Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373527) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373522) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373467) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373428) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373408) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373400) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373397) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373381) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373364) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373357) said:
If we do end up letting Brooks go to the Raiders i hope we are balls deep in on Hynes say 1 or 6 the rest depends on you. He gets the 1 Laurie goes to 6 but personally for me i would leave Laurie at 1 and use Hynes at 6 Hastings 7 Doueihi can stay at 3 Bj can head back to Oporto.

Those three players are slow. Where is the spark to come from?

Mate Hynes is not slow. Watch Melbourne's game last week. The amount of times he beats blokes to go through the line is unbelievable. His top end over say 70m might not be top end but he has great acceleration

He's no speedster. You want us to have the slowest halves combination in the NRL?

Another one of those players that are fast enough and good enough for Melbourne but not good enough by a long chalk to play for the incredibly successful Tigers.

All well and good if you have Papenhuyzen, JAC and Hughes in your backline. We don't do speed at WTs except for Brooks and Laurie.

Addo carr did nothing last week
Papenhuyzen and Hughes didn't even play

And Hynes still killed it
He is currently a significant upgrade on many of our players and including Brooks IMO
Brooks could become the next Ben Hunt to accommodate him
And why not
Brooks can tackle, he can pass and he can run from Dummy half
Will Hynes still be this good or better in the coming weeks months and years
That is the ?
![Screenshot_20210526-192754_Samsung Internet.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1622021469114-screenshot_20210526-192754_samsung-internet.jpg)

I should add that I don't think Liddle will be here next year
Unless he is cheap
But he will be chasing the $
Some how I don't think we will give him what he wants
But other clubs will
Just a hunch


Which of those stats is supposed to impress? Run metres? He is fullback in the winning team, that is not such a surprising stat.

Considering he picked up 138 points in his SC score which is 32 points more then his closest team mate Brandon Smith is is impressive enough

This guy is **standing up in a team missing two of its main stars**
Isn't that good enough for our team
Who in our team can stand up and perform like that

This guy "stood up" in a team missing two of its main stars?.

He "stood up" in a team containing Justin Olam, JAC, Jahrome Hughes, Jesse Bromwich, Brandon Smith, Christian Welch, Felise Kaufusi, Dale Finucane.

He "stood up" in a team that had Nelson Asofa Solomona....*on the bench.*

EVERYONE in our team would kill to "stand up" in a team like that.

I think that’s the point that’s missed quite a bit. Our roster is so far off the top teams. We get down when we get beat by the lesser teams but looking at our players, we’re probably just playing to the ability of the group. We’ve got a few players who go quite well, some who go okay sometimes whereas the good teams have full squads of seasoned, consistent professionals. A player like Nicho Hines walks into that environment and it’s no surprise he plays well. Would he here? Not sure.
 
Nicho Hynes would most probably be a great addition to our roster but then there's "the Blair factor" to be considered when signing Storm players. Maybe not so good out of the Storm system, as we found with Mr Blair a few years back when some media hacks even had us premiership favourites on the back of signing him.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373525) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373522) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373467) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373428) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373408) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373400) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373397) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373381) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373364) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373357) said:
If we do end up letting Brooks go to the Raiders i hope we are balls deep in on Hynes say 1 or 6 the rest depends on you. He gets the 1 Laurie goes to 6 but personally for me i would leave Laurie at 1 and use Hynes at 6 Hastings 7 Doueihi can stay at 3 Bj can head back to Oporto.

Those three players are slow. Where is the spark to come from?

Mate Hynes is not slow. Watch Melbourne's game last week. The amount of times he beats blokes to go through the line is unbelievable. His top end over say 70m might not be top end but he has great acceleration

He's no speedster. You want us to have the slowest halves combination in the NRL?

Another one of those players that are fast enough and good enough for Melbourne but not good enough by a long chalk to play for the incredibly successful Tigers.

All well and good if you have Papenhuyzen, JAC and Hughes in your backline. We don't do speed at WTs except for Brooks and Laurie.

Addo carr did nothing last week
Papenhuyzen and Hughes didn't even play

And Hynes still killed it
He is currently a significant upgrade on many of our players and including Brooks IMO
Brooks could become the next Ben Hunt to accommodate him
And why not
Brooks can tackle, he can pass and he can run from Dummy half
Will Hynes still be this good or better in the coming weeks months and years
That is the ?
![Screenshot_20210526-192754_Samsung Internet.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1622021469114-screenshot_20210526-192754_samsung-internet.jpg)

I should add that I don't think Liddle will be here next year
Unless he is cheap
But he will be chasing the $
Some how I don't think we will give him what he wants
But other clubs will
Just a hunch


Which of those stats is supposed to impress? Run metres? He is fullback in the winning team, that is not such a surprising stat.

