Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[hammertime]

I'd say 2 of the remaining spots will now be filled up with the Train & Trial guys and then just leave enough space if a key signing comes up midseason.

 

[hodgo]

Widdop will be at the knights. Pearce the roosters.

 

[clontarfkid]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came over last year?"

He basically played here since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.


Widdop was outstanding and had a brilliant career in the NRL, I haven't once declared that he didn't. My point is recent form and peoples differing opinions on that.

Widdop flopped in a competition that many declare as average, yet Hastings excelled in it.

My point was, i don’t see how people would of still taken the older, injury prone player who looked average, but then not be interested in someone who's moved on to a lesser competition to rebuild his career, done exactly that and excelled from that point.

Im with you Pom.Many ppl on this forum are backward looking and make decisions dased on distant history ...eg his unsettled "character" from yrs ago at Manly etc(with mitigating circumstances) ......and are unable to digest subsequent events which clearly demonstrate Hastings has both behaved and matured and more importantly has absolutely killed it over there.
Add to that the fact that most who do well in ESL as playmakers generally succeed(and then some) here despite the differences in intensity of defence in NRL
Our current 6 and 7 BOTH are a little vulnerable to making a difference in 2021,and if given the oppportunity Hastings will have leapfrogged one (or probably both)of em to be permanent starter within a few rounds
Hastings is potentially a gamechanger for WTs.... hes is a lot more proven than most of our offseason 'troubled "recruits who havent proven anything on the field recently except "potential:..but still worth the gamble
Hastings is low risk high reward IMO

 

[sleeve]

Happy with all the club has done,and as usual optimistic.We have a many new players ,and it will take time to build combinations.At this stage we don't have certain players in key positions such as FB,lock,and 5/8. It will take time for the team to perform at it's best.Let's not be to critical in the earlier games.

 

[TigerWest]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came over last year?"

He basically played here since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.


Widdop was outstanding and had a brilliant career in the NRL, I haven't once declared that he didn't. My point is recent form and peoples differing opinions on that.

Widdop flopped in a competition that many declare as average, yet Hastings excelled in it.

My point was, i don’t see how people would of still taken the older, injury prone player who looked average, but then not be interested in someone who's moved on to a lesser competition to rebuild his career, done exactly that and excelled from that point.

Im with you Pom.Many ppl on this forum are backward looking and make decisions dased on distant history ...eg his unsettled "character" from yrs ago at Manly etc(with mitigating circumstances) ......and are unable to digest subsequent events which clearly demonstrate Hastings has both behaved and matured and more importantly has absolutely killed it over there.
Add to that the fact that most who do well in ESL as playmakers generally succeed(and then some) here despite the differences in intensity of defence in NRL
Our current 6 and 7 BOTH are a little vulnerable to making a difference in 2021,and if given the oppportunity Hastings will have leapfrogged one (or probably both)of em to be permanent starter within a few rounds
Hastings is potentially a gamechanger for WTs.... hes is a lot more proven than most of our offseason 'troubled "recruits who havent proven anything on the field recently except "potential:..but still worth the gamble
Hastings is low risk high reward IMO

Yes, I am amazed how some ppl here can not want better players than what we have?

 

[Speed2burn]

Hastings....lol.

Are we that deep into panic stations?

 

[Russell]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came over last year?"

He basically played here since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.


Widdop was outstanding and had a brilliant career in the NRL, I haven't once declared that he didn't. My point is recent form and peoples differing opinions on that.

Widdop flopped in a competition that many declare as average, yet Hastings excelled in it.

My point was, i don’t see how people would of still taken the older, injury prone player who looked average, but then not be interested in someone who's moved on to a lesser competition to rebuild his career, done exactly that and excelled from that point.

