Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[mike]

Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

Agree, but Reynolds has gone to the Bronc’s for less money than the Sharks offered.
He did mention that the Bronc’s sent a senior delegation down and the Sharks an assistant?
We may have learnt from that, as we did send our most senior delegation up to supposedly talk to a couple of players?

Just on that delegation travelling together, in most companies this is banned, because if anything was to happen, then company management/direction is in disarray?

The Board is the Company not its employees. Employees travel together all the time. The whole team travels together along with the coaching staff as do other teams and management. They are not the Royal Family.

 

[Demps]

Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

Agree, but Reynolds has gone to the Bronc’s for less money than the Sharks offered.
He did mention that the Bronc’s sent a senior delegation down and the Sharks an assistant?
We may have learnt from that, as we did send our most senior delegation up to supposedly talk to a couple of players?

Just on that delegation travelling together, in most companies this is banned, because if anything was to happen, then company management/direction is in disarray?

NRL are supplying Reynolds with a new furnished home and covering the move.

Guarantee he's not uplifting his young family and moving them to a new state without getting looked after.

NRL need broncos to succeed.
Not the first time stuff like this has happened.

 

[Rugba]

Our 3 highest paid players are Moses Mbye, Rus Packer and BJ Leilua plus we have 700k unspent.

Mbye - 800k
Pakcer - 750k
Bj - 600k
Unspent - 700k

2.85m delivering about 300k worth

We Re effectively playing $2.5m under the cap.

Imagine if you could swap that 2.5m top end money for any other 3 players on the comp. We would be top 8 and prob top 4.

It isnt the coaching, it isnt the effort its purley too level talent.

Not 1 player from our club will be in an origin discussion - we are the only club that can say that .

Bj on more than brooks ?

Madge spend on a half back

 

[Vince Farrar]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Just my opinion but I wouldn’t have Flanagan anywhere near our club. Morris seams a nice bloke but still relatively unproven.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

So are we seriously going to let the broncos have a free run at Hynes? I know it probably depends on us taking some of their players but we would be silly to not have a go for him as well

I hope we are talking to him

I doubt it. We’re not that bright

We have one of the best (if not the best) recruitment blokes in the game, I think we are that bright, if it’s who they want?

Might have been the best at the Roosters running around with brown paper bags in his hands, not so flash with us unfortunately.

His signings here have been quality but mainly with younger players. I can't really fault many of his signings.

Yes picking up some of the young talent has been good, but apart from Laurie they are still all unproven - they may work out, they may not. Unfortunately history is against us on that one.

Laurie is a great signing currently wasted in our insipid team. Was Hartigan responsible for signing BJ, Tamou and Roberts?

I think that can be easily proven that we had more success with 'unproven' than 'experienced' players!

 

[cktiger]

Our 3 highest paid players are Moses Mbye, Rus Packer and BJ Leilua plus we have 700k unspent.

Mbye - 800k
Pakcer - 750k
Bj - 600k
Unspent - 700k

2.85m delivering about 300k worth

We Re effectively playing $2.5m under the cap.

Imagine if you could swap that 2.5m top end money for any other 3 players on the comp. We would be top 8 and prob top 4.

It isnt the coaching, it isnt the effort its purley too level talent.

Not 1 player from our club will be in an origin discussion - we are the only club that can say that .

Bj on more than brooks ?

Madge spend on a half back

He must have forgotten Brooks- he is our highest paid player on 900k per season.
Get rid of him and the other 3 and we’re laughing.
PS You can throw in Nofo and Talau as well.

 

[TigerWest]

Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

Agree, but Reynolds has gone to the Bronc’s for less money than the Sharks offered.
He did mention that the Bronc’s sent a senior delegation down and the Sharks an assistant?
We may have learnt from that, as we did send our most senior delegation up to supposedly talk to a couple of players?

Just on that delegation travelling together, in most companies this is banned, because if anything was to happen, then company management/direction is in disarray?

The Board is the Company not its employees. Employees travel together all the time. The whole team travels together along with the coaching staff as do other teams and management. They are not the Royal Family.

