Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264633) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264629) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264621) said:
We are the ONLY NRL club that is unable to sign an elite player. Dogs, Titans, Knights have been regularly performing worse than us yet they sign several origin players, titans obviously with their recent raids and even the Dogs could sign Cotric. Yes they overpaid players but it kick starts their rebuild. We’re still in our 9th consecutive year of rebuilding and are still tipped to get the spoon next year.

Cool bananas looking forward to how those ongoing Bulldogs, Titans and Knights rebuilds are going. Bulldogs and Titans in particular, many many good decisions over many years of success.

I specifically asked where 10-20% overs comes from. Also "least desirable" and "immense issues selling ourselves".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You say yourself you are dealing in crumbs.

We just signed the captain of one of the Grand Final sides, but apparently we cannot sell ourselves.

Ok, I will spell it out for you. Everyone we try to sign choose to go elsewhere.

Do you understand now?

I agree we have issues mate, illustrated by the players we have chased but missed. But we've signed at least one so haven't missed all our targets. Likely just most.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264605) said:
Currently 4 spots open for our top 30. Seems like Seyfarth will take one and possibly could have Mansour taking another. We should still have a good amount of cap problem is there’s no one to sign...

What about Jahrome Hughes? He plays in the halves and at fullback.
 
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264659) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264605) said:
Currently 4 spots open for our top 30. Seems like Seyfarth will take one and possibly could have Mansour taking another. We should still have a good amount of cap problem is there’s no one to sign...

What about Jahrome Hughes? He plays in the halves and at fullback.

Would be an excellent signing, more likely for 2022. Half the NRL chasing him apparently
 
From Paul Crawley at The Daily Telegraph

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out swinging in defence of under-fire coach Michael Maguire, declaring “there is much more to the man than the myth”.

Amid suggestions one of the main reasons Josh Addo-Carr stayed in Melbourne was because he didn’t want to be coached by Maguire, Hagipantelis argued “that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager (Mario Tartak)”.

It comes as the struggling club prepares to finalise an end-of-season review this week to investigate why the team with the longest NRL finals drought, stretching back to 2011, slipped even further down the ladder in 2020.

Hagipantelis also opened up about the not-so-secret meeting with troubled former South Sydney centre James Roberts last week, explaining why the Tigers walked away so impressed with what the speedster had to say.

And while recommitting the board’s “unified” support for Maguire to get a contract extension, Hagipantelis couldn’t deny an unwanted perception relating to the coach’s hardline reputation scaring off potential recruits.

“Look, I don’t disagree that there is a narrative that is being pushed that Josh didn’t want to come,” Hagipantelis said.

“But that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager … and I haven’t heard any different by either the player or the manager, and by Melbourne.” Hagipantelis added: “I would hope that it is a false narrative.

“You are right though, it is something I am not happy to read about in the press or listen to pundits speak of it that players do not want to come to the Wests Tigers. “We are doing everything that we possibly can to turn the ship around.

“You’ve got to understand, rotating and refining rosters and recruitment is like changing direction in a cruise ship. “It takes a while. It doesn’t not happen overnight. But we are definitely in the process. “We accept this year we came 11th. Last year we came ninth. “So on any objective analysis we have worsened this year … and it is unacceptable.

“So we are doing what we can and we are chasing quality players and we are speaking to young players and established players.

“But you are right, we are battling a sort of narrative at the moment which may be a perception as opposed to a reality.”

Which leads to last week’s sit down with Roberts which surprised many, especially given the mysterious way Roberts exited South Sydney with a season to run on his reported $550,000 contract.

“I agree (it did seem strange to leave without a guarantee at another club), and I can tell you from our perspective we don’t know either,” Hagipantelis said.

“But I will also tell you this, that both Adam Hartigan and Justin Pascoe left that meeting completely overwhelmed by what a quality person and how open and transparent he was in that meeting.

“We all understand that we all know people that have had their demons in life, and being able to recognise those demons and actively want to address them is a pretty endearing human quality and there is an opportunity for redemption.

“It may be construed as a failing on our part but our natural human instinct is to reach out and help people.”

