Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[sleeve]

No doubting his ability -he is brilliant,but for the money he wants i think it could be better spent.

 

[happy_tiger]

Getting some money ball vibes off our recruitment at the moment

These guys might not work out but they’ve got a point to prove and at their best can be damaging players to play against. Madge and hartigan have once again managed to find some decent signing options when it looked like there wasn’t any

Fingers crossed we do okay next year and can entice some big names to join us

If they don't work out they are failures ...whether you paid 150 k or 750 k for them

They’re still failures but for $150k you’re not too upset by it. I think Joe O is a riskier signing he was pretty average this year and is on good money. It’ll hurt us if Madge can’t get him to perform

Ahh the old “if Madge can get him to perform”.

If this forum is be believed, his wife has been sick, which would mess any player up. Isaako had a similarly tough year losing his father.

His wife clearly had cancer dude . There’s plenty of photos of her going through that process . Its funny how insensitive people are , with other people’s grief and stress . Bosses be like “ we are a family , come to me if you need a chat “ , also bosses “your performance has been poor this year , you need to pick your act up “ totally forgetting the reason you went to them in the first place . Narcissism to the max .

My concern is a bloke who had a brand new bub and a sick Mrs being asleep drunk behind the wheel of his car

If he was my brother I'd give him a clip and tell him to wake up to himself


If he was a rogue like an Allan Langer or Munster you could cop it .....he isn't in their leagues .....me I'd pass on him

 

[TigerWest]

Getting some money ball vibes off our recruitment at the moment

These guys might not work out but they’ve got a point to prove and at their best can be damaging players to play against. Madge and hartigan have once again managed to find some decent signing options when it looked like there wasn’t any

Fingers crossed we do okay next year and can entice some big names to join us

If they don't work out they are failures ...whether you paid 150 k or 750 k for them

They’re still failures but for $150k you’re not too upset by it. I think Joe O is a riskier signing he was pretty average this year and is on good money. It’ll hurt us if Madge can’t get him to perform

Ahh the old “if Madge can get him to perform”.

If this forum is be believed, his wife has been sick, which would mess any player up. Isaako had a similarly tough year losing his father.

His wife clearly had cancer dude . There’s plenty of photos of her going through that process . Its funny how insensitive people are , with other people’s grief and stress . Bosses be like “ we are a family , come to me if you need a chat “ , also bosses “your performance has been poor this year , you need to pick your act up “ totally forgetting the reason you went to them in the first place . Narcissism to the max .

My concern is a bloke who had a brand new bub and a sick Mrs being asleep drunk behind the wheel of his car

If he was my brother I'd give him a clip and tell him to wake up to himself


If he was a rogue like an Allan Langer or Munster you could cop it .....he isn't in their leagues .....me I'd pass on him

I hope you are a big strong bloke to clip him around the ear??

 

[happy_tiger]

Getting some money ball vibes off our recruitment at the moment

These guys might not work out but they’ve got a point to prove and at their best can be damaging players to play against. Madge and hartigan have once again managed to find some decent signing options when it looked like there wasn’t any

Fingers crossed we do okay next year and can entice some big names to join us

If they don't work out they are failures ...whether you paid 150 k or 750 k for them

They’re still failures but for $150k you’re not too upset by it. I think Joe O is a riskier signing he was pretty average this year and is on good money. It’ll hurt us if Madge can’t get him to perform

Ahh the old “if Madge can get him to perform”.

If this forum is be believed, his wife has been sick, which would mess any player up. Isaako had a similarly tough year losing his father.

His wife clearly had cancer dude . There’s plenty of photos of her going through that process . Its funny how insensitive people are , with other people’s grief and stress . Bosses be like “ we are a family , come to me if you need a chat “ , also bosses “your performance has been poor this year , you need to pick your act up “ totally forgetting the reason you went to them in the first place . Narcissism to the max .

My concern is a bloke who had a brand new bub and a sick Mrs being asleep drunk behind the wheel of his car

If he was my brother I'd give him a clip and tell him to wake up to himself


If he was a rogue like an Allan Langer or Munster you could cop it .....he isn't in their leagues .....me I'd pass on him

I hope you are a big strong bloke to clip him around the ear??

Nah older brothers can do that ...sometimes lol

 

[Geo]

Getting some money ball vibes off our recruitment at the moment

These guys might not work out but they’ve got a point to prove and at their best can be damaging players to play against. Madge and hartigan have once again managed to find some decent signing options when it looked like there wasn’t any

Fingers crossed we do okay next year and can entice some big names to join us

If they don't work out they are failures ...whether you paid 150 k or 750 k for them

They’re still failures but for $150k you’re not too upset by it. I think Joe O is a riskier signing he was pretty average this year and is on good money. It’ll hurt us if Madge can’t get him to perform

You don't take risks with salary caps ...simple ...who was the last risk that worked for us

Luciano Leilua..