Considering he picked up 138 points in his SC score which is 32 points more then his closest team mate Brandon Smith is is impressive enough

This guy is standing up in a team missing two of its main stars
Isn't that good enough for our team
Who in our team can stand up and perform like that


OK....SC. Im not going to get into SC.

He is a good player, in a good system, with good players and a great coach.

Scoring 138 points in SuperCoach while scoring 0 tries is actually a fairly good indicator of a big game. 2 try assists, 2 linebreak assists, 12 tackle breaks, 3 offloads, a linebreak, a bunch of runs and a forced dropout.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373527) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373522) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373467) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373428) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373408) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373400) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373397) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373381) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373364) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373357) said:
If we do end up letting Brooks go to the Raiders i hope we are balls deep in on Hynes say 1 or 6 the rest depends on you. He gets the 1 Laurie goes to 6 but personally for me i would leave Laurie at 1 and use Hynes at 6 Hastings 7 Doueihi can stay at 3 Bj can head back to Oporto.

Those three players are slow. Where is the spark to come from?

Mate Hynes is not slow. Watch Melbourne's game last week. The amount of times he beats blokes to go through the line is unbelievable. His top end over say 70m might not be top end but he has great acceleration

He's no speedster. You want us to have the slowest halves combination in the NRL?

Another one of those players that are fast enough and good enough for Melbourne but not good enough by a long chalk to play for the incredibly successful Tigers.

All well and good if you have Papenhuyzen, JAC and Hughes in your backline. We don't do speed at WTs except for Brooks and Laurie.

Addo carr did nothing last week
Papenhuyzen and Hughes didn't even play

And Hynes still killed it
He is currently a significant upgrade on many of our players and including Brooks IMO
Brooks could become the next Ben Hunt to accommodate him
And why not
Brooks can tackle, he can pass and he can run from Dummy half
Will Hynes still be this good or better in the coming weeks months and years
That is the ?
![Screenshot_20210526-192754_Samsung Internet.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1622021469114-screenshot_20210526-192754_samsung-internet.jpg)

I should add that I don't think Liddle will be here next year
Unless he is cheap
But he will be chasing the $
Some how I don't think we will give him what he wants
But other clubs will
Just a hunch


Which of those stats is supposed to impress? Run metres? He is fullback in the winning team, that is not such a surprising stat.

Considering he picked up 138 points in his SC score which is 32 points more then his closest team mate Brandon Smith is is impressive enough

This guy is **standing up in a team missing two of its main stars**
Isn't that good enough for our team
Who in our team can stand up and perform like that

This guy "stood up" in a team missing two of its main stars?.

He "stood up" in a team containing Justin Olam, JAC, Jahrome Hughes, Jesse Bromwich, Brandon Smith, Christian Welch, Felise Kaufusi, Dale Finucane.

He "stood up" in a team that had Nelson Asofa Solomona....*on the bench.*

EVERYONE in our team would kill to "stand up" in a team like that.

Well in fairness Jahrome Hughes was out and the halves pairing was 28 year old 13 game veteran 2nd rower Chris Lewis and Cooper Johns, who seems to have a career because of who his dad is. Hynes and Brandon Smith were running the show.
 
@nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373546) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373525) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373522) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373467) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373428) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373408) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373400) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373397) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373381) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373364) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373357) said:
If we do end up letting Brooks go to the Raiders i hope we are balls deep in on Hynes say 1 or 6 the rest depends on you. He gets the 1 Laurie goes to 6 but personally for me i would leave Laurie at 1 and use Hynes at 6 Hastings 7 Doueihi can stay at 3 Bj can head back to Oporto.

Those three players are slow. Where is the spark to come from?

Mate Hynes is not slow. Watch Melbourne's game last week. The amount of times he beats blokes to go through the line is unbelievable. His top end over say 70m might not be top end but he has great acceleration

He's no speedster. You want us to have the slowest halves combination in the NRL?

Another one of those players that are fast enough and good enough for Melbourne but not good enough by a long chalk to play for the incredibly successful Tigers.

All well and good if you have Papenhuyzen, JAC and Hughes in your backline. We don't do speed at WTs except for Brooks and Laurie.

Addo carr did nothing last week
Papenhuyzen and Hughes didn't even play

And Hynes still killed it
He is currently a significant upgrade on many of our players and including Brooks IMO
Brooks could become the next Ben Hunt to accommodate him
And why not
Brooks can tackle, he can pass and he can run from Dummy half
Will Hynes still be this good or better in the coming weeks months and years
That is the ?
![Screenshot_20210526-192754_Samsung Internet.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1622021469114-screenshot_20210526-192754_samsung-internet.jpg)

I should add that I don't think Liddle will be here next year
Unless he is cheap
But he will be chasing the $
Some how I don't think we will give him what he wants
But other clubs will
Just a hunch


Which of those stats is supposed to impress? Run metres? He is fullback in the winning team, that is not such a surprising stat.