Hagipantelis said “as of today” the club was not serious about recruiting Roberts for next season but that could change.

He also confirmed Maguire had the club’s full support and an extension until the end of 2023 should be finalised in due course.

“I can tell you from the board’s perspective we are unified in terms of our commitment to Madge and believe that he will be the coach that will move us forward to that next level,” he said.

“He may present as the hard task master and what not. But his passion for the club and more importantly for his players cannot be questioned.

“And all he has in mind of paramount importance is their wellbeing.”
 
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

ouch
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264670) said:
From Paul Crawley at The Daily Telegraph

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out swinging in defence of under-fire coach Michael Maguire, declaring “there is much more to the man than the myth”.

Amid suggestions one of the main reasons Josh Addo-Carr stayed in Melbourne was because he didn’t want to be coached by Maguire, Hagipantelis argued “that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager (Mario Tartak)”.

It comes as the struggling club prepares to finalise an end-of-season review this week to investigate why the team with the longest NRL finals drought, stretching back to 2011, slipped even further down the ladder in 2020.

Hagipantelis also opened up about the not-so-secret meeting with troubled former South Sydney centre James Roberts last week, explaining why the Tigers walked away so impressed with what the speedster had to say.

And while recommitting the board’s “unified” support for Maguire to get a contract extension, Hagipantelis couldn’t deny an unwanted perception relating to the coach’s hardline reputation scaring off potential recruits.

“Look, I don’t disagree that there is a narrative that is being pushed that Josh didn’t want to come,” Hagipantelis said.

“But that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager … and I haven’t heard any different by either the player or the manager, and by Melbourne.” Hagipantelis added: “I would hope that it is a false narrative.

“You are right though, it is something I am not happy to read about in the press or listen to pundits speak of it that players do not want to come to the Wests Tigers. “We are doing everything that we possibly can to turn the ship around.

“You’ve got to understand, rotating and refining rosters and recruitment is like changing direction in a cruise ship. “It takes a while. It doesn’t not happen overnight. But we are definitely in the process. “We accept this year we came 11th. Last year we came ninth. “So on any objective analysis we have worsened this year … and it is unacceptable.

“So we are doing what we can and we are chasing quality players and we are speaking to young players and established players.

“But you are right, we are battling a sort of narrative at the moment which may be a perception as opposed to a reality.”

Which leads to last week’s sit down with Roberts which surprised many, especially given the mysterious way Roberts exited South Sydney with a season to run on his reported $550,000 contract.

“I agree (it did seem strange to leave without a guarantee at another club), and I can tell you from our perspective we don’t know either,” Hagipantelis said.

“But I will also tell you this, that both Adam Hartigan and Justin Pascoe left that meeting completely overwhelmed by what a quality person and how open and transparent he was in that meeting.

“We all understand that we all know people that have had their demons in life, and being able to recognise those demons and actively want to address them is a pretty endearing human quality and there is an opportunity for redemption.

“It may be construed as a failing on our part but our natural human instinct is to reach out and help people.”

Hagipantelis said “as of today” the club was not serious about recruiting Roberts for next season but that could change.

He also confirmed Maguire had the club’s full support and an extension until the end of 2023 should be finalised in due course.

“I can tell you from the board’s perspective we are unified in terms of our commitment to Madge and believe that he will be the coach that will move us forward to that next level,” he said.

“He may present as the hard task master and what not. But his passion for the club and more importantly for his players cannot be questioned.

“And all he has in mind of paramount importance is their wellbeing.”

Full support of the board...
 
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264685) said:
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

ouch


don't read or listen to anything Hooper produces from his back passage
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264687) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264670) said:
From Paul Crawley at The Daily Telegraph

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out swinging in defence of under-fire coach Michael Maguire, declaring “there is much more to the man than the myth”.

Amid suggestions one of the main reasons Josh Addo-Carr stayed in Melbourne was because he didn’t want to be coached by Maguire, Hagipantelis argued “that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager (Mario Tartak)”.

It comes as the struggling club prepares to finalise an end-of-season review this week to investigate why the team with the longest NRL finals drought, stretching back to 2011, slipped even further down the ladder in 2020.