Im with you Pom.Many ppl on this forum are backward looking and make decisions dased on distant history ...eg his unsettled "character" from yrs ago at Manly etc(with mitigating circumstances) ......and are unable to digest subsequent events which clearly demonstrate Hastings has both behaved and matured and more importantly has absolutely killed it over there.
Add to that the fact that most who do well in ESL as playmakers generally succeed(and then some) here despite the differences in intensity of defence in NRL
Our current 6 and 7 BOTH are a little vulnerable to making a difference in 2021,and if given the oppportunity Hastings will have leapfrogged one (or probably both)of em to be permanent starter within a few rounds
Hastings is potentially a gamechanger for WTs.... hes is a lot more proven than most of our offseason 'troubled "recruits who havent proven anything on the field recently except "potential:..but still worth the gamble
Hastings is low risk high reward IMO

Yes, I am amazed how some ppl here can not want better players than what we have?

However imo Hastings isn't one of them. Think I am entitled to that opinion.

 

[851]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came over last year?"

He basically played here since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.


Widdop was outstanding and had a brilliant career in the NRL, I haven't once declared that he didn't. My point is recent form and peoples differing opinions on that.

Widdop flopped in a competition that many declare as average, yet Hastings excelled in it.

My point was, i don’t see how people would of still taken the older, injury prone player who looked average, but then not be interested in someone who's moved on to a lesser competition to rebuild his career, done exactly that and excelled from that point.

Im with you Pom.Many ppl on this forum are backward looking and make decisions dased on distant history ...eg his unsettled "character" from yrs ago at Manly etc(with mitigating circumstances) ......and are unable to digest subsequent events which clearly demonstrate Hastings has both behaved and matured and more importantly has absolutely killed it over there.
Add to that the fact that most who do well in ESL as playmakers generally succeed(and then some) here despite the differences in intensity of defence in NRL
Our current 6 and 7 BOTH are a little vulnerable to making a difference in 2021,and if given the oppportunity Hastings will have leapfrogged one (or probably both)of em to be permanent starter within a few rounds
Hastings is potentially a gamechanger for WTs.... hes is a lot more proven than most of our offseason 'troubled "recruits who havent proven anything on the field recently except "potential:..but still worth the gamble
Hastings is low risk high reward IMO

Yes, I am amazed how some ppl here can not want better players than what we have?

However imo Hastings isn't one of them. Think I am entitled to that opinion.

Whilst I am unsure on Hastings but can see the benefits, you are a staunch Liddle fan, and Hastings has shown as much or more than Liddle, so why is one a star and one a nuffie

 

[Tiger5150]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came **over** last year?"

He basically played **here** since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.

I thin Another Pom is actually a Pom, in England, so when he says "here", it means "there" (England)

 

[happy_tiger]

I think Hastings is a flog ...but it will be interesting to see how Hastings fares if he ever comes back

Some blokes come back more complete players ......but does he have the mentality and work ethic to step up in the NRL every week ...not so sure

 

[TigerWest]

I think Hastings is a flog ...but it will be interesting to see how Hastings fares if he ever comes back

Some blokes come back more complete players ......but does he have the mentality and work ethic to step up in the NRL every week ...not so sure

Who knows, but you basing your assertions on something that happened a couple of years ago, that we don't know the circumstances of, I think he worth a shot if he comes.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I think Hastings is a flog ...but it will be interesting to see how Hastings fares if he ever comes back

Some blokes come back more complete players ......but does he have the mentality and work ethic to step up in the NRL every week ...not so sure

Who knows, but you basing your assertions on something that happened a couple of years ago, that we don't know the circumstances of, I think he worth a shot if he comes.

Yeah when you consider all the hoo-ha also involved DCE on the other side of it, you have to ask yourself who actually was the real flog in that situation.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think Hastings is a flog ...but it will be interesting to see how Hastings fares if he ever comes back

Some blokes come back more complete players ......but does he have the mentality and work ethic to step up in the NRL every week ...not so sure

Who knows, but you basing your assertions on something that happened a couple of years ago, that we don't know the circumstances of, I think he worth a shot if he comes.

If it was a one off ...agree ..but it wasn't ...and if you are that stupid you screw with the teams marquee player and think you'll come out of it smelling like roses ...your too stupid for your own good ...and to be drinking the night before an NRL game as he was in Gladstone ....

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

My view on Hastings is that if it’s actually true & ZDC is that it’s clear Madge isn’t comfortable with our halfback stocks in Madden or Brooks.

The market is very very thin for halfbacks and unless you splurge, have a good forward pack, fullback and hooker then we will struggle to get one on the market so youngsters is our only hope next few seasons.

