Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Snake]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him


You’re so transparent. Just like Noffa last year, you want Liddle gone at all costs.

you are so transparent too with your opinions just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean they are wrong mate.
Good luck to you you want to keep Liddle, gold star for you


Cos you base your opinions on zero logic. You had your mind made up Simpkin would be lost to the Roosters because his girlfriend is on some reality show that has connections to Nick Politis.

who are you to say zero logic ??? you are so rude champ honestly.
I did think that Roosters may have a crack at Simpkin yes so what is that a crime.
you are a Liddle fanboy stick with that

Really? I actually prefer Simpkin over Liddle going forward. So much for that.

There’s nothing wrong with thinking he might go to the Roosters, as long as there is a speck of logic. Thinking he’ll go there cos the Roosters think he can play is one thing. Thinking he’d go there cos of his gf being on a tv show is illogical and makes you sound like a crazy casual fb supporter.

And a squad goes beyond the starting 17. Another hooker is needed. But when that is mentioned to you, you turn into Liddle’s manager, presuming you know what’s good for him.

So you think Liddle should stay behind Simpkin ? the guy is a solid 9 just that Simpkin is better, Liddle deserves to be a starting 9 at another club and earn good coin. I don't think we should stand in his way if dogs or another side offers him some good coin and a starting 9. For depth if he stays great don't think he will
if I was his manager I would shop him to other clubs for sure given his injuries
Fair call on the gf stuff that was a bit of a long bow to draw I agree there


If he doesn’t want to stay and fight for a starting spot, that’s his prerogative, but the club isn’t doing it’s job if they aren’t offering him a contract for 2022.

we can offer but don't think we can compete with Dogs


Barrett wants him?

Heard last year they were keen on Liddle via sponsors that I know, I do think they are waiting for Brandon Smith to decide what he is doing, he will end up staying at storm so think they will renew focus as Liddle for the 9

If Brandon Smith ever signed with the Dogs then our recruiters need to be sacked. The dogs are bog average club, full of in-house fighting and a no more desirable club than us. If they can attract players then we need people who can convince these type players to sign with us.

I do not see Brandon Smith as a 9 ..lock is his spot for mine.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him


You’re so transparent. Just like Noffa last year, you want Liddle gone at all costs.

you are so transparent too with your opinions just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean they are wrong mate.
Good luck to you you want to keep Liddle, gold star for you


Cos you base your opinions on zero logic. You had your mind made up Simpkin would be lost to the Roosters because his girlfriend is on some reality show that has connections to Nick Politis.

who are you to say zero logic ??? you are so rude champ honestly.
I did think that Roosters may have a crack at Simpkin yes so what is that a crime.
you are a Liddle fanboy stick with that

Really? I actually prefer Simpkin over Liddle going forward. So much for that.

There’s nothing wrong with thinking he might go to the Roosters, as long as there is a speck of logic. Thinking he’ll go there cos the Roosters think he can play is one thing. Thinking he’d go there cos of his gf being on a tv show is illogical and makes you sound like a crazy casual fb supporter.

And a squad goes beyond the starting 17. Another hooker is needed. But when that is mentioned to you, you turn into Liddle’s manager, presuming you know what’s good for him.

So you think Liddle should stay behind Simpkin ? the guy is a solid 9 just that Simpkin is better, Liddle deserves to be a starting 9 at another club and earn good coin. I don't think we should stand in his way if dogs or another side offers him some good coin and a starting 9. For depth if he stays great don't think he will
if I was his manager I would shop him to other clubs for sure given his injuries
Fair call on the gf stuff that was a bit of a long bow to draw I agree there


If he doesn’t want to stay and fight for a starting spot, that’s his prerogative, but the club isn’t doing it’s job if they aren’t offering him a contract for 2022.

we can offer but don't think we can compete with Dogs


Barrett wants him?

Heard last year they were keen on Liddle via sponsors that I know, I do think they are waiting for Brandon Smith to decide what he is doing, he will end up staying at storm so think they will renew focus as Liddle for the 9

If Brandon Smith ever signed with the Dogs then our recruiters need to be sacked. The dogs are bog average club, full of in-house fighting and a no more desirable club than us. If they can attract players then we need people who can convince these type players to sign with us.

Brandon Smith would be great if he was going to play running second row type role. Now that would be a Signing you let go Luddke and use Packer and Liddle money for Brandon Smith. You then have your cover for Simpkin if injury strikes he becomes the "specialist nine" as cover

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

 

[jadtiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him


You’re so transparent. Just like Noffa last year, you want Liddle gone at all costs.

you are so transparent too with your opinions just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean they are wrong mate.
Good luck to you you want to keep Liddle, gold star for you


Cos you base your opinions on zero logic. You had your mind made up Simpkin would be lost to the Roosters because his girlfriend is on some reality show that has connections to Nick Politis.

who are you to say zero logic ??? you are so rude champ honestly.
I did think that Roosters may have a crack at Simpkin yes so what is that a crime.
you are a Liddle fanboy stick with that

Really? I actually prefer Simpkin over Liddle going forward. So much for that.

There’s nothing wrong with thinking he might go to the Roosters, as long as there is a speck of logic. Thinking he’ll go there cos the Roosters think he can play is one thing. Thinking he’d go there cos of his gf being on a tv show is illogical and makes you sound like a crazy casual fb supporter.