Hagipantelis also opened up about the not-so-secret meeting with troubled former South Sydney centre James Roberts last week, explaining why the Tigers walked away so impressed with what the speedster had to say.

And while recommitting the board’s “unified” support for Maguire to get a contract extension, Hagipantelis couldn’t deny an unwanted perception relating to the coach’s hardline reputation scaring off potential recruits.

“Look, I don’t disagree that there is a narrative that is being pushed that Josh didn’t want to come,” Hagipantelis said.

“But that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager … and I haven’t heard any different by either the player or the manager, and by Melbourne.” Hagipantelis added: “I would hope that it is a false narrative.

“You are right though, it is something I am not happy to read about in the press or listen to pundits speak of it that players do not want to come to the Wests Tigers. “We are doing everything that we possibly can to turn the ship around.

“You’ve got to understand, rotating and refining rosters and recruitment is like changing direction in a cruise ship. “It takes a while. It doesn’t not happen overnight. But we are definitely in the process. “We accept this year we came 11th. Last year we came ninth. “So on any objective analysis we have worsened this year … and it is unacceptable.

“So we are doing what we can and we are chasing quality players and we are speaking to young players and established players.

“But you are right, we are battling a sort of narrative at the moment which may be a perception as opposed to a reality.”

Which leads to last week’s sit down with Roberts which surprised many, especially given the mysterious way Roberts exited South Sydney with a season to run on his reported $550,000 contract.

“I agree (it did seem strange to leave without a guarantee at another club), and I can tell you from our perspective we don’t know either,” Hagipantelis said.

“But I will also tell you this, that both Adam Hartigan and Justin Pascoe left that meeting completely overwhelmed by what a quality person and how open and transparent he was in that meeting.

“We all understand that we all know people that have had their demons in life, and being able to recognise those demons and actively want to address them is a pretty endearing human quality and there is an opportunity for redemption.

“It may be construed as a failing on our part but our natural human instinct is to reach out and help people.”

Hagipantelis said “as of today” the club was not serious about recruiting Roberts for next season but that could change.

He also confirmed Maguire had the club’s full support and an extension until the end of 2023 should be finalised in due course.

“I can tell you from the board’s perspective we are unified in terms of our commitment to Madge and believe that he will be the coach that will move us forward to that next level,” he said.

“He may present as the hard task master and what not. But his passion for the club and more importantly for his players cannot be questioned.

“And all he has in mind of paramount importance is their wellbeing.”

Full support of the board...

He’s doomed. Plus Robbie is coming back, he’s got no chance ?
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264670) said:
From Paul Crawley at The Daily Telegraph

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out swinging in defence of under-fire coach Michael Maguire, declaring “there is much more to the man than the myth”.

Amid suggestions one of the main reasons Josh Addo-Carr stayed in Melbourne was because he didn’t want to be coached by Maguire, Hagipantelis argued “that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager (Mario Tartak)”.

It comes as the struggling club prepares to finalise an end-of-season review this week to investigate why the team with the longest NRL finals drought, stretching back to 2011, slipped even further down the ladder in 2020.

Hagipantelis also opened up about the not-so-secret meeting with troubled former South Sydney centre James Roberts last week, explaining why the Tigers walked away so impressed with what the speedster had to say.

And while recommitting the board’s “unified” support for Maguire to get a contract extension, Hagipantelis couldn’t deny an unwanted perception relating to the coach’s hardline reputation scaring off potential recruits.

“Look, I don’t disagree that there is a narrative that is being pushed that Josh didn’t want to come,” Hagipantelis said.

“But that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager … and I haven’t heard any different by either the player or the manager, and by Melbourne.” Hagipantelis added: “I would hope that it is a false narrative.

“You are right though, it is something I am not happy to read about in the press or listen to pundits speak of it that players do not want to come to the Wests Tigers. “We are doing everything that we possibly can to turn the ship around.

“You’ve got to understand, rotating and refining rosters and recruitment is like changing direction in a cruise ship. “It takes a while. It doesn’t not happen overnight. But we are definitely in the process. “We accept this year we came 11th. Last year we came ninth. “So on any objective analysis we have worsened this year … and it is unacceptable.

