Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tigerbuck63]

We need to go hard for staggs. Better than Crichton imo and would have no trouble with playing fb.
Absolute class player, worth a mill

Plus he can kick goals.

His manager is trying to push up the market price,as they all do.Chrichton Ibelieve has more promise,but they will be the 2 biggest targets on the market,I would go as high as $800,000 for Crichton,less for Stagg,but Hartigan knows what we need and at what price .A lot chasing these 2,but another star comes along every 6 mths

With the salary cap reduced by 6% and sitting at 9 million now - assume 30 players = $350k average
We are saying that we are willing to pay $800k
Quite a few clubs with Million $ players on the books and i think with the reduction in the cap we need to only 1 marque player at present its Mybe on $950k.....

$300k average with a $9m cap for us, though maybe $350k for those with creative accounting.

Yep i stand corrected, however i was not factoring in the $200k allowance for long term players.
For rounding purposes lets make it $310k average.
That makes Mybe's contract the same as 3 players.

 

[happy_tiger]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Exactly right ...he needs a 20 + game season before any judgments can be made either way

 

[Tigerbuck63]

As reported by the MOLE without revealing the club does any forum members have an insight to which club and the incident that occurred.

RIFTS REMAIN FROM CLUB'S FIERY PRESO NIGHT
One NRL club has some major healing to do before the start of the comp, after a fiery end-of-season presentation night a couple of months back.

Things got heated between both coaching staff and players as the beers flowed after a frustrating season on and off the field.

It's been anything but smooth sailing in the months since and some rifts remain unresolved.

Unless the 'vibe' improves in coming weeks, the club could face a long season.

Cowboys

Well thanks guys so far its the following,
Cowboys x 2 - Although new coach next Season
Eels x 1 - ?????
Knights x 1 - ???? Prior to Pearce indiscretion
Sharks x 1 - Would not surprise me
Broncos x 1 - Already had a recent indiscretion Hass
Manly x 2 - Good luck Josh A if so.

Anyway at least it was not us which is more important lets hope we remain out of the press these next 2 months.

New coach next season ..if you read the issue was apparently between Josh McGuire and Josh Hannay ...the bloke I asked about Simpkins mentioned it ...take the info as you will

No wonder people don't want to mention something they've heard .....

Thanks there was a separate thread i read and they also stated the Cowboys. Never really rated Josh McGuire although has played origin, think he is a grub footballer.

Appreciate the information.

Payten a good coach he won't put up with his crap, so fresh start for the club, Payten will be joined by assistant coaches Dean Young, Steve Georgallis and Ben Rauter but No Josh Hannay. Glad not us and interesting we get all the negative press walking on eggshells but riffs within other clubs hardly get mentioned, hardly seems fair.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Cows definitely sounds plausible. McGuire has a history winding people up

 

[Speed2burn]

I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

Absolutely no doubting grant is a better footballer but I see his point. Liddle straightens our attack whereas grant used to always pass to our halves flat footed. I feel like Liddle is better at engaging the markers but grant is overall the smarter footballer.

Different dummy halves have different arrributes but I reckon Liddles game compliments Brooks more. Straight and direct.

 

[jrtiger]

Liddle and Grant are very different players. while Grant is willing to take matters into his own hands, Liddle will get the forwards rolling and give quality ball to the halves and be more selective with choosing his moments. Liddle will actually be more devastating through the middle in those moments because he's not at top gear on every play like Grant and is much quicker off the mark. our style of play will change simply due to the fact that Liddle's first instinct is to pass to the dominant playmakers, so if anything the pressure falls on our halves even more so this year to get things right.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Who was the main hooker when brooks got dally m. Farah or liddle

 

[Tigerbuck63]

As reported by the MOLE without revealing the club does any forum members have an insight to which club and the incident that occurred.

RIFTS REMAIN FROM CLUB'S FIERY PRESO NIGHT
One NRL club has some major healing to do before the start of the comp, after a fiery end-of-season presentation night a couple of months back.

Things got heated between both coaching staff and players as the beers flowed after a frustrating season on and off the field.

It's been anything but smooth sailing in the months since and some rifts remain unresolved.

Unless the 'vibe' improves in coming weeks, the club could face a long season.

Cowboys

Well thanks guys so far its the following,
Cowboys x 2 - Although new coach next Season
Eels x 1 - ?????
Knights x 1 - ???? Prior to Pearce indiscretion
Sharks x 1 - Would not surprise me
Broncos x 1 - Already had a recent indiscretion Hass
Manly x 2 - Good luck Josh A if so.

Anyway at least it was not us which is more important lets hope we remain out of the press these next 2 months.

New coach next season ..if you read the issue was apparently between Josh McGuire and Josh Hannay ...the bloke I asked about Simpkins mentioned it ...take the info as you will

No wonder people don't want to mention something they've heard .....

Happy has put 50 bucks on cows

For what ???????????

McGuire didn't come to Cows to be coached by Hannay and they obviously didn't click

Not uncommon for outgoing coaches/clubs and unhappy players to clash at Presentation nights ...happens at every level of Rugby League

All a storm in a tea cup,who cares?

I care because my info from a source was questioned

Exactly the reason at times when you hear something you wonder whether you should even tell people on here ...you get treated like crap .....

I don't think you were ever ? its more the fact that lots of forum members were guessing without facts of whom it actually was, myself i wanted clarification to confirm not the WT, and i find it ironic that the Mole never mentioned the club. Appreciate the feedback.

