Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[hsvjones]

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

I think he may get that 14 spot next year. If the rumors are true about Hastings playing 13, when he needs a spell - Liddle could come on and play 9 with Simpkin moving into 13 for 20-30mins.

I can't see it happening. Simpkin managed 80 minutes against one of the best teams in he comp. He's an 80 minute player. Having Liddle there is a waste imo.

In Tigervinnie's defence, Simpkin would still be an 80 min player, just shifting to lock for 20 mins to give Hastings a spell.
Liddle has played some of his best football for us coming off the bench, especially exploiting tired markers and defence. I feel his best fit for us in future is as a super sub.

I think it comes down to if we can offload Mbye.. If he goes I can see us trying to keep Liddle but if not then I think he is gone. But the first Domino is for Simpkin to Re-sign long term as that's the key

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

I think he may get that 14 spot next year. If the rumors are true about Hastings playing 13, when he needs a spell - Liddle could come on and play 9 with Simpkin moving into 13 for 20-30mins.

I can't see it happening. Simpkin managed 80 minutes against one of the best teams in he comp. He's an 80 minute player. Having Liddle there is a waste imo.

Don't know why someone downvoted this it makes complete sense. If you've got an 80 minute hooker you can run a utility or extra forward on your bench. If Simpkin keeps playing well there just won't be room for Liddle

a lot of Liddle fanboys on here that backed him in hard all year... as others have said truth hurts

 

[crazycat]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.

YES, Penrith has shown us the way.
Be the Junior club in a Western Sydney heartland capturing the North West as Manly captured the North Coast.

So why on earth arn't we pushing into Camden, Narellan and South west Sydney where houses are everywhere? Instead we seem to want to settle into Balmain and Lidcombe and compete with Parra, Easts, Souths and the overcrowded Sydney heartlands.

 

[Tigerlily]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

With only a small number of spots in the top 30 for 2022 I’d be more inclined to let Liddle go and make Simpkin the priority.

Don’t forget Hastings can also cover the dummy half position as well as the halves.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

I think he may get that 14 spot next year. If the rumors are true about Hastings playing 13, when he needs a spell - Liddle could come on and play 9 with Simpkin moving into 13 for 20-30mins.

I can't see it happening. Simpkin managed 80 minutes against one of the best teams in he comp. He's an 80 minute player. Having Liddle there is a waste imo.

In Tigervinnie's defence, Simpkin would still be an 80 min player, just shifting to lock for 20 mins to give Hastings a spell.
Liddle has played some of his best football for us coming off the bench, especially exploiting tired markers and defence. I feel his best fit for us in future is as a super sub.

next year if Hastings is 13 then I dont think you can carry a Liddle type hooker is Simpkin plays 80 mins.
I'm not a huge Liddle fan but he does deserve a starting spot at say dogs or gold coast and not a sub or Canterbury Cup player for us

 

[crazycat]

Something kind of funny. I remember the doomers in the off season complaining how the Bulldogs were way ahead of us, and asking why we can't sign quality players like them.

Now after 6 rounds, let's look at their signings.
- Nick Cotric - On huge coin and they don't even know where to play him. Looks out of place at the Dogs. Not going badly, but for the coin he's on you'd be hoping for elite level performances.
- Kyle Flanagan - It's as if they ordered Luke Brooks off Wish.
- Corey Allan - Same as Cotric, they thought they got a rep level fullback, but they actually got a slightly above average player on big coin. Imagine Tommy Talau on three times the salary...that's about where he's at.
- Jack Hetherington - megadud. Can't even keep himself on the park due to being an idiot.
- Corey Waddell - reserve grade level player.

Totally agreed but I think our mindset is wrong too. We need to think past just 'hiring the players'
Lets look at our signings:
Dianne Laurie, glad to have the name back at our club for the right reasons. Doing well, but were not winning games. (worth offloading Momo for? probably not).
James Roberts, big name on big coin and would have been dropped in another team.
James Tamou, big name signing and at the moment doing above average.
Joe O, doing better then expected. But were still not winning games.

Overall I think the attitude is wrong. We need to be thinking how do we develop players and get the most out of their skill level. No problem signing the James Tamou to provide leadership and steady the pack, heck we needed this and maybe Russell Packer may have done better if he played with James.

I like though how our recruitment is looking at player histories and putting players together. I never knew Nofo played with the Jet and seeing them come together is a good tactic(that hasn't payed off yet). I can see us doing well out of bringing more people from Brisbane and people who have played together. Us being a Samoan hub is a good idea as well. I also like how were trying to steady the spine. 1 settled, 6 settled, 7 should be settled but that is up to Brooks. Only changes has been Hooker and I can't blame Madge on that.

My two big ideas are:
Forward load contracts, do what Manly did in 2006 and let 1 year take a hit so that we can get the people we want the next year.
Be a PNG hub. There is serious potential there but we have to get our player attitude and culture right.

 

[Geo]

The Clubs depth char for the hooking position is 2 specialist hookers and a utility who can cover hooker currently that is Simpkin Liddell and Mhye ...

If Liddle was let go they would be looking for another specialist hooker to fill that spot as only allocating 1 specialist leaves you short.. would much rather keep Liddle than hunt for another specialist of lesser quality

 

[Guest]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

 

[JC99]

The Clubs depth char for the hooking position is 2 specialist hookers and a utility who can cover hooker currently that is Simpkin Liddell and Mhye ...

If Liddle was let go they would be looking for another specialist hooker to fill that spot as only allocating 1 specialist leaves you short.. would much rather keep Liddle than hunt for another specialist of lesser quality

Definitely would be better to keep him but would he want to stay if he's not starting or even getting first grade time? Other clubs will come sniffing I'm sure.