“So we are doing what we can and we are chasing quality players and we are speaking to young players and established players.

“But you are right, we are battling a sort of narrative at the moment which may be a perception as opposed to a reality.”

Which leads to last week’s sit down with Roberts which surprised many, especially given the mysterious way Roberts exited South Sydney with a season to run on his reported $550,000 contract.

“I agree (it did seem strange to leave without a guarantee at another club), and I can tell you from our perspective we don’t know either,” Hagipantelis said.

“But I will also tell you this, that both Adam Hartigan and Justin Pascoe left that meeting completely overwhelmed by what a quality person and how open and transparent he was in that meeting.

“We all understand that we all know people that have had their demons in life, and being able to recognise those demons and actively want to address them is a pretty endearing human quality and there is an opportunity for redemption.

“It may be construed as a failing on our part but our natural human instinct is to reach out and help people.”

Hagipantelis said “as of today” the club was not serious about recruiting Roberts for next season but that could change.

He also confirmed Maguire had the club’s full support and an extension until the end of 2023 should be finalised in due course.

“I can tell you from the board’s perspective we are unified in terms of our commitment to Madge and believe that he will be the coach that will move us forward to that next level,” he said.

“He may present as the hard task master and what not. But his passion for the club and more importantly for his players cannot be questioned.

“And all he has in mind of paramount importance is their wellbeing.”

Isn’t Crawley one of the anti WT’s journo’s. Interesting read.

Usually when the board say they are 100% behind you, you are gone😃😃
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264689) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264687) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264670) said:
From Paul Crawley at The Daily Telegraph

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out swinging in defence of under-fire coach Michael Maguire, declaring “there is much more to the man than the myth”.

Amid suggestions one of the main reasons Josh Addo-Carr stayed in Melbourne was because he didn’t want to be coached by Maguire, Hagipantelis argued “that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager (Mario Tartak)”.

It comes as the struggling club prepares to finalise an end-of-season review this week to investigate why the team with the longest NRL finals drought, stretching back to 2011, slipped even further down the ladder in 2020.

Hagipantelis also opened up about the not-so-secret meeting with troubled former South Sydney centre James Roberts last week, explaining why the Tigers walked away so impressed with what the speedster had to say.

And while recommitting the board’s “unified” support for Maguire to get a contract extension, Hagipantelis couldn’t deny an unwanted perception relating to the coach’s hardline reputation scaring off potential recruits.

“Look, I don’t disagree that there is a narrative that is being pushed that Josh didn’t want to come,” Hagipantelis said.

“But that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager … and I haven’t heard any different by either the player or the manager, and by Melbourne.” Hagipantelis added: “I would hope that it is a false narrative.

“You are right though, it is something I am not happy to read about in the press or listen to pundits speak of it that players do not want to come to the Wests Tigers. “We are doing everything that we possibly can to turn the ship around.

“You’ve got to understand, rotating and refining rosters and recruitment is like changing direction in a cruise ship. “It takes a while. It doesn’t not happen overnight. But we are definitely in the process. “We accept this year we came 11th. Last year we came ninth. “So on any objective analysis we have worsened this year … and it is unacceptable.

“So we are doing what we can and we are chasing quality players and we are speaking to young players and established players.

“But you are right, we are battling a sort of narrative at the moment which may be a perception as opposed to a reality.”

Which leads to last week’s sit down with Roberts which surprised many, especially given the mysterious way Roberts exited South Sydney with a season to run on his reported $550,000 contract.

“I agree (it did seem strange to leave without a guarantee at another club), and I can tell you from our perspective we don’t know either,” Hagipantelis said.

“But I will also tell you this, that both Adam Hartigan and Justin Pascoe left that meeting completely overwhelmed by what a quality person and how open and transparent he was in that meeting.

“We all understand that we all know people that have had their demons in life, and being able to recognise those demons and actively want to address them is a pretty endearing human quality and there is an opportunity for redemption.

“It may be construed as a failing on our part but our natural human instinct is to reach out and help people.”

