Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@imback said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303102) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.

Of course we would have issues if every single one of those guys got injured. How pessimistic can you be?

Laurie can play in the halves btw


Sorry I don't see how that's being pessimistic? If anything it was the opposite I was saying we have some ok (not superstars but will do a job) back ups so no need to panic too much about the depth - was purely making a point that if we had that many injuries it would be an issue regardless of their experience...wasn't saying they are going to get injured.
 
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.

Ranting i will leave to you. We were let down badly at FB last year, with Mbye and others. We have backups for the other spine positions but not a capable FB. Sths have LM and a winger who is handy. Easts Teddy and Manu,Storm and penrith both have quality backups along with other sides. To my way of thinking a player that can play this position is needed as a backup, as the ones we used last year were poor. Simple as that!
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303104) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.


Just because you can list a list of names doesnt mean they are effective depth. In all teams but in particular us, the fullback and halves depth are linked. For example if a half goes down, it could drag a FB option out. Of the "depth" options listed for 5/8, only Brooks and Mbye have more than 1 game of NRL experience. FB options only Mbye has more than 1 game of experience.

In short if we have Roberts Davis or Talau anywhere near these positions, we are in SERIOUS trouble. I think we are pretty skinny at FB, but hopefully Mbye & Laurie stay healthy.


Im not disagreeing with you? Any team in the comp would struggle if their starting half and fullback went down and then their replacement half/fullback went down at the same time.

I can't think of any other team which have 3 experienced ready made halves/fullbacks just waiting in reserve grade?

I would love to have a line of experienced players but that is just not how a salary cap works
 
Mbye (playing for his career pretty much) is depth for Laurie and vice versa. If both go down AD reverts to fullback and will be solid as he was last year while Madden slots into the halves. Then if by some horrible twist of fate AD goes down Nofo goes to fullback while one of our many outside backs takes his wing. If a half goes down then the procession is Madden/Mbye then Laurie in the absolute worst case scenario. Thats the depth situation as i see it and honestly with Laurie with us now we're actually looking pretty alright.
 
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303121) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303104) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.


Just because you can list a list of names doesnt mean they are effective depth. In all teams but in particular us, the fullback and halves depth are linked. For example if a half goes down, it could drag a FB option out. Of the "depth" options listed for 5/8, only Brooks and Mbye have more than 1 game of NRL experience. FB options only Mbye has more than 1 game of experience.

In short if we have Roberts Davis or Talau anywhere near these positions, we are in SERIOUS trouble. I think we are pretty skinny at FB, but hopefully Mbye & Laurie stay healthy.


Im not disagreeing with you? Any team in the comp would struggle if their starting half and fullback went down and then their replacement half/fullback went down at the same time.

I can't think of any other team which have 3 experienced ready made halves/fullbacks just waiting in reserve grade?

I would love to have a line of experienced players but that is just not how a salary cap works

Yeah, most teams spine depth tends to be either young guys trying to get a spot or experienced guys at the end of their careers especially in the halves
 
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303120) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.

Ranting i will leave to you. We were let down badly at FB last year, with Mbye and others. We have backups for the other spine positions but not a capable FB. Sths have LM and a winger who is handy. Easts Teddy and Manu,Storm and penrith both have quality backups along with other sides. To my way of thinking a player that can play this position is needed as a backup, as the ones we used last year were poor. Simple as that!


I would honestly say Mybe playing well is at the same level (possibly better) than most of those (barring Manu and Penrith). In 2018 he played well at fullback, even in glimpses this year he looked great in attack. It was his catching that let him down.

Again my point being, he's not my first choice fullback but as a backup for injuries he's fine.
 
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303086) said:
TO strongee, re my original post,your reply which i could make no sense of and my request for clarification,and then more shorthand that only you can decipher has led to this rubbish.I enjoy your posts,but please be more specific so i know what your talking about.

Dude calm the hell down . If it’s a misunderstanding just say that . Don’t go off on a self righteous rant . It’s not like I attacked you .
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303083) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303071) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302982) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302976) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302923) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302919) said:
Another thing with simpkin is that he hasnt played footy in a long time...harry came off a year of CC

He's barely even played reserve grade. People want to throw him in early and will be disappointed and attack him when he's not an instant star. Gotta let him play against men in reserves for a few weeks at least before putting him in top grade there's no rush

People can't expect Harry Grant 2.0. Harry is just on another level, can't remember a rookie season that good for a long long time

Maybe not talent wise but I see a lot of the Tyson Gamble scenario in what people want to do with Simpkin.