 

[Speed2burn]

Who was the main hooker when brooks got dally m. Farah or liddle

I can’t remember hey. Reading back on 2018 it says Liddle played 13 games so I would say he played a pretty big part of it but I think most were off the bench

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Who was the main hooker when brooks got dally m. Farah or liddle

I can’t remember hey. Reading back on 2018 it says Liddle played 13 games so I would say he played a pretty big part of it but I think most were off the bench

Thanks. My memory is like a sieve

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

I didn’t say that . I knew some of you would read it that way . I said Grants a better footballer, ball plays , close to the line , and creates . But Grants distribution is general play , was dismal . I’m not talking the fancy stuff . I’m talking tackle 3 ,on our own 20m . And from what I’ve seen if liddle , I notice , that in those situations , he will manipulate the markers , with fades of the body , deception with direction of pass etc. which allows the ball runner to get in behind the markers . Farah did this well, he just went superhero mode when we were in the red zone .And that’s where I think he learnt it.
Grant is a player you build the whole gameplan around . Liddle is better 9 for the system we play . If he stays healthy , I’m very confident you will see what I see .

 

[Speed2burn]

Who was the main hooker when brooks got dally m. Farah or liddle

I can’t remember hey. Reading back on 2018 it says Liddle played 13 games so I would say he played a pretty big part of it but I think most were off the bench

Thanks. My memory is like a sieve

Farah 9 games, Liddle 13 at hooker. Godinet, ET and Grub filled in here and there but were barely serviceable

 

[Devon Head]

I heard Cam Mcinness has asked for a release to join tigers on a 4 year deal effective immediately.

Really hope this is true

How much would MacGinness be worth? As a lock $500,000 ?As a 9 $600 to $700,000.Meanwhile we have a backline without a real attacking weapon.I can't understand why every time a lock or DH comes on the market that we have to buy him.Sure i like him,but surely our backline is the main priority.

Without a quality 9 a brilliant backline means squat if the distribution is terrible. 9 is one of the most important positions in a team. Look at the teams who regularly finish top of the comp and name a bad 9? Cam McInnis no only offers you quality distribution but gives you 40-50 tackles a game at about 95% efficiency. The bloke is as tough as they come as well.

Penrith - Api
Melb - Smith
Roosters - Friend
Raiders - Hodgson/Starling if you count last season
Souths - Cook
Eels - Mahoney

Agree,but how do you know we don't have that player here? Simpkin had more wraps then Harry and has not taken the field. Liddle is classy and only played a few games behind a poor pack.As for lock Blore with extra fitness this year or even give Garner a try.

Guess that's the gamble. Simpkins has big wraps and may turn out to be a gun however he hasn't played a single game yet.

 

[Devon Head]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

It’s little things . Like I said he’s not going to win you games with magic no look passes , but he might , with getting his forward in behind the ruck , a quick play the ball then a shift through the halves , to the big speedy backs we have now.
He just won’t get the credit for it , because everyone will say “great hitup from Tamou” or whatever .
And that’s the stuff , that I think wins in this new era. Momentum . This is what I’ve seen since his first game. In 2018 we made a lot of metres out of our own half . This year we didn’t . I’m purely commenting in conventional dummy half skills . Not the Cam Smith version of what a dummy half is , as most players just don’t have that type of skill set .

 

[Blocker1963]

With Liddle, the knee issue was caused by one of our own (TT), doesn't matter how strong your legs were, you would not have survived without serious injury, it was a big impact, his historic issues were with shoulders, being played when under developed. He is a very good 9, and will add a lot to the Team with a few more games under his belt. Young Simpkins is untried, but has big wraps, so its wait and see.

 

[Speed2burn]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

I think the fact the club has persisted with him for so long speaks volumes. Could have easily just not renewed him and let him rot away but the club keeps investing time in him and he gets first crack at 9. Now it’s time for him to repay the faith.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

For Liddle's own sake i hope he comes good this season, he has had setbacks but commend him doing the Rehab.

Farah training with both Hookers think we will see a mixture of both at various times. Should of also picked up how Grant plays and incorporated some of the good parts into there own games.

If Liddle does pick up another long term injury i doubt the WT will preserve with him when contract expires.

 

[JC99]

I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

I didn’t say that . I knew some of you would read it that way . I said Grants a better footballer, ball plays , close to the line , and creates . But Grants distribution is general play , was dismal . I’m not talking the fancy stuff . I’m talking tackle 3 ,on our own 20m . And from what I’ve seen if liddle , I notice , that in those situations , he will manipulate the markers , with fades of the body , deception with direction of pass etc. which allows the ball runner to get in behind the markers . Farah did this well, he just went superhero mode when we were in the red zone .And that’s where I think he learnt it.
Grant is a player you build the whole gameplan around . Liddle is better 9 for the system we play . If he stays healthy , I’m very confident you will see what I see .

Dismal? You’re joking right. Nothing about his game is dismal. Harry was masterful as keeping markers guessing too because he’s such a threat with the ball in his hand, and he proved that at the highest level of the game.

I like Liddle and think he’ll go well but yeesh the bias is astounding. Harry Grant was our best player every time he played really. Liddle will give our halves good service but based off brooks last season not sure if that’s good or not to be honest. Hopefully Jacob runs the ball a lot too, it’s essential with the new rules he needs to do the dirty work too

 

[JC99]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

I think the fact the club has persisted with him for so long speaks volumes. Could have easily just not renewed him and let him rot away but the club keeps investing time in him and he gets first crack at 9. Now it’s time for him to repay the faith.

Madge is definitely a fan of Liddle he’s mentioned in a few interviews he rates him.