Hagipantelis said “as of today” the club was not serious about recruiting Roberts for next season but that could change.

He also confirmed Maguire had the club’s full support and an extension until the end of 2023 should be finalised in due course.

“I can tell you from the board’s perspective we are unified in terms of our commitment to Madge and believe that he will be the coach that will move us forward to that next level,” he said.

“He may present as the hard task master and what not. But his passion for the club and more importantly for his players cannot be questioned.

“And all he has in mind of paramount importance is their wellbeing.”

Full support of the board...

He’s doomed. Plus Robbie is coming back, he’s got no chance ?

Farah caretaker coach from mid season
 
@WT2K said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264710) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264689) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264687) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264670) said:
From Paul Crawley at The Daily Telegraph

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out swinging in defence of under-fire coach Michael Maguire, declaring “there is much more to the man than the myth”.

Amid suggestions one of the main reasons Josh Addo-Carr stayed in Melbourne was because he didn’t want to be coached by Maguire, Hagipantelis argued “that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager (Mario Tartak)”.

It comes as the struggling club prepares to finalise an end-of-season review this week to investigate why the team with the longest NRL finals drought, stretching back to 2011, slipped even further down the ladder in 2020.

Hagipantelis also opened up about the not-so-secret meeting with troubled former South Sydney centre James Roberts last week, explaining why the Tigers walked away so impressed with what the speedster had to say.

And while recommitting the board’s “unified” support for Maguire to get a contract extension, Hagipantelis couldn’t deny an unwanted perception relating to the coach’s hardline reputation scaring off potential recruits.

“Look, I don’t disagree that there is a narrative that is being pushed that Josh didn’t want to come,” Hagipantelis said.

“But that is completely contrary to what we were told by his manager … and I haven’t heard any different by either the player or the manager, and by Melbourne.” Hagipantelis added: “I would hope that it is a false narrative.

“You are right though, it is something I am not happy to read about in the press or listen to pundits speak of it that players do not want to come to the Wests Tigers. “We are doing everything that we possibly can to turn the ship around.

“You’ve got to understand, rotating and refining rosters and recruitment is like changing direction in a cruise ship. “It takes a while. It doesn’t not happen overnight. But we are definitely in the process. “We accept this year we came 11th. Last year we came ninth. “So on any objective analysis we have worsened this year … and it is unacceptable.

“So we are doing what we can and we are chasing quality players and we are speaking to young players and established players.

“But you are right, we are battling a sort of narrative at the moment which may be a perception as opposed to a reality.”

Which leads to last week’s sit down with Roberts which surprised many, especially given the mysterious way Roberts exited South Sydney with a season to run on his reported $550,000 contract.

“I agree (it did seem strange to leave without a guarantee at another club), and I can tell you from our perspective we don’t know either,” Hagipantelis said.

“But I will also tell you this, that both Adam Hartigan and Justin Pascoe left that meeting completely overwhelmed by what a quality person and how open and transparent he was in that meeting.

“We all understand that we all know people that have had their demons in life, and being able to recognise those demons and actively want to address them is a pretty endearing human quality and there is an opportunity for redemption.

“It may be construed as a failing on our part but our natural human instinct is to reach out and help people.”

Hagipantelis said “as of today” the club was not serious about recruiting Roberts for next season but that could change.

He also confirmed Maguire had the club’s full support and an extension until the end of 2023 should be finalised in due course.

“I can tell you from the board’s perspective we are unified in terms of our commitment to Madge and believe that he will be the coach that will move us forward to that next level,” he said.

“He may present as the hard task master and what not. But his passion for the club and more importantly for his players cannot be questioned.

“And all he has in mind of paramount importance is their wellbeing.”

Full support of the board...

He’s doomed. Plus Robbie is coming back, he’s got no chance ?

Farah caretaker coach from mid season

They think Maguire is tough - Farah would eat them alive.
 