Gamble was touted to be a real good prospect whilst playing in QLD, came to Tigers, played cc for a little while and then they shoved him into the NRL (not much of a team at the time) side to play Canberra in the Capital.

Our team was pathetic and was thrashed; Gamble had no experience of NRL and was crucified by all and sundry.

Never played NRL for us again, was let go - selected in the NRL again (for Donkeys I think) - injured before the game and still has not played another NRL game.

Keep pushing for Simpkin to play NRL too soon boys. Makes it all the easier for our No. 1 DH to permanently seal his spot.

Go get 'em Jake.

Yeah Gamble got a lot of unwarranted hate that night. Don't think it has to be a battle of Liddle vs Simpkin both can play a role in our team we just don't need to have mega expectations of a kid who's barely played reserves.

Got to disagree . His defence and lack of shoulder when tackling was exposed by of all people , 1 legged Kieren Foran . In fact that was the knock on him the whole time through the grades, his defence was benji Marshall level poor. Except benji could give you the points to make up for it.
Simpkin , has been the best 9 prospect to come through qld in a while . His name came up in passing convo , like 4 years ago. He has a barge arse , which means power and strength , plus acceleration . His game is predicated on power , and at 18 he was running over 30 year olds. The kid is special .
To me Tyson gamble , was a late first round early second round draft pick . His flaws , are so bad , you can’t take him higher in the draft , but if he could figure it out , he could be a handy role player.
Jake Simpkin , is a potential number 1 draft pick . He’s strong , has a decent passing game , and can find a line break, in a key position .

Gamble had his flaws, what I meant was people seemingly blamed him and him alone for our loss - despite getting absolutely spanked by Canberra that night as we always do.

I thought it was the dogs ? I remember being at that game with my son , who made me leave with 20 mins to go cause he was bored. Maybe you’re right and it was Canberra . It was at C town wasn’t it ?
Maybe I’m getting the games mixed up .
 
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303121) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303104) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.


Just because you can list a list of names doesnt mean they are effective depth. In all teams but in particular us, the fullback and halves depth are linked. For example if a half goes down, it could drag a FB option out. Of the "depth" options listed for 5/8, only Brooks and Mbye have more than 1 game of NRL experience. FB options only Mbye has more than 1 game of experience.

In short if we have Roberts Davis or Talau anywhere near these positions, we are in SERIOUS trouble. I think we are pretty skinny at FB, but hopefully Mbye & Laurie stay healthy.


Im not disagreeing with you? Any team in the comp would struggle if their starting half and fullback went down and then their replacement half/fullback went down at the same time.

I can't think of any other team which have 3 experienced ready made halves/fullbacks just waiting in reserve grade?

I would love to have a line of experienced players but that is just not how a salary cap works

Hi again Vinnie. These sides have them Storm , Paps and Hughs, Penrith Stains and Edwards. Easts Teddy and Manu. SOUTHS,LM and Johnston to name a few.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303099) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303093) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303083) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303071) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302982) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302976) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302923) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302919) said:
Another thing with simpkin is that he hasnt played footy in a long time...harry came off a year of CC

He's barely even played reserve grade. People want to throw him in early and will be disappointed and attack him when he's not an instant star. Gotta let him play against men in reserves for a few weeks at least before putting him in top grade there's no rush

People can't expect Harry Grant 2.0. Harry is just on another level, can't remember a rookie season that good for a long long time

Maybe not talent wise but I see a lot of the Tyson Gamble scenario in what people want to do with Simpkin.

Gamble was touted to be a real good prospect whilst playing in QLD, came to Tigers, played cc for a little while and then they shoved him into the NRL (not much of a team at the time) side to play Canberra in the Capital.

Our team was pathetic and was thrashed; Gamble had no experience of NRL and was crucified by all and sundry.

Never played NRL for us again, was let go - selected in the NRL again (for Donkeys I think) - injured before the game and still has not played another NRL game.

Keep pushing for Simpkin to play NRL too soon boys. Makes it all the easier for our No. 1 DH to permanently seal his spot.

Go get 'em Jake.