And a squad goes beyond the starting 17. Another hooker is needed. But when that is mentioned to you, you turn into Liddle’s manager, presuming you know what’s good for him.

So you think Liddle should stay behind Simpkin ? the guy is a solid 9 just that Simpkin is better, Liddle deserves to be a starting 9 at another club and earn good coin. I don't think we should stand in his way if dogs or another side offers him some good coin and a starting 9. For depth if he stays great don't think he will
if I was his manager I would shop him to other clubs for sure given his injuries
Fair call on the gf stuff that was a bit of a long bow to draw I agree there


If he doesn’t want to stay and fight for a starting spot, that’s his prerogative, but the club isn’t doing it’s job if they aren’t offering him a contract for 2022.

we can offer but don't think we can compete with Dogs


Barrett wants him?

Heard last year they were keen on Liddle via sponsors that I know, I do think they are waiting for Brandon Smith to decide what he is doing, he will end up staying at storm so think they will renew focus as Liddle for the 9

If Brandon Smith ever signed with the Dogs then our recruiters need to be sacked. The dogs are bog average club, full of in-house fighting and a no more desirable club than us. If they can attract players then we need people who can convince these type players to sign with us.

I disagree because if our recruitment team put a value of "x" on a player and the dogs put "x + 300k" which could quite possibly be the case how can you blame our recruitment team for not trying to match it? That is how you destroy your salary cap and have a poor team on the paddock

 

[tiger_scott]

If Brandon Smith ever signed with the Dogs then our recruiters need to be sacked. The dogs are bog average club, full of in-house fighting and a no more desirable club than us. If they can attract players then we need people who can convince these type players to sign with us.

The dogs have nice facilities; we are just getting our act in order now via the COE. Plus they have "everyone's mate" as coach: Barrett. I imagine some players are choosing the nice guy over the tough task master, as both sides are offering a similar chance to play finals currently (sad, but true).

Plus if the Cheese truly wants to be a 9, he is a walk up start at the dogs. Here he would be fighting two young blokes for the spot. If you're leaving Melbourne it's either for a truck load of cash or the locked in hooker spot. You're not going to leave there to play lock elsewhere, unless you get marquee money.

 

[hobbo1]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

 

[JC99]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

 

[Tigers_Tale]

Well there are only two players above Brooks in try assists, I would say he is doing reasonably good.

 

[hobbo1]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

 

[SeanT]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

Im holding the entire organisation to account.

Define playing well? Adequate maybe. But his kicking game is non existant because Douhie has taken over due to Brooks poor execution.

We need a halfback. He simply does not cut it and hasnt for years.

 

[DJG]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

Im holding the entire organisation to account.

Define playing well? Adequate maybe. But his kicking game is non existant because Douhie has taken over due to Brooks poor execution.

We need a halfback. He simply does not cut it and hasnt for years.

Brooks will prove you wrong this weekend...

Watch him provide 2 more Try assists and bring back his running game again.

Personally I think its going to be the trial all over again.. Brooks kick to Roberts.. BOOM!

 

[JC99]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

Im holding the entire organisation to account.

Define playing well? Adequate maybe. But his kicking game is non existant because Douhie has taken over due to Brooks poor execution.

We need a halfback. He simply does not cut it and hasnt for years.

Brooks will prove you wrong this weekend...

Watch him provide 2 more Try assists and bring back his running game again.

Personally I think its going to be the trial all over again.. Brooks kick to Roberts.. BOOM!

Try assists isnt the big thing he should be aiming for. He's meant to lead a team around more than anything and we still look unorganised and he doesn't build pressure with his kicking

 

[851]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

 

[JC99]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

He moves like a young Benji... real talent. Cleary really helps him by digging really deep into the line before passing too.

 

[hobbo1]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Run Luke run ?‍♂️....
I actually believe the pamfers are boring to watch imo
Yeah they might be killing it at the moment but it’s all due to there speed of play ( except when Eisenhuth comes on )
They are more than beatable .

 

[Bones]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

He is 7 runs away from the most runs by a halfback in the comp and has more than most 5/8’s too. And I can think of 2 try assists from short kicks just against the cowboys plus the one for Doueihi against the knights.

 

[Geo]

lol all we heard last year was Brooks is crap only has 4 TRY assists or something..this year they are not important..isn't a big thing..OK BYE..

 

[Bones]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

I know Brooks deserves some criticism but I feel like people don’t give credit where it’s due.

He is playing well at the moment, not perfect but certainly better than last year and considering we have a spine that is basically all new it’s going to take time for all of them to gel.

 

[hobbo1]

lol all we heard last year was Brooks is crap only has 4 TRY assists or something..this year they are not important..isn't a big thing..OK BYE..

😂
Was that your best version of a hit ‘n run 😂

 

[hobbo1]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

I know Brooks deserves some criticism but I feel like people don’t give credit where it’s due.

He is playing well at the moment, not perfect but certainly better than last year and considering we have a spine that is basically all new it’s going to take time for all of them to gel.

Brooks is going ok at the moment but stats don’t mean much without context

I would’ve moved him to 9 years ago