@TigerWest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264642) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264639) said:
@TigerWest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264636) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264633) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264629) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264621) said:
We are the ONLY NRL club that is unable to sign an elite player. Dogs, Titans, Knights have been regularly performing worse than us yet they sign several origin players, titans obviously with their recent raids and even the Dogs could sign Cotric. Yes they overpaid players but it kick starts their rebuild. We’re still in our 9th consecutive year of rebuilding and are still tipped to get the spoon next year.

Cool bananas looking forward to how those ongoing Bulldogs, Titans and Knights rebuilds are going. Bulldogs and Titans in particular, many many good decisions over many years of success.

I specifically asked where 10-20% overs comes from. Also "least desirable" and "immense issues selling ourselves".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You say yourself you are dealing in crumbs.

We just signed the captain of one of the Grand Final sides, but apparently we cannot sell ourselves.

Ok, I will spell it out for you. Everyone we try to sign choose to go elsewhere.

Do you understand now?

Sorry BB but that is clearly incorrect.

So please tell me about all the rep players we've signed over recent years. I'll wait....

Of course this excludes youngsters looking for an opportunity. Because that's the only type of player we get.

That was not your original statement.

Exactly my point.

Nobody is arguing that Tigers have a history of signing rep-level players. But BB stated we are the "least desirable club" in the comp and we have issues selling ourselves. Also we need to pay "10-20% overs to get players".

As an example we've signed the Penrith GF captain and two of the best emerging forwards prospects in the game (Blore and Stefano). We signed BJ, Douiehi, Luciano last year. Not superstars but they chose Tigers over other opportunities.

I'm not clear where the "desirability" of Tigers starts and finishes, because clearly decent first-graders and promising youngsters don't cut the mustard with some fans. The issue is apparently elite-levels and I can only guess those fans think the elites will make the difference between finals or not, if we jag one.

And I circle back around to my old point - Tigers have had elite-level players before and it didn't put us in the finals. Benji, Farah, Tedesco, Woods all elite performers at their career with Tigers.

We didn't need to sign elite fullbacks or hookers for the best part of a decade with those juniors.

New management group is in and clearly they aren't all about signing elites either. Interested yes, but not all-in on signing big-names. Second-last crop of "known" players we signed have not turned out well, c/o previous coach. We should still be getting better performances from those "known" players like Mbye and Packer, but that was the decision-making of the previous coach and we are still heavily encumbered with Voldemort's decisions.
 
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264688) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264685) said:
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

ouch


don't read or listen to anything Hooper produces from his back passage

Ha - "let me quote the opinion of a stupid idiot". I wonder what the bum on the street thinks about Tigers' recruitment.

Thing about Hooper is his opinion has nothing to do with anything. At least you can say Phil Gould carries weight in the RL community. Hooper carries nothing, he has no history, no clout, no experience.

I know this is a forum almost entirely made up of opinions, but I'm personally not really interested in the opinions of people who are paid to comment. They have to generate content for their livelihood.
 
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264688) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264685) said:
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

ouch


don't read or listen to anything Hooper produces from his back passage

It's the truth.

You might not want to read or hear about it, but it's fairly obvious players don't want to come here.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264638) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264629) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264621) said:
We are the ONLY NRL club that is unable to sign an elite player. Dogs, Titans, Knights have been regularly performing worse than us yet they sign several origin players, titans obviously with their recent raids and even the Dogs could sign Cotric. Yes they overpaid players but it kick starts their rebuild. We’re still in our 9th consecutive year of rebuilding and are still tipped to get the spoon next year.

Cool bananas looking forward to how those ongoing Bulldogs, Titans and Knights rebuilds are going. Bulldogs and Titans in particular, many many good decisions over many years of success.

I specifically asked where 10-20% overs comes from. Also "least desirable" and "immense issues selling ourselves".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You say yourself you are dealing in crumbs.

We just signed the captain of one of the Grand Final sides, but apparently we cannot sell ourselves.

We did sign the ex Captain of Penrith but some context needs to be given. After all, most would agree that while he has been a very good player, he is in the twilight years of his career.

The fact his family didn't want to move the kids from their school, basically made us the only optiion
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264719) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264688) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264685) said:
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

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don't read or listen to anything Hooper produces from his back passage

It's the truth.

You might not want to read or hear about it, but it's fairly obvious players don't want to come here.