Not for the alleged money spent he wasn't

How much

 

[happy_tiger]

Getting some money ball vibes off our recruitment at the moment

These guys might not work out but they’ve got a point to prove and at their best can be damaging players to play against. Madge and hartigan have once again managed to find some decent signing options when it looked like there wasn’t any

Fingers crossed we do okay next year and can entice some big names to join us

If they don't work out they are failures ...whether you paid 150 k or 750 k for them

They’re still failures but for $150k you’re not too upset by it. I think Joe O is a riskier signing he was pretty average this year and is on good money. It’ll hurt us if Madge can’t get him to perform

You don't take risks with salary caps ...simple ...who was the last risk that worked for us

Luciano Leilua..

Not for the alleged money spent he wasn't

How much

About 375 k from memory

 

[barnzee]

No JAC and we have now let McIntyre go. To date all we have bought is Tamou, Stefano and get back Momo. 2021 is shaping up to be a long season. With some of this season's weaker teams looking stonger on paper I think WT will finish near the bottom of the ladder. 14 spot is my prediction. My other prediction is Maguire's coaching position will be under pressure and fodder for the papers who dislike WT. Bring on the cricket please.

Who is then 9?

Everything is ok above except Tamou, Stefano and Momo don't have 9 on their backs.

Reynolds?
Liddle for 40 minutes, sure.

IMHO if we are loosing Grant lets hire Brandon Smith. We need a fulltime 9 and a burst 9.

We don't need another 9 - we need second rower or a ball playing lock imo,

Then who is your 9? I agree, next signing should be lock, but who is your 9?

Little can't be relied on to make the year. I hope he does, but odds are he will get injured again.

9 without doubt is Liddle - there is no reason he can't play 80 min. with the pre season behind him
will be just as fit as any other player in the NRL. An injury like his knee was an accident and can
happen to every player. With his build up in rehab and the pre season I am confident he will be just
as big a chance to finish the season as any other player in our squad.

He is a brilliant 9, great passing game that will help all our players, quick from DH and a very good
defender. He will have to work on his kicking game in the pre season (that is where Robbie comes
in - if at all) to make him the complete DH imo.

Not one try assist in 40 odd games is a bit of a concern though mate

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

No JAC and we have now let McIntyre go. To date all we have bought is Tamou, Stefano and get back Momo. 2021 is shaping up to be a long season. With some of this season's weaker teams looking stonger on paper I think WT will finish near the bottom of the ladder. 14 spot is my prediction. My other prediction is Maguire's coaching position will be under pressure and fodder for the papers who dislike WT. Bring on the cricket please.

Who is then 9?

Everything is ok above except Tamou, Stefano and Momo don't have 9 on their backs.

Reynolds?
Liddle for 40 minutes, sure.

IMHO if we are loosing Grant lets hire Brandon Smith. We need a fulltime 9 and a burst 9.

We don't need another 9 - we need second rower or a ball playing lock imo,

Then who is your 9? I agree, next signing should be lock, but who is your 9?

Little can't be relied on to make the year. I hope he does, but odds are he will get injured again.

9 without doubt is Liddle - there is no reason he can't play 80 min. with the pre season behind him
will be just as fit as any other player in the NRL. An injury like his knee was an accident and can
happen to every player. With his build up in rehab and the pre season I am confident he will be just
as big a chance to finish the season as any other player in our squad.

He is a brilliant 9, great passing game that will help all our players, quick from DH and a very good
defender. He will have to work on his kicking game in the pre season (that is where Robbie comes
in - if at all) to make him the complete DH imo.

Yeah Liddle for me too, his passing game is spot on and his speed is still apparently electric. I would like to see Simpkin off the bench though, and i wonder after his stint whether we could play him like we did Grant towards the back end of the season. Stay on as a roaming forward maybe tough on a young bloke but he is big enough and nuggety enough to cope i reckon.

 

[BAGNF05]

Grubly Telegraph just dropped a Sirro to Tigers story, behind a paywall. It’s definitely not gonna happen if they’re writing about it.

 

[cochise]

The Joe deal hinges on Brisbane and how much off his contract they will cover. This one has developed very quick!

Asiata is lined up for the Broncos and they are fairly desperate to offload money. Kevie and Cartwright are smart operators and recognises the importance of getting the longer contracts off the book in order to re-sign Staggs, Coates and Nui.

Joe has agreed to the deal we have presented. Brisbane are paying a very large portion of Jack Birds contact (around 500k for 2021) and don't want to pay a big portion of Joe's.

Although, admittedly I do not know the full specifics of what was agreed, the deal will be subsided by Brisbane to some degree.

After Joe, there would likely only be one more and that would wrap it up for the 2021 squad (dependent on other player movements/departures).

Would one assume that we are happy enough with the portion the Broncos are prepared to pay seeing as though the Insta thing has happened today?

Really not sure, especially considering that happened today by all accounts?

Sorry, i don't really pay attention or put too much stock into what players do or do not do on social media. I only base things off what i personally know/hear.

Despite the negativity at times on the fourm, there is a lot to be positive of. Considering the challenges that the club faces and the difficulties the club sometimes faces with recruitment (considering we do not have the pull of the Roosters, Souths or Melbourne), I personally believe that we are doing a really good job overall with recruitment. Despite the criticism that the club gets in the media and from some fans, Madge and Hartigan especially have really shown class in rising above it all and persisting in improving this team in the best way they possibly can. Lesser operators would not be able step up and rise beyond the criticism the way they have.