Yeah Gamble got a lot of unwarranted hate that night. Don't think it has to be a battle of Liddle vs Simpkin both can play a role in our team we just don't need to have mega expectations of a kid who's barely played reserves.

Got to disagree . His defence and lack of shoulder when tackling was exposed by of all people , 1 legged Kieren Foran . In fact that was the knock on him the whole time through the grades, his defence was benji Marshall level poor. Except benji could give you the points to make up for it.
Simpkin , has been the best 9 prospect to come through qld in a while . His name came up in passing convo , like 4 years ago. He has a barge arse , which means power and strength , plus acceleration . His game is predicated on power , and at 18 he was running over 30 year olds. The kid is special .
To me Tyson gamble , was a late first round early second round draft pick . His flaws , are so bad , you can’t take him higher in the draft , but if he could figure it out , he could be a handy role player.
Jake Simpkin , is a potential number 1 draft pick . He’s strong , has a decent passing game , and can find a line break, in a key position .

Gamble had his flaws, what I meant was people seemingly blamed him and him alone for our loss - despite getting absolutely spanked by Canberra that night as we always do.

And that was it - one go, never to be picked again. Even Lovett and Jennings had more than one go.


Well he played 2 games for the Broncos last year. If he is any good and it was our error, he will kick on somewhere else surely?

Yeah. I’m not death riding him. My point is he was going to develop late , if ever . That’s why I used the draft analogy . I think from memory , he had a good year in Q cup , and came at the recommendation of Benji ? But ended up coming with benji which pushed him down the pecking order .
If we had the systems we have in place now , I reckon we might have had a chance at developing him . The poor guy has gone from basket case to basket case , missing both teams development windows in the process .
I hope he finds a way into a serviceable NRL career so he can get his visa to ply his trade in super league. I mean if Jack little John can have a few years in first there , Tyson gamble can .
 
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302955) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302939) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302923) said:
People can’t expect Harry Grant 2.0. Harry is just on another level, can’t remember a rookie season that good for a long long time

I agree that people are unrealistic expecting Jake Simpkin to be Harry Grant Mark 2 in 2021.

I have never seen Simpkin play and so I don't know what to expect. But one thing we need to consider when comparing the two is that Harry was 22 when he debuted with us. Jake turned 19 last October.

Harry had three years more footy under his belt than Jake when he turned out for us and, Jake played virtually no footy last year.

I think we need to temper our expectations when it comes to Jake.

I think , a bench spot is as good as gold for him . It’s clear Mbye has 1 foot out the door , even though I know he won’t let us down . Outside of the change of coach and his positioning within the club, Mbye is what 26? He’s got a young family and he’s away from his extended family . I wouldn’t even be surprised if Covid has made him rethink his priorities , hence all the talk of heading back to south east Queensland .
Simpkin can develop slowly off the bench , for the next couple of years , share the duties with Liddle . Preserve his body in the process . If I was Simpkin’s manager , this is what I’d be advising him . Spend the next few years building a reputation, building muscle , working on the game , picking Robbie Farah s brain ,(who isn’t Cam but he’s the next best thing ), and then when my 21st birthday hit , I’d start to push into the representative/ elite space , via a starting job , hopefully here. By that time Liddle will be 27/28, so the succession plan should be pretty smooth .

I didn't realise Simpkin's manager was a selector!
 
@kevb said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303130) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302955) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302939) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302923) said:
People can’t expect Harry Grant 2.0. Harry is just on another level, can’t remember a rookie season that good for a long long time

I agree that people are unrealistic expecting Jake Simpkin to be Harry Grant Mark 2 in 2021.

I have never seen Simpkin play and so I don't know what to expect. But one thing we need to consider when comparing the two is that Harry was 22 when he debuted with us. Jake turned 19 last October.

Harry had three years more footy under his belt than Jake when he turned out for us and, Jake played virtually no footy last year.

I think we need to temper our expectations when it comes to Jake.

I think , a bench spot is as good as gold for him . It’s clear Mbye has 1 foot out the door , even though I know he won’t let us down . Outside of the change of coach and his positioning within the club, Mbye is what 26? He’s got a young family and he’s away from his extended family . I wouldn’t even be surprised if Covid has made him rethink his priorities , hence all the talk of heading back to south east Queensland .
Simpkin can develop slowly off the bench , for the next couple of years , share the duties with Liddle . Preserve his body in the process . If I was Simpkin’s manager , this is what I’d be advising him . Spend the next few years building a reputation, building muscle , working on the game , picking Robbie Farah s brain ,(who isn’t Cam but he’s the next best thing ), and then when my 21st birthday hit , I’d start to push into the representative/ elite space , via a starting job , hopefully here. By that time Liddle will be 27/28, so the succession plan should be pretty smooth .

