Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[JC99]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

He’s on a train and trial deal. Prop/second rower from Souths, played origin U20’s for NSW.

 

[JC99]

Mcinnes would be a very smart buy that allows us to hedge our bets.

If Simpkins or liddle work out, then Cam slots into 13.

If they don't, or have injuries, he becomes our 9.

Clever roster management.

Rubbish roster management in my opinion. McInnes is nothing like the type of player we need in 2021 and beyond. He is honest and tries his best every week, but don't we have enough of them already?

Not really at all. Most of our blokes can’t string 3 good games together ?. McInnes plays well every single week at a high level.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

 

[tony soprano]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Young bloke forward Madge brought through at Souths.

 

[Bones]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

McInnes is contracted next year so he won’t solve that problem anyway.

 

[Spartan117]

Mcinnes would be a very smart buy that allows us to hedge our bets.

If Simpkins or liddle work out, then Cam slots into 13.

If they don't, or have injuries, he becomes our 9.

Clever roster management.

Not so sure.

Again CamMcI is a good hard toiler and 6/10 hooker. He started to struggle at 13 for the dragons after a few games.

Theres onlynso much Heart can deliver, he doesn't have the body type to be effective at 13 for a full season.

I think our money is better spent somewhere else on a player that is best in class in His position.

We need to get our next marquee as just that, a true marquee and not a slightly above average player on marquee dollars.

No more desperation recruitment....

 

[Speed2burn]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

I found the comments about Stef weird too, blore has been pretty vocal about him being the fittest forward at the club

But For a guy on a train and trial contract to visibly impress the coaching staff, who from quick research was a fringe player for souffs at best is interesting though

 

[tony soprano]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

I found the comments about Stef weird too, blore has been pretty vocal about him being the fittest forward at the club

But For a guy on a train and trial contract to visibly impress the coaching staff, who from quick research was a fringe player for souffs at best is interesting though

Think he has been injured a lot .

 

[mike]

incase anyone else is wondering why were talking Mcinnes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/kja964/cameron_mcinnes_recently_met_with_wests_tigers/

The guy has grit and we need that. The floating of him between Lock and Hooker worked for St George this year... This I think would play into Liddle and the more fast pace we see from League.

Yet,
Simpkins seems to be a long term prospect. I would not block him with McInnes. A Two year contract could do that. Dragons were not finals material, the Storm and Canberra were, Both Josh Hodgson and Brandon Smith offer a fair bit more then McInnes. Even then if I wanted to recruit someone it would still be Angus Crichton. When we gave our all VS Parramatta I applauded our team, but we got steamrolled in spite of us putting our best efforts. We just won't get there without good forwards and it really doesn't matter if it's any of the above in Nr9 if our forward pack isn't going forward.

That Cheese bloke makes an impact on games through sheer enthusiasm, much like Josh Reynolds in his prime. Skills-wise Cheese would be about the 12th best hooker in the league, he doesn't have many strings to his bow at all IMO.


That's a big call, can you post the 11 that you think are in front of him?

Skills-wise? Sure. Hodgson, Liddle, Mahoney, Korisau, the stabber from Manly, the balding flog from Storm, Friend, both the Braileys, McCulluch, Grant, Granville. How many short?

I'm assuming your list isn't in order? and it's also 2 short. Skill-wise you're dreaming

You also forgot McInnes

**2020 stats**

Hodgson - 9 games, 0 tries, 37 metres/pg
Liddle - 6 games, 1 try, 49 metres p/g
Mahoney - 21 games, 6 tries, 25 metres p/g
Korosiau - 20 games, 3 tries, 57 meters p/g
Jayden Brailey - 2 games, 0 tries, 21 metres p/g
Blayke Brailey - 20 games, 4 tries, 43 metres p/g
McCullough -10 games, 2 tries, 37.4 metres p/g
Grant - 15 games, 3 tries, 88 metres p/g
Granville - 8 games, 0 tries, 50 metres p/g

McInness - 18 games, 1 try, 120 metres p/g

Brandon Smith. - 18 games, 3 tries, 118 metres p/g

By my calculation that puts Brandon on top slightly ahead of McIness.

