign the best players we can. If we can somehow miraculously get someone like Burton, we should do it. No brainer.

 

[JC99]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

Who cares about the optics, sign the best players we can. If we can somehow miraculously get someone like Burton, we should do it. No brainer.

You’re right but it won’t have a positive effect on our players. We don’t want more unrest

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Why are we after Sailor? To play where?

He would be the best 5/8 at the club if we signed him. Still super raw though.

Geez not sure about that. Not from what I’ve seen so far.

Great attacking player. Would have way more try assists, line breaks and forced dropouts than Reynolds or Walters. Doueihi and Mbye not sure how they’ll go but they won’t have as much spark as he does. He’s lightning fast and has nice short kicking.

Agree to all ..
The only issue would be the excess baggage he’d come With ... his old man !

Big Dell sticks his nose in everything

Helicopter parent lol

 

[avocadoontoast]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

Who cares about the optics, sign the best players we can. If we can somehow miraculously get someone like Burton, we should do it. No brainer.

You’re right but it won’t have a positive effect on our players. We don’t want more unrest

Oh well, if they have a problem with upgrading our team, tough.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

Hopefully we can offload Reynolds at the end of this year, then we can sign a good young half in place of him and not Benji, because if we go into next season with the halves we have at the moment, then we’ve got nothing!

 

[TigerVinnie]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That's why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

Who cares about the optics, sign the best players we can. If we can somehow miraculously get someone like Burton, we should do it. No brainer.

Agreed. If the media or current players cant see the benefit of signing a Burton for long term success over a 1 year deal for a 36 year old then they have no idea.

 

[Goanna57]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

 

[Russell]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It's like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I'll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

 

[ATown]

How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good ?

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

Totally agree re; Drinkwater. Terrible defence, outstanding attack and the odd brain fade.

He’s a Benji clone, albeit a much younger and quicker version.

Very talented player though with a heap of upside and I’d be excited if he came our way.

Burton would be my pick though for sure.

 

[Goanna57]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It's like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I'll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

 

[Russell]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It's like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I'll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

I understand - but none of them play it well enough that is why we need a play maker.

 

[Goanna57]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It's like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I'll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

I understand - but none of them play it well enough that is why we need a play maker.

Russell I agree but what path do we go down ,wait for a proven experience player or the he’s got lots of potential but as yet not prove

 

[Swordy]

We need a 29yo number 6 that is known to be an very unflash organiser.

I can't stand Chad Townsend or his hair, but that type is exactly what we need at number 6. Not a 7. Someone who is VERY process driven, unflash, robotic.

Doesn't mean I want Chad Townsend, just that type. Ungifted, but relies on repetition of process.

 

[Russell]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It's like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I'll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

I understand - but none of them play it well enough that is why we need a play maker.

Russell I agree but what path do we go down ,wait for a proven experience player or the he’s got lots of potential but as yet not prove

Burton, Clifford and Drinkwater are all off contract at the end of 2021 - we have to start thinking of a solution by November 1 or they will all be gone. There will be others off contract at that time as well Flanagan, Williams, Dearden, Johnson, Fogarty etc.

However if we are not in there on November 1 - forget it.

 

[Goanna57]

We need a 29yo number 6 that is known to be an very unflash organiser.

I can't stand Chad Townsend or his hair, but that type is exactly what we need at number 6. Not a 7. Someone who is VERY process driven, unflash, robotic.

Doesn't mean I want Chad Townsend, just that type. Ungifted, but relies on repetition of process.

Are there any players like that available and with our reputation can we even get them to the club

 

[Newtown]

Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It's like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I'll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

I understand - but none of them play it well enough that is why we need a play maker.

Russell I agree but what path do we go down ,wait for a proven experience player or the he’s got lots of potential but as yet not prove

Burton, Clifford and Drinkwater are all off contract at the end of 2021 - we have to start thinking of a solution by November 1 or they will all be gone. There will be others off contract at that time as well Flanagan, Williams, Dearden, Johnson, Fogarty etc.

However if we are not in there on November 1 - forget it.

Fogarty is a very good half and goal kicker.