I didn't realise Simpkin's manager was a selector!

I’m talking about the kid mate. I hate to break it to you , but the good ones have a development plan , they’ve developed outside of the club they play for , so should their desire to play for that club change , they are hitting the key points along that trajectory . This is developed usually by their manager , and the team that advise them .
 
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303128) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303121) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303104) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.


Just because you can list a list of names doesnt mean they are effective depth. In all teams but in particular us, the fullback and halves depth are linked. For example if a half goes down, it could drag a FB option out. Of the "depth" options listed for 5/8, only Brooks and Mbye have more than 1 game of NRL experience. FB options only Mbye has more than 1 game of experience.

In short if we have Roberts Davis or Talau anywhere near these positions, we are in SERIOUS trouble. I think we are pretty skinny at FB, but hopefully Mbye & Laurie stay healthy.


Im not disagreeing with you? Any team in the comp would struggle if their starting half and fullback went down and then their replacement half/fullback went down at the same time.

I can't think of any other team which have 3 experienced ready made halves/fullbacks just waiting in reserve grade?

I would love to have a line of experienced players but that is just not how a salary cap works

Hi again Vinnie. These sides have them Storm , Paps and Hughs, Penrith Stains and Edwards. Easts Teddy and Manu. SOUTHS,LM and Johnston to name a few.


Yeh but to put those players in they're having to replace their position with a rookie...So it's the same position as us, benefit of Mybe is we won't be taking him from a starting 13 spot.
 
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303121) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303104) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303096) said:
I am a massive Laurie fan.You have completely misread my post.I simply said we need a backup for Laurie,in case of injury,'READ MY POST CORRECTLY .I said i hope he kills it,and that if he gets moved to 5/8 etc or injured we have no backup.YOUR COMPREHENSION IS TERRIBLE.

With all due respect, please add spaces after your commas and full stops. I find a lot of your rant posts sometimes difficult to read because of this...might help with people's 'comprehension' issues.

Back on topic, why is Mybe not our backup? He would slot straight back to number 1 easily with injury.

Our depth is:
Halves: AD, Brooks, Madden, Mybe, Talau
Fullback: Laurie, Mybe, Roberts Davis

If we have that many injuries that all these players are unavailable - then were going to be in trouble regardless.


Just because you can list a list of names doesnt mean they are effective depth. In all teams but in particular us, the fullback and halves depth are linked. For example if a half goes down, it could drag a FB option out. Of the "depth" options listed for 5/8, only Brooks and Mbye have more than 1 game of NRL experience. FB options only Mbye has more than 1 game of experience.

In short if we have Roberts Davis or Talau anywhere near these positions, we are in SERIOUS trouble. I think we are pretty skinny at FB, but hopefully Mbye & Laurie stay healthy.


Im not disagreeing with you? Any team in the comp would struggle if their starting half and fullback went down and then their replacement half/fullback went down at the same time.

I can't think of any other team which have 3 experienced ready made halves/fullbacks just waiting in reserve grade?

I would love to have a line of experienced players but that is just not how a salary cap works

Completely agree. You can’t afford or expect to ahave three string options as experienced genuine first graders. These are the younger guys coming through with the potential.
 
No longer a rumour or suggestion on Roberts, though would like the additional speed that a committed Fitzgibbon looking on could provide if word of taking him on board are correct.

Needed something to brighten up the bleak rainy day here and maybe you guys will get a boost with my thoughts that the athleticism on display and a slimmer BJ in the background of this Tamworth camp shot will help get our WT into the eight this season.

![Screenshot_20210213-184706_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1613203058205-screenshot_20210213-184706_gallery-resized.jpg)
 
@leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303084) said:
There's a lot of opinions in this thread at the moment about Jake and Jock. From what I've seen I believe they're both going to be stars in the next couple of years.

We play the Chooks next week in a second tier trial.

Jake and Jock will hopefully play and answer all our questions.


I thought the chooks trial was for player with less than 12 NRL games - that was what was originally put up - may have changed. However there would still be some great talent on show from both teams.
 