Do yourself a favour mate and have a look at the stats before you post rubbish

Context is King. Raw stats are meaningless on their own. You have to ask yourself how did McInnes and Smith make so many meters? The answer is it wasn’t while they were playing 9. So you need to take those meters and games, where they played in other positions, out of the stats to compare apples with apples.


Stats mean everything, it's how a coach, talent manager and the club rates a players strengths and weaknesses, from there they can build a plan to improve their skills and rectify any flaws.

You can argue that stats don't always show results eg. Benji this year, but in the case of B Smith, he produced and the Storm won the premiership.

He is definitely not the 12th ranked hooker in the nrl as stated by @Fade-To-Black

Without context stats are meaningless. Without context you are not comparing apples with apples. You are basing decisions on incomplete information. Basically you are setting yourself up to fail.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

I found the comments about Stef weird too, blore has been pretty vocal about him being the fittest forward at the club

But For a guy on a train and trial contract to visibly impress the coaching staff, who from quick research was a fringe player for souffs at best is interesting though

Hmm. I didn’t even think if Stef when I wrote my post. Forward pack and rotation is going to be interesting. Garner absolutely on notice I reckon

 

[Deleted member 3518]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch

That’s not true . Liddle played like 15 minutes a game at most . We let in most of our points around the ruck when grant and Mikalele were standing next to Garner benji and BJ.
Whether that’s because guys were burnt out , couldn’t tackle or were just old or fat , whatever . That has nothing to do with Liddle .

No mate, I’m talking about the 3 mid-season games where Liddle played 80 almost every week whilst Harry was missing. We went from conceding 17 average points per game with Harry, to 33 with Liddle

@gazlord95 showed you what you’re saying is not true . He played 2 games , 1 we beat the dogs , the other for walloped by the roosters . Like I said , it was also around the time we were playing injured middles . Reserve graders and guys like Packer . To even remotely imply it was Liddle just shows how ridiculous you’re perception is .
I’m not saying he’s an amazing defender , but he did just come back from a knee reco , and I thought he played pretty well.
Grant was not good the last 10 weeks . He just wasn’t . And that’s understandable , it’s his first year in first grade . His defence wasn’t good either . But I don’t blame him. The reality is , We went backwards every time Mikalele and who ever was his opposite for that game came on .
People point to missed tackle efficiency, but I would love to see how many tries were scored through his gap whilst he was on .

I’m sorry , I don’t think the gap between Liddle and grant is that great . What we saw last year is 1 guy on the positive side of his form guide and another on the negative .

I have faith in Liddle and I rate him . I see Damien Cook , big time in him . Even to the point he hasn’t come on until his mid twenties .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

 

[Holden]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch

That’s not true . Liddle played like 15 minutes a game at most . We let in most of our points around the ruck when grant and Mikalele were standing next to Garner benji and BJ.
Whether that’s because guys were burnt out , couldn’t tackle or were just old or fat , whatever . That has nothing to do with Liddle .

No mate, I’m talking about the 3 mid-season games where Liddle played 80 almost every week whilst Harry was missing. We went from conceding 17 average points per game with Harry, to 33 with Liddle

@gazlord95 showed you what you’re saying is not true . He played 2 games , 1 we beat the dogs , the other for walloped by the roosters . Like I said , it was also around the time we were playing injured middles . Reserve graders and guys like Packer . To even remotely imply it was Liddle just shows how ridiculous you’re perception is .
I’m not saying he’s an amazing defender , but he did just come back from a knee reco , and I thought he played pretty well.
Grant was not good the last 10 weeks . He just wasn’t . And that’s understandable , it’s his first year in first grade . His defence wasn’t good either . But I don’t blame him. The reality is , We went backwards every time Mikalele and who ever was his opposite for that game came on .
People point to missed tackle efficiency, but I would love to see how many tries were scored through his gap whilst he was on .

I’m sorry , I don’t think the gap between Liddle and grant is that great . What we saw last year is 1 guy on the positive side of his form guide and another on the negative .

I have faith in Liddle and I rate him . I see Damien Cook , big time in him . Even to the point he hasn’t come on until his mid twenties .

I don't 100% agree with you either Strongee, Grant was great, saying he wasn't his "last 10 weeks" when he only played 16 games would just be ridiculous.