Tamou, Blore, Douiehi, BJ, Luciano, Garner, Stefano, Hoffman, Simpkin, Tuilagi, Reynolds, Mbye, Packer, Walters, Musgrove, Fonua, Thompson, Lolohea, Taylor, Chee-Kam etc.

Pretty long list of players who didn't want to come here, just within past few years.
 
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264721) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264638) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264629) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264621) said:
We are the ONLY NRL club that is unable to sign an elite player. Dogs, Titans, Knights have been regularly performing worse than us yet they sign several origin players, titans obviously with their recent raids and even the Dogs could sign Cotric. Yes they overpaid players but it kick starts their rebuild. We’re still in our 9th consecutive year of rebuilding and are still tipped to get the spoon next year.

Cool bananas looking forward to how those ongoing Bulldogs, Titans and Knights rebuilds are going. Bulldogs and Titans in particular, many many good decisions over many years of success.

I specifically asked where 10-20% overs comes from. Also "least desirable" and "immense issues selling ourselves".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You say yourself you are dealing in crumbs.

We just signed the captain of one of the Grand Final sides, but apparently we cannot sell ourselves.

We did sign the ex Captain of Penrith but some context needs to be given. After all, most would agree that while he has been a very good player, he is in the twilight years of his career.

The fact his family didn't want to move the kids from their school, basically made us the only optiion

Why is that? Nine teams in Sydney.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264723) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264721) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264638) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264629) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264621) said:
We are the ONLY NRL club that is unable to sign an elite player. Dogs, Titans, Knights have been regularly performing worse than us yet they sign several origin players, titans obviously with their recent raids and even the Dogs could sign Cotric. Yes they overpaid players but it kick starts their rebuild. We’re still in our 9th consecutive year of rebuilding and are still tipped to get the spoon next year.

Cool bananas looking forward to how those ongoing Bulldogs, Titans and Knights rebuilds are going. Bulldogs and Titans in particular, many many good decisions over many years of success.

I specifically asked where 10-20% overs comes from. Also "least desirable" and "immense issues selling ourselves".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You say yourself you are dealing in crumbs.

We just signed the captain of one of the Grand Final sides, but apparently we cannot sell ourselves.

We did sign the ex Captain of Penrith but some context needs to be given. After all, most would agree that while he has been a very good player, he is in the twilight years of his career.

The fact his family didn't want to move the kids from their school, basically made us the only optiion

Why is that? Nine teams in Sydney.

Because none of them wanted him
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264722) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264719) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264688) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264685) said:
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

ouch


don't read or listen to anything Hooper produces from his back passage

It's the truth.

You might not want to read or hear about it, but it's fairly obvious players don't want to come here.

Tamou, Blore, Douiehi, BJ, Luciano, Garner, Stefano, Hoffman, Simpkin, Tuilagi, Reynolds, Mbye, Packer, Walters, Musgrove, Fonua, Thompson, Lolohea, Taylor, Chee-Kam etc.

Pretty long list of players who didn't want to come here, just within past few years.

Rule out Nuffies and guys released/discarded by their prior club and this list is virtually non-existant
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264719) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264688) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1264685) said:
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/players-don-t-want-to-go-there-james-hooper-ryan-girdler-rip-into-the-wests-tigers-169337

ouch


don't read or listen to anything Hooper produces from his back passage

It's the truth.

You might not want to read or hear about it, but it's fairly obvious players don't want to come here.


its not the truth
its the truth as some people see it
This has raised its ugly head again as a result of unsubstantiated rumours about JAC - if he really didn't want to be be here because he didn't want to work under Maguire - why did he sign the HOA?

Not saying we are a premier destination like Storm or Roosters but that has always been the case - when was the last really high profile Australian/SOO rep that signed with us **in his prime**? (not on his way out). All of the WT best have come from within (Ellis being the exception but he's a pom)

I just don't buy into the whole " hand wringing, slit my wrists, oh woe betide the tigers - everyone here are incompetent idiots and I myself could do better bs " that some posters here carry on with or the click bait crap that masquerades as journalism these days.
 

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