 

[rihannafan1]

Something kind of funny. I remember the doomers in the off season complaining how the Bulldogs were way ahead of us, and asking why we can't sign quality players like them.

Now after 6 rounds, let's look at their signings.
- Nick Cotric - On huge coin and they don't even know where to play him. Looks out of place at the Dogs. Not going badly, but for the coin he's on you'd be hoping for elite level performances.
- Kyle Flanagan - It's as if they ordered Luke Brooks off Wish.
- Corey Allan - Same as Cotric, they thought they got a rep level fullback, but they actually got a slightly above average player on big coin. Imagine Tommy Talau on three times the salary...that's about where he's at.
- Jack Hetherington - megadud. Can't even keep himself on the park due to being an idiot.
- Corey Waddell - reserve grade level player.

Totally agreed but I think our mindset is wrong too. We need to think past just 'hiring the players'
Lets look at our signings:
Dianne Laurie, glad to have the name back at our club for the right reasons. Doing well, but were not winning games. (worth offloading Momo for? probably not).
James Roberts, big name on big coin and would have been dropped in another team.
James Tamou, big name signing and at the moment doing above average.
Joe O, doing better then expected. But were still not winning games.

Overall I think the attitude is wrong. We need to be thinking how do we develop players and get the most out of their skill level. No problem signing the James Tamou to provide leadership and steady the pack, heck we needed this and maybe Russell Packer may have done better if he played with James.

I like though how our recruitment is looking at player histories and putting players together. I never knew Nofo played with the Jet and seeing them come together is a good tactic(that hasn't payed off yet). I can see us doing well out of bringing more people from Brisbane and people who have played together. Us being a Samoan hub is a good idea as well. I also like how were trying to steady the spine. 1 settled, 6 settled, 7 should be settled but that is up to Brooks. Only changes has been Hooker and I can't blame Madge on that.

My two big ideas are:
Forward load contracts, do what Manly did in 2006 and let 1 year take a hit so that we can get the people we want the next year.
Be a PNG hub. There is serious potential there but we have to get our player attitude and culture right.

James Roberts is on small coin, approx. 150k. He's played better than his contract. We're not getting enough out of Packer and Mbye, their contracts are killing us and you'd expect excellence nearly every week from Noffa on 500k, which he hasn't delivered yet.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

 

[facepalmer]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.

YES, Penrith has shown us the way.
Be the Junior club in a Western Sydney heartland capturing the North West as Manly captured the North Coast.

So why on earth arn't we pushing into Camden, Narellan and South west Sydney where houses are everywhere? Instead we seem to want to settle into Balmain and Lidcombe and compete with Parra, Easts, Souths and the overcrowded Sydney heartlands.

Corporate dollars.

 

[facepalmer]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

He has proven that for a 19 year old debutant he's a more than competent NRL level hooker. This means his development is very impressive and has him on track for being at minimum a very high quality NRL level hooker when he reaches his prime, and with some luck and hard work, rep level honours are not out of the question.

 

[the_third]

Something kind of funny. I remember the doomers in the off season complaining how the Bulldogs were way ahead of us, and asking why we can't sign quality players like them.

Now after 6 rounds, let's look at their signings.
- Nick Cotric - On huge coin and they don't even know where to play him. Looks out of place at the Dogs. Not going badly, but for the coin he's on you'd be hoping for elite level performances.
- Kyle Flanagan - It's as if they ordered Luke Brooks off Wish.
- Corey Allan - Same as Cotric, they thought they got a rep level fullback, but they actually got a slightly above average player on big coin. Imagine Tommy Talau on three times the salary...that's about where he's at.
- Jack Hetherington - megadud. Can't even keep himself on the park due to being an idiot.
- Corey Waddell - reserve grade level player.

Totally agreed but I think our mindset is wrong too. We need to think past just 'hiring the players'
Lets look at our signings:
Dianne Laurie, glad to have the name back at our club for the right reasons. Doing well, but were not winning games. (worth offloading Momo for? probably not).
James Roberts, big name on big coin and would have been dropped in another team.
James Tamou, big name signing and at the moment doing above average.
Joe O, doing better then expected. But were still not winning games.

Overall I think the attitude is wrong. We need to be thinking how do we develop players and get the most out of their skill level. No problem signing the James Tamou to provide leadership and steady the pack, heck we needed this and maybe Russell Packer may have done better if he played with James.

I like though how our recruitment is looking at player histories and putting players together. I never knew Nofo played with the Jet and seeing them come together is a good tactic(that hasn't payed off yet). I can see us doing well out of bringing more people from Brisbane and people who have played together. Us being a Samoan hub is a good idea as well. I also like how were trying to steady the spine. 1 settled, 6 settled, 7 should be settled but that is up to Brooks. Only changes has been Hooker and I can't blame Madge on that.

My two big ideas are:
Forward load contracts, do what Manly did in 2006 and let 1 year take a hit so that we can get the people we want the next year.
Be a PNG hub. There is serious potential there but we have to get our player attitude and culture right.

we have done pretty well in recruiting juniors already - ie their development is happening just not in 1st grade, except Stefano, he's in 1st grade.

look at the fledge and SG ball teams, they have some serious talent. Reggies also have some that are very close.

big rebuilds don't happen overnight

 

[JD Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

see dogs are looking at talmalolo contracted to cowboys until 2027 1 million a year.
Wish we could have a crack at him

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

 

[JD Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Like I feel with Brooks, Liddle has been through a lot, and it would be good to see him succeed at the WT. But maybe it doesn't happen.

I think you're right, but hopefully we can move MBye on. If Hastings fills the role of third playmaker next year, and if we can let MBye go, then we could either carry a second hooker on the bench or have four forwards.

I'm not confident we can move* MBye on, but we did with Reynolds when I thought we had no chance.

 

[Geo]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it