I do think liddle probably has more to show and thats where i would agree with you, and I am more than keen to see him having more of a shot next year for it X)

I just think anyone making a judgement on liddle when his had short game time, off a long term injury is making a bizzare snap judgement tbh

 

[Holden]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

I found the comments about Stef weird too, blore has been pretty vocal about him being the fittest forward at the club

But For a guy on a train and trial contract to visibly impress the coaching staff, who from quick research was a fringe player for souffs at best is interesting though

Hey sorry I might be missing something here, who are you referring to when you mention being on a train and trial?

 

[happy_tiger]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch

That’s not true . Liddle played like 15 minutes a game at most . We let in most of our points around the ruck when grant and Mikalele were standing next to Garner benji and BJ.
Whether that’s because guys were burnt out , couldn’t tackle or were just old or fat , whatever . That has nothing to do with Liddle .

No mate, I’m talking about the 3 mid-season games where Liddle played 80 almost every week whilst Harry was missing. We went from conceding 17 average points per game with Harry, to 33 with Liddle

@gazlord95 showed you what you’re saying is not true . He played 2 games , 1 we beat the dogs , the other for walloped by the roosters . Like I said , it was also around the time we were playing injured middles . Reserve graders and guys like Packer . To even remotely imply it was Liddle just shows how ridiculous you’re perception is .
I’m not saying he’s an amazing defender , but he did just come back from a knee reco , and I thought he played pretty well.
Grant was not good the last 10 weeks . He just wasn’t . And that’s understandable , it’s his first year in first grade . His defence wasn’t good either . But I don’t blame him. The reality is , We went backwards every time Mikalele and who ever was his opposite for that game came on .
People point to missed tackle efficiency, but I would love to see how many tries were scored through his gap whilst he was on .

I’m sorry , I don’t think the gap between Liddle and grant is that great . What we saw last year is 1 guy on the positive side of his form guide and another on the negative .

I have faith in Liddle and I rate him . I see Damien Cook , big time in him . Even to the point he hasn’t come on until his mid twenties .

Really hard to tell Strongee ...when Liddle did play he was coming off the back of Grant on most occasions .....


Grant is the 3rd / 4th best best hooker in the comp ...how Hodgson will come back from a 2nd knee injury will be interesting


Where Liddle rates as a hooker is a real doozy ..how can you compare with so little game time and his previous injuries .....thats the big question ...at least a $63995 question

 

[Speed2burn]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

I found the comments about Stef weird too, blore has been pretty vocal about him being the fittest forward at the club

But For a guy on a train and trial contract to visibly impress the coaching staff, who from quick research was a fringe player for souffs at best is interesting though

Hey sorry I might be missing something here, who are you referring to when you mention being on a train and trial?

Refer back to this post from a few pages back >>>


Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we’ve got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn’t commit on AD playing 5/8.

Ky Rodwell is the one on the train and trial contract , youngster we nabbed from souffs apparently

 

[Holden]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch

That’s not true . Liddle played like 15 minutes a game at most . We let in most of our points around the ruck when grant and Mikalele were standing next to Garner benji and BJ.
Whether that’s because guys were burnt out , couldn’t tackle or were just old or fat , whatever . That has nothing to do with Liddle .

No mate, I’m talking about the 3 mid-season games where Liddle played 80 almost every week whilst Harry was missing. We went from conceding 17 average points per game with Harry, to 33 with Liddle

@gazlord95 showed you what you’re saying is not true . He played 2 games , 1 we beat the dogs , the other for walloped by the roosters . Like I said , it was also around the time we were playing injured middles . Reserve graders and guys like Packer . To even remotely imply it was Liddle just shows how ridiculous you’re perception is .
I’m not saying he’s an amazing defender , but he did just come back from a knee reco , and I thought he played pretty well.
Grant was not good the last 10 weeks . He just wasn’t . And that’s understandable , it’s his first year in first grade . His defence wasn’t good either . But I don’t blame him. The reality is , We went backwards every time Mikalele and who ever was his opposite for that game came on .
People point to missed tackle efficiency, but I would love to see how many tries were scored through his gap whilst he was on .

I’m sorry , I don’t think the gap between Liddle and grant is that great . What we saw last year is 1 guy on the positive side of his form guide and another on the negative .