My company didn’t allow it.

 

[tonza]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

 

[mike]

Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

Agree, but Reynolds has gone to the Bronc’s for less money than the Sharks offered.
He did mention that the Bronc’s sent a senior delegation down and the Sharks an assistant?
We may have learnt from that, as we did send our most senior delegation up to supposedly talk to a couple of players?

Just on that delegation travelling together, in most companies this is banned, because if anything was to happen, then company management/direction is in disarray?

The Board is the Company not its employees. Employees travel together all the time. The whole team travels together along with the coaching staff as do other teams and management. They are not the Royal Family.

My company didn’t allow it.

That would be very rare I would think.

 

[avocadoontoast]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

Agree, but Reynolds has gone to the Bronc’s for less money than the Sharks offered.
He did mention that the Bronc’s sent a senior delegation down and the Sharks an assistant?
We may have learnt from that, as we did send our most senior delegation up to supposedly talk to a couple of players?

Just on that delegation travelling together, in most companies this is banned, because if anything was to happen, then company management/direction is in disarray?

He might of gone for less contracted money but endorsements will well and truly compensate for it as would the house he is given.

 

[TigerWest]

Reality is there isn’t 2-3 marquee style players on the market.

There are some good players, some rising talent and fringe players up for grabs.

Issue is in a competitive market where a few clubs have cash we either have to take huge risks or we go the slow burn - pay huge overs or buy for price, invest in yet to be known players and grab out of sorts players to hopefully build a competitive squad which may take another 2-3yrs to see the benefits of.

We suck and not alot of current 1st graders would jump from the storm etc to come here unless they got well compensated & even then most pick winning over the cash anyway.

Agree, but Reynolds has gone to the Bronc’s for less money than the Sharks offered.
He did mention that the Bronc’s sent a senior delegation down and the Sharks an assistant?
We may have learnt from that, as we did send our most senior delegation up to supposedly talk to a couple of players?

Just on that delegation travelling together, in most companies this is banned, because if anything was to happen, then company management/direction is in disarray?

The Board is the Company not its employees. Employees travel together all the time. The whole team travels together along with the coaching staff as do other teams and management. They are not the Royal Family.

My company didn’t allow it.

That would be very rare I would think.

That’s very senior management, I wasn’t one?

I was under the impression it was pretty standard at the time?

 

[cochise]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

 

[BalmainJnr]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I fear that there is maybe three active coaches who I believe would have a chance of turning us around.

 

[cochise]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I fear that there is maybe three active coaches who I believe would have a chance of turning us around.

And they won't come to us, that is the only reason I wouldn't sack Madge

 

[avocadoontoast]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I agree with that to an extent, but we went for experience this time and it’s unfortunately bombed pretty badly. I just want someone who knows how to coach.

 

[cochise]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I agree with that to an extent, but we went for experience this time and it’s unfortunately bombed pretty badly. I just want someone who knows how to coach.

Knowing how to coach is not enough at this club, its why there has only been one guy who could succeed here.

 

[avocadoontoast]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I agree with that to an extent, but we went for experience this time and it’s unfortunately bombed pretty badly. I just want someone who knows how to coach.

Knowing how to coach is not enough at this club, its why there has only been one guy who could succeed here.

He’d obviously never come back here but I miss Sheens coaching style. Always good to watch.

 

[cochise]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I agree with that to an extent, but we went for experience this time and it’s unfortunately bombed pretty badly. I just want someone who knows how to coach.

Knowing how to coach is not enough at this club, its why there has only been one guy who could succeed here.

He’d obviously never come back here but I miss Sheens coaching style. Always good to watch.

He isn't the answer now anyway, but we need someone that can bend the club to his will in the way he did. How don't see how a rookie does that.

 

[JC99]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

I don't want a rookie, this is the hardest job in the NRL

I agree with that to an extent, but we went for experience this time and it’s unfortunately bombed pretty badly. I just want someone who knows how to coach.

Knowing how to coach is not enough at this club, its why there has only been one guy who could succeed here.

This is more than just coaching tactics it's someone who can fix a decade of inconsistency