It is not an easy job, the fact that they have taken it on head first, not taken an easy way out and shown their willingness to stick with it and sign on long term is admirable. Quite frankly, it's exactly what this club needs and is the kind of mindset that will deliver a stability that will eventually resonate with the high profile recruits.

Hartigan is such an impressive individual, I have no doubt that he will make smart decisions.

 

[BalmainJnr]

The Joe deal hinges on Brisbane and how much off his contract they will cover. This one has developed very quick!

Asiata is lined up for the Broncos and they are fairly desperate to offload money. Kevie and Cartwright are smart operators and recognises the importance of getting the longer contracts off the book in order to re-sign Staggs, Coates and Nui.

Joe has agreed to the deal we have presented. Brisbane are paying a very large portion of Jack Birds contact (around 500k for 2021) and don't want to pay a big portion of Joe's.

Although, admittedly I do not know the full specifics of what was agreed, the deal will be subsided by Brisbane to some degree.

After Joe, there would likely only be one more and that would wrap it up for the 2021 squad (dependent on other player movements/departures).

Would one assume that we are happy enough with the portion the Broncos are prepared to pay seeing as though the Insta thing has happened today?

Really not sure, especially considering that happened today by all accounts?

Sorry, i don't really pay attention or put too much stock into what players do or do not do on social media. I only base things off what i personally know/hear.

Despite the negativity at times on the fourm, there is a lot to be positive of. Considering the challenges that the club faces and the difficulties the club sometimes faces with recruitment (considering we do not have the pull of the Roosters, Souths or Melbourne), I personally believe that we are doing a really good job overall with recruitment. Despite the criticism that the club gets in the media and from some fans, Madge and Hartigan especially have really shown class in rising above it all and persisting in improving this team in the best way they possibly can. Lesser operators would not be able step up and rise beyond the criticism the way they have.

It is not an easy job, the fact that they have taken it on head first, not taken an easy way out and shown their willingness to stick with it and sign on long term is admirable. Quite frankly, it's exactly what this club needs and is the kind of mindset that will deliver a stability that will eventually resonate with the high profile recruits.

Really quality post! With Hartigan, Madge, Woodward along with Pascoe and Hagipantelis we have some key individuals in place to drag us out of the mire. There is a lot we can take out of the transactions of the past week that highlight this. Press on WT.

 

[cochise]

The Joe deal hinges on Brisbane and how much off his contract they will cover. This one has developed very quick!

Asiata is lined up for the Broncos and they are fairly desperate to offload money. Kevie and Cartwright are smart operators and recognises the importance of getting the longer contracts off the book in order to re-sign Staggs, Coates and Nui.

Joe has agreed to the deal we have presented. Brisbane are paying a very large portion of Jack Birds contact (around 500k for 2021) and don't want to pay a big portion of Joe's.

Although, admittedly I do not know the full specifics of what was agreed, the deal will be subsided by Brisbane to some degree.

After Joe, there would likely only be one more and that would wrap it up for the 2021 squad (dependent on other player movements/departures).

Would one assume that we are happy enough with the portion the Broncos are prepared to pay seeing as though the Insta thing has happened today?

Really not sure, especially considering that happened today by all accounts?

Sorry, i don't really pay attention or put too much stock into what players do or do not do on social media. I only base things off what i personally know/hear.

Despite the negativity at times on the fourm, there is a lot to be positive of. Considering the challenges that the club faces and the difficulties the club sometimes faces with recruitment (considering we do not have the pull of the Roosters, Souths or Melbourne), I personally believe that we are doing a really good job overall with recruitment. Despite the criticism that the club gets in the media and from some fans, Madge and Hartigan especially have really shown class in rising above it all and persisting in improving this team in the best way they possibly can. Lesser operators would not be able step up and rise beyond the criticism the way they have.

It is not an easy job, the fact that they have taken it on head first, not taken an easy way out and shown their willingness to stick with it and sign on long term is admirable. Quite frankly, it's exactly what this club needs and is the kind of mindset that will deliver a stability that will eventually resonate with the high profile recruits.

Really quality post! With Hartigan, Madge, Woodward along with Pascoe and Hagipantelis we have some key individuals in place to drag us out of the mire. There is a lot we can take out of the transactions of the past week that highlight this. Press on WT.

I am happy with how the last week has gone for the club.

 

[compensate]

Someone send the full article, it’s behind a paywall
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrl-2020-james-roberts-signs-with-wests-tigers-on-2-year-contract-sports-confidential%2Fnews-story%2F62ce703f3aa84169e028a03bd03e5759&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

 

[Masterton]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

 

[JC99]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

 

[the_third]

Maybe I’m just getting old, but the fact someone would know who some random footy player has followed and unfollowed on Instagram speaks volumes for where are as a society.

As Lady Gaga puts it “social media is the toilet of the internet”

 

[JC99]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.