I have faith in Liddle and I rate him . I see Damien Cook , big time in him . Even to the point he hasn’t come on until his mid twenties .

Really hard to tell Strongee ...when Liddle did play he was coming off the back of Grant on most occasions .....


Grant is the 3rd / 4th best best hooker in the comp ...how Hodgson will come back from a 2nd knee injury will be interesting


Where Liddle rates as a hooker is a real doozy ..how can you compare with so little game time and his previous injuries .....thats the big question ...at least a $63995 question

I agree! I think though of all the gambles this club has done on the past, he would be a safe one.

Even if he wasnt, we spent alot of damn money on his rehab and bringing him back in. To drop or disregard him at this point would just be an absolute waste of time and effort tbh. I'd give him a crack for 5-6 games at the start of next season.

 

[Guest]

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we’ve got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn’t commit on AD playing 5/8.

Richard Simmons and the Rankin sisters were all good trainers........but I don't want them in the team.

 

[Holden]

Ky rodwell and billy stempleton look like units

Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we've got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn't commit on AD playing 5/8.

Who is Ky Rodwell? First time I’ve heard of him

Interesting comments from Palmer. His comments are worth listening to. I’d say they must be thinking 2nd row because our front row rotation of Tamou, Twal, Offa, Musgrove seems strong. I’m also thinking Blore to 13 with Luciano and Garner in second row. That leaves bench spots for 2nd hooker and one more. Mikaele I’d think. But maybe Palmer thinking Rodwell gets this spot??

I found the comments about Stef weird too, blore has been pretty vocal about him being the fittest forward at the club

But For a guy on a train and trial contract to visibly impress the coaching staff, who from quick research was a fringe player for souffs at best is interesting though

Hey sorry I might be missing something here, who are you referring to when you mention being on a train and trial?

Refer back to this post from a few pages back >>>


Had a chat with Ron Palmer today, reckons Ky Rodwell is the best trainer at the club and will definitely be in the top 17. Also said Stefano needs to learn how to train and we’ve got more second row candidates than anything else. Wouldn’t commit on AD playing 5/8.

Ky Rodwell is the one on the train and trial contract , youngster we nabbed from souffs apparently

Fair enough, yea I don't enough to comment either, other than to say 100% we will see AD at 5/8 start of the season after his suspension lol

 

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kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch

That’s not true . Liddle played like 15 minutes a game at most . We let in most of our points around the ruck when grant and Mikalele were standing next to Garner benji and BJ.
Whether that’s because guys were burnt out , couldn’t tackle or were just old or fat , whatever . That has nothing to do with Liddle .

No mate, I’m talking about the 3 mid-season games where Liddle played 80 almost every week whilst Harry was missing. We went from conceding 17 average points per game with Harry, to 33 with Liddle

@gazlord95 showed you what you’re saying is not true . He played 2 games , 1 we beat the dogs , the other for walloped by the roosters . Like I said , it was also around the time we were playing injured middles . Reserve graders and guys like Packer . To even remotely imply it was Liddle just shows how ridiculous you’re perception is .
I’m not saying he’s an amazing defender , but he did just come back from a knee reco , and I thought he played pretty well.
Grant was not good the last 10 weeks . He just wasn’t . And that’s understandable , it’s his first year in first grade . His defence wasn’t good either . But I don’t blame him. The reality is , We went backwards every time Mikalele and who ever was his opposite for that game came on .
People point to missed tackle efficiency, but I would love to see how many tries were scored through his gap whilst he was on .

I’m sorry , I don’t think the gap between Liddle and grant is that great . What we saw last year is 1 guy on the positive side of his form guide and another on the negative .

I have faith in Liddle and I rate him . I see Damien Cook , big time in him . Even to the point he hasn’t come on until his mid twenties .

I don't 100% agree with you either Strongee, Grant was great, saying he wasn't his "last 10 weeks" when he only played 16 games would just be ridiculous.

I do think liddle probably has more to show and thats where i would agree with you, and I am more than keen to see him having more of a shot next year for it X)

I just think anyone making a judgement on liddle when his had short game time, off a long term injury is making a bizzare snap judgement tbh

Grant proved how good he is at SOO level against far more credentialed opposition - and was outstanding. To rate Liddle anywhere near him at this point of time seems like wishful thinking.