Hastings always had a heap of potential and carved up in juniors. ESL he has been very impressive. If our forwards could dominate then he actually could be a good pickup. I don’t see him working well with Brooks though. Maybe Brooks could be pushed.

 

[batboy]

I've been watching the ESL for the last 10 years and Jackson has been by far the the best Aussie and Kiwi import they've had over those years.

In my opinion the DCE issue was blown out of proportion across media and socials. Yes, he broke curfew and DCE took exception to it, however the media made a mountain out of a mole hill. Trent Barrett and Scott Penn fed into the blowback and only dropped him to keep DCE happy.

We've seen much worse behaviour in the NRL, a lot of players have been forgiven for bad behavior both on and off the field, and in some cases even criminal indiscretions.

If the Tigers are looking to sign Jackson, it's a great move. I'm all for it.

I saw him off the pitch in his time over there, Guys is still an A Grade Goose!!
Don't want him near the club...


That's disappointing to hear, but from what I heard on [Denan's pod](https://podbay.fm/p/bloke-in-a-bar/e/1611126507) he sounds like he's matured and owns his weaknesses.

Most young and rising footy players have stars in their eyes, they say the wrong thing and make mistakes which ultimately affect their brand.

But Jackson hasn't been in trouble with the law and only got called out for breaking curfew due to DCE, Trent and Scott overreacting.

A good half needs to show a strong level of confidence to verbally move the pack and back line around, which Jackson can do.

I'm crossing my fingers that Luke and Adam can do that this year.

If not, Jackson would be an excellent signing.

Na, Not at all - It's all a front...
If you followed him on Socials you'd swear he was the second coming of Christ.
It's all a front, Advertising himself as a "changed" person to get a gig back home.
It's commonly discussed amongst the fans over there....
He's just not like that, Never has been and never will be.

Some interactions I saw myself of him with "his" fans made me throw up in my mouth.
I've never met anyone that thinks he's a top bloke... From friends that played with him in junior levels to now - no one.

 

[happy_tiger]

My view on Hastings is that if it’s actually true & ZDC is that it’s clear Madge isn’t comfortable with our halfback stocks in Madden or Brooks.

The market is very very thin for halfbacks and unless you splurge, have a good forward pack, fullback and hooker then we will struggle to get one on the market so youngsters is our only hope next few seasons.

Hastings always had a heap of potential and carved up in juniors. ESL he has been very impressive. If our forwards could dominate then he actually could be a good pickup. I don’t see him working well with Brooks though. Maybe Brooks could be pushed.

Its the biggest question the club must have ..and it backs up what I've been saying if Brooks has a repeat of 2020 ..we are in huge doggie poo poo

 

[sleeve]

Iv'e said it before,Brooks had alternative,5/8s,9.no decent FB and a forward pack with little go forward .He did not have his best yearbut considering the team, there are very few halves would have performed better.I think he will have a great year.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Iv'e said it before,Brooks had alternative,5/8s,9.no decent FB and a forward pack with little go forward .He did not have his best yearbut considering the team, there are very few halves would have performed better.I think he will have a great year.

The only person to blame for Brooks performance in 2020 was himself.

 

[Goanna57]

Iv'e said it before,Brooks had alternative,5/8s,9.no decent FB and a forward pack with little go forward .He did not have his best yearbut considering the team, there are very few halves would have performed better.I think he will have a great year.

Daily M 2018 in a worst team went backwards last two seasons but not his fault it’s the team’s

 

[sleeve]

My view on Hastings is that if it’s actually true & ZDC is that it’s clear Madge isn’t comfortable with our halfback stocks in Madden or Brooks.

The market is very very thin for halfbacks and unless you splurge, have a good forward pack, fullback and hooker then we will struggle to get one on the market so youngsters is our only hope next few seasons.

Hastings always had a heap of potential and carved up in juniors. ESL he has been very impressive. If our forwards could dominate then he actually could be a good pickup. I don’t see him working well with Brooks though. Maybe Brooks could be pushed.

How is it very clear Madge isn't comfortable with Madden and Brooks?Or is it just your imagination.