pawsandclaws1
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@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271183) said:
Twice he chose to leave. I cannot fathom the mindset of wanting him back.
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Twice he chose to leave. I cannot fathom the mindset of wanting him back.
weststigerman
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271189) said:
So you don't want Paps or JAC back. Gotcha.
twentyforty
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271189) said:
Young players will go to a club with strong administration and the ability to progress them toward reaching their full potential.
Clearly WT was not that club at the time. Nowhere near it. I admire Teddy for making some sound career decisions .
Blind loyalty is for fans.
pawsandclaws1
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@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271190) said:
The Club wants JAC to return and have made every effort to get him to return. Papenhuyzen is under contract.
Your gotcha is flacid.
weststigerman
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271193) said:
So why the hate for Tedesco? He only left once, he backflipped the first time. Oh that's right, he's not a balmain junior.
JAC knocked us back just 2 weeks ago. He's not coming back either.
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271160) said:
DANGER DANGER DANGER
This is what has gotten us in this Salary Cap debacle for the past decade
GNR4LIFE
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The Dogs are going to be a thorn in our side. They have lots of money. Don’t get Barrett’s appeal. I know everyone likes to give him credit for Penrith’s attack, but that credit would be a lot more plausible if he hadn’t already failed as head coach at Manly.
pawsandclaws1
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@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271196) said:
I don't hate him. Really its like being friend zoned by your ex and coming back twice for the humiliation of being rejected twice more.. Once you are friends zoned, you don't get out if it. Have some dignity, trust your investment in juniors and back them.
weststigerman
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271204) said:
That is literally the same scenario with Paps.
I'm not going to bother arguing this any further but I'll leave you with some quotes from your ex:
“I moved for the opportunity, it was a big decision. You hear how good Melbourne is. You see all these players come from positions like what I was in and become great players.
“I wanted to be that. I knew Billy (Slater) would be my mentor and I’ve admired his game for a long time.
“It was a no-brainer in the end. I made the decision to head south.”
weststigerman
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@Spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271197) said:
I think it's signing non elite players like Mbye and Reynolds on the same sort of money that got us into this mess.
I like the Titans approach, Fifita is on huge money, but it's only for the shortish term and helps attract players in the interim.
Interesting read from the DT if true that the dogs are now tossing up between going after Crighton or JAC considering dogs have recently met with JAC.
This article is from the The Daily Telegraph issue of Thursday, 26 Nov
Burton in the bag & a quality dilemma
A FUTURE NSW Origin star - or the Blues’ fastest man?
This is the enviable dilemma that suddenly confronts the Canterbury brains trust who are deliberating over whether to pursue outstanding Penrith centre Stephen Crichton or NSW Origin and Storm flyer Josh Addo-Carr .
Although Canterbury can’t afford to sign both, it illustrates how quickly things have changed at Belmore.
Just over 12 months after being frozen out of the transfer market by a lopsided salary cap, the Bulldogs are the club that every other rival is looking over their shoulder at.
The Dogs’ next step in their recruitment is to add legitimate speed and attacking strike to their backline and it’s Crichton or Addo-Carr who they want.
Crichton has told those close to him his preference is to extend his future beyond his current 2021 deal at Penrith, while the Dogs believe that it could take as much as $700,000 a season to prize the Blues extended squad member out of his current home.
That size salary for a centre is elitelevel money with Kiwi Test centre Joey Manu on an equivalent contract at the Roosters.
But the Bulldogs - like the rest of the code - know how much upside and talent Crichton has.
Which is why the Bulldogs are in the process of weighing up their financial capability to make a serious play for Crichton, or whether to continue chasing Addo-Carr , who toured the club’s facilities this week.
Addo-Carr isn‘t available until the end of his current contract with the Storm at the end of 2021.
One thing is for certain: the Dogs are on a roll. With money to spend and coach Trent Barrett promising a new way for Canterbury, the club pulled off yet another major coup on Wednesday with the acquisition of talented Penrith half Matt Burton.
As first revealed by The Daily Telegraph online yesterday, Burton has penned a two-year deal from 2022 with an option in his favour for a third season. Penrith were never a chance to match the Bulldogs and the Sharks offers - who also offered Burton a deal of close to $620,000 a season.
Barrett‘s relationship with Burton, having worked together over the past 12-months at Penrith, was what knocked the Sharks out of the race.
Burton still has next season to run on his contract at Penrith, but it’s almost certain that the 20-year-old and his management will request a release to join the Bulldogs immediately.
Penrith are adamant they won’t be forthcoming with a release unless there is a suitable replacement or swap player offered.
“Having someone of Matt’s ability want to be part of what we are building here at Belmore is exciting for everyone involved at the club and all our Members and fans,’’ Bulldogs CEO Andrew Hill said.
Burton will be given first shot at steering the new-look Dogs in 2021 alongside fellow Bulldogs recruit and halfback Kyle Flanagan.