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303144) said:
@leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303084) said:
There's a lot of opinions in this thread at the moment about Jake and Jock. From what I've seen I believe they're both going to be stars in the next couple of years.

We play the Chooks next week in a second tier trial.

Jake and Jock will hopefully play and answer all our questions.


I thought the chooks trial was for player with less than 12 NRL games - that was what was originally put up - may have changed. However there would still be some great talent on show from both teams.

Less than 12 games last season so players of any experience are eligible
 
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303131) said:
@kevb said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1303130) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302955) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302939) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1302923) said:
People can’t expect Harry Grant 2.0. Harry is just on another level, can’t remember a rookie season that good for a long long time

I agree that people are unrealistic expecting Jake Simpkin to be Harry Grant Mark 2 in 2021.

I have never seen Simpkin play and so I don't know what to expect. But one thing we need to consider when comparing the two is that Harry was 22 when he debuted with us. Jake turned 19 last October.

Harry had three years more footy under his belt than Jake when he turned out for us and, Jake played virtually no footy last year.

I think we need to temper our expectations when it comes to Jake.

I think , a bench spot is as good as gold for him . It’s clear Mbye has 1 foot out the door , even though I know he won’t let us down . Outside of the change of coach and his positioning within the club, Mbye is what 26? He’s got a young family and he’s away from his extended family . I wouldn’t even be surprised if Covid has made him rethink his priorities , hence all the talk of heading back to south east Queensland .
Simpkin can develop slowly off the bench , for the next couple of years , share the duties with Liddle . Preserve his body in the process . If I was Simpkin’s manager , this is what I’d be advising him . Spend the next few years building a reputation, building muscle , working on the game , picking Robbie Farah s brain ,(who isn’t Cam but he’s the next best thing ), and then when my 21st birthday hit , I’d start to push into the representative/ elite space , via a starting job , hopefully here. By that time Liddle will be 27/28, so the succession plan should be pretty smooth .

I didn't realise Simpkin's manager was a selector!

I’m talking about the kid mate. I hate to break it to you , but the good ones have a development plan , they’ve developed outside of the club they play for , so should their desire to play for that club change , they are hitting the key points along that trajectory . This is developed usually by their manager , and the team that advise them .

If you were a fish mate you would be on someones dinner plate.
 
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People can’t expect Harry Grant 2.0. Harry is just on another level, can’t remember a rookie season that good for a long long time

I agree that people are unrealistic expecting Jake Simpkin to be Harry Grant Mark 2 in 2021.

I have never seen Simpkin play and so I don't know what to expect. But one thing we need to consider when comparing the two is that Harry was 22 when he debuted with us. Jake turned 19 last October.

Harry had three years more footy under his belt than Jake when he turned out for us and, Jake played virtually no footy last year.

I think we need to temper our expectations when it comes to Jake.

I think , a bench spot is as good as gold for him . It’s clear Mbye has 1 foot out the door , even though I know he won’t let us down . Outside of the change of coach and his positioning within the club, Mbye is what 26? He’s got a young family and he’s away from his extended family . I wouldn’t even be surprised if Covid has made him rethink his priorities , hence all the talk of heading back to south east Queensland .
Simpkin can develop slowly off the bench , for the next couple of years , share the duties with Liddle . Preserve his body in the process . If I was Simpkin’s manager , this is what I’d be advising him . Spend the next few years building a reputation, building muscle , working on the game , picking Robbie Farah s brain ,(who isn’t Cam but he’s the next best thing ), and then when my 21st birthday hit , I’d start to push into the representative/ elite space , via a starting job , hopefully here. By that time Liddle will be 27/28, so the succession plan should be pretty smooth .

I didn't realise Simpkin's manager was a selector!

I’m talking about the kid mate. I hate to break it to you , but the good ones have a development plan , they’ve developed outside of the club they play for , so should their desire to play for that club change , they are hitting the key points along that trajectory . This is developed usually by their manager , and the team that advise them .

If you were a fish mate you would be on someones dinner plate.

What yours ? Lol many have tried and I’m still here, seems about as likely, ad you not being a pest. As in not very. Or are you saying I’m stupid ? Well that might be true , but that seems like the black hole calling the kettle black to me
 
Bellamy in talks with Sharks to be a coaching director from 2022 onwards.... hope we are having a chat to him too!
 
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