Burton, who has been targeted as a five-eighth to play alongside Sydney Roosters recruit and halfback Kyle Flanagan, has informed the Bulldogs he’s committed to joining the club on a two-year deal with the potential for an option for a third year. Burton is contracted to Penrith until the end of 2021 — and will now be drawn into debate on whether he will request an immediate release for next season.
The rookie playmaker informed Penrith coach Ivan Cleary and Cronulla , who were also chasing his signature , of his decision on Tuesday. With Burton set to depart, the Panthers will focus on retaining star young centre Stephen Crichton, who has also attracted attention from rival clubs.
Crichton, 19, is under contract until the end of next year, with Penrith’s new offer, if successful, to take him off the market until after 2024
Copyright © 2020 News Pty Limited
This article is from the The Daily Telegraph issue of Thursday, 26 Nov
Burton in the bag & a quality dilemma
A FUTURE NSW Origin star - or the Blues’ fastest man?
This is the enviable dilemma that suddenly confronts the Canterbury brains trust who are deliberating over whether to pursue outstanding Penrith centre Stephen Crichton or NSW Origin and Storm flyer Josh Addo-Carr .
Although Canterbury can’t afford to sign both, it illustrates how quickly things have changed at Belmore.
Just over 12 months after being frozen out of the transfer market by a lopsided salary cap, the Bulldogs are the club that every other rival is looking over their shoulder at.
The Dogs’ next step in their recruitment is to add legitimate speed and attacking strike to their backline and it’s Crichton or Addo-Carr who they want.
Crichton has told those close to him his preference is to extend his future beyond his current 2021 deal at Penrith, while the Dogs believe that it could take as much as $700,000 a season to prize the Blues extended squad member out of his current home.
That size salary for a centre is elitelevel money with Kiwi Test centre Joey Manu on an equivalent contract at the Roosters.
But the Bulldogs - like the rest of the code - know how much upside and talent Crichton has.
Which is why the Bulldogs are in the process of weighing up their financial capability to make a serious play for Crichton, or whether to continue chasing Addo-Carr , who toured the club’s facilities this week.
Addo-Carr isn‘t available until the end of his current contract with the Storm at the end of 2021.
One thing is for certain: the Dogs are on a roll. With money to spend and coach Trent Barrett promising a new way for Canterbury, the club pulled off yet another major coup on Wednesday with the acquisition of talented Penrith half Matt Burton.
As first revealed by The Daily Telegraph online yesterday, Burton has penned a two-year deal from 2022 with an option in his favour for a third season. Penrith were never a chance to match the Bulldogs and the Sharks offers - who also offered Burton a deal of close to $620,000 a season.
Barrett‘s relationship with Burton, having worked together over the past 12-months at Penrith, was what knocked the Sharks out of the race.
Burton still has next season to run on his contract at Penrith, but it’s almost certain that the 20-year-old and his management will request a release to join the Bulldogs immediately.
Penrith are adamant they won’t be forthcoming with a release unless there is a suitable replacement or swap player offered.
“Having someone of Matt’s ability want to be part of what we are building here at Belmore is exciting for everyone involved at the club and all our Members and fans,’’ Bulldogs CEO Andrew Hill said.
Burton will be given first shot at steering the new-look Dogs in 2021 alongside fellow Bulldogs recruit and halfback Kyle Flanagan.
Burton, who has been targeted as a five-eighth to play alongside Sydney Roosters recruit and halfback Kyle Flanagan, has informed the Bulldogs he’s committed to joining the club on a two-year deal with the potential for an option for a third year. Burton is contracted to Penrith until the end of 2021 — and will now be drawn into debate on whether he will request an immediate release for next season.
The rookie playmaker informed Penrith coach Ivan Cleary and Cronulla , who were also chasing his signature , of his decision on Tuesday. With Burton set to depart, the Panthers will focus on retaining star young centre Stephen Crichton, who has also attracted attention from rival clubs.
Crichton, 19, is under contract until the end of next year, with Penrith’s new offer, if successful, to take him off the market until after 2024
Copyright © 2020 News Pty Limited
mikey
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@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271148) said:
Just like used toilet paper - once you've done your job for Nick it's down the black hole.
mikey
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@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271190) said:
I think there is a difference - Tedesco has always been a mercenary focussed on me, me , me.
Paps was behind in the pecking order - took an opportunity.
JAC the jury is out on but on the surface he didn't screw us over.
Jedi_Tiger
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@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271196) said:
no teddy strung us along should have said earlier that he was going to the roosters we would have likely kept Paps. Teddy is a great player but a no due to age in 2022.
Munster would be a good target instead
pawsandclaws1
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With big dollars being paid to inexperienced players such as Burton and Suaali, we need to be careful about its impact on other players in the sheds and team harmony. I'm glad we are now orientated towards more balanced contracts. There will always be an exception for rep players.
Roar_Power
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Where does Cronulla get $620k to offer Burton per season? Aren't they cap strapped with the amount of high paid players in their side?
tony soprano
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@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271202) said:
Can still raid juniors while they are going after marquee
facepalmer
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@Curly_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1271005) said:
My greatest claim to fame is having started this thread lol
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