Considering he picked up 138 points in his SC score which is 32 points more then his closest team mate Brandon Smith is is impressive enough

This guy is standing up in a team missing two of its main stars
Isn't that good enough for our team
Who in our team can stand up and perform like that


OK....SC. Im not going to get into SC.

He is a good player, in a good system, with good players and a great coach.

Scoring 138 points in SuperCoach while scoring 0 tries is actually a fairly good indicator of a big game. ***2 try assists, 2 linebreak assists, 12 tackle breaks, 3 offloads, a linebreak, a bunch of runs and a forced dropout.***

Ok. Im not taking any consideration of SC, but these are good stats.
 
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373378) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373358) said:
@everything-wt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373314) said:
In what way is netball relevant to this thread? ?

Netball player wear skirts
So do some of the wests tigers players

You can't run with the ball in hand in netball
Neither can some of the wests tigers players

I struggle to watch a full game of netball
I struggle to watch a full wests tigers game

There are only 7 players in a netball team
About the same amount of players who actually play for wests tigers on game day

A similar amount of points are concerned in netball and a wests tigers team

There are many comparisons
Should I go on

Ok

I enjoy watching wests tigers lose as much as I like watching netball

Every time a player gets the ball they stop running
So do wests tigers players

Wests Tigers players should get paid the same amount as Netball players

Netball players can't tackle either

Netball players can't kick goals neither can we

Netball players only play for 60 minutes
So do Tigers players

Is that enough

Thanks for the upvote Everything WT
At least you have a sense of humour unlike others

Some people need to lighten up a little
If you can't have a little humour in your life, what is the point of living

Smile people
Don't get so offended with a little harmless humour
By the way
My wife's niece has been playing for the Qld Firebirds for about 4 years now
If anyone should be giving me the down vote it's her

High school humour gets an up vote there mate
 
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.
 
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373558) said:
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.

I don’t think it’s 1m over 3 yrs he’s after
 
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373560) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373558) said:
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.

I don’t think it’s 1m over 3 yrs he’s after

That is what was reported by Fox Sports: "a three year package worth around $1 million". He'll get a lot more than that though I suspect. Dragons and Broncos will definitely chase him and the Sharks can never resist making a play. Raiders, Knights and Tigers also possible suitors.
 
@nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373567) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373560) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373558) said:
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.

I don’t think it’s 1m over 3 yrs he’s after

That is what was reported by Fox Sports: "a three year package worth around $1 million". He'll get a lot more than that though I suspect. Dragons and Broncos will definitely chase him and the Sharks can never resist making a play. Raiders, Knights and Tigers also possible suitors.

He'd be perfect for us.
Some one show him all the love he gets on the forum and it might sway him.
 
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373558) said:
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.

He can be our next Moses Mbye
 
@nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373567) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373560) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373558) said:
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.

I don’t think it’s 1m over 3 yrs he’s after

That is what was reported by Fox Sports: "a three year package worth around $1 million". He'll get a lot more than that though I suspect. Dragons and Broncos will definitely chase him and the Sharks can never resist making a play. Raiders, Knights and Tigers also possible suitors.

Fox reckon 1 plus 1 equals 4. Besides that’s what the horses offered, not what he’s after.
 
If hynes comes here I garuntee you laurie or douihie/madden leaves! Hynes isn’t going to
leave the storm to play 14 here either.

We finally have money to spend and instead of spending it on our weaknesses we want to buy hynes to take over lauries spot because some people thing he’s a “little better”. In what world does this make sense? We are finally recruiting smart not just offering money to big names coming of contract, we are offering money to players who will do a role in this team. Meaning a strike center or winger! Maybe 2 depending on if we keep jet or Joey. A big meter eating ball playing lock and the rest of the money on retaining squad members. We won’t be buying anymore squad members.

Going for hynes doesn’t make sense unless you just want to buy the best players available even if they don’t make sense to your squad. Sounds a bit like what happened last time we had cash to spend just buying big names but no plan on how we use them?

Btw the longer our spine stick together the better the team will play. Laurie will be our number 1 for years to come.
 
@jd-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373393) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373392) said:
courier mail saying Hynes is seeking a 3 year deal worth around $1m.

Done, I'd pay him 1.2m


What? That’s getting up there with Nofa type dollars?!
 
@nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373567) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373560) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373558) said:
I was not that keen on Hynes, but reported desire for a 3 year 1 million contract makes that an easy decision if you can get him for that price. He can play anywhere in the backline and would be handy even as 14 at that price.

I don’t think it’s 1m over 3 yrs he’s after

That is what was reported by Fox Sports: "a three year package worth around $1 million". He'll get a lot more than that though I suspect. Dragons and Broncos will definitely chase him and the Sharks can never resist making a play. Raiders, Knights and Tigers also possible suitors.

If he is signing as a fullback, he will get alot more than 1mil over 3. Id be thinking closer to 1.4 - 1.5 over 3.
 
@tsupps05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373424) said:
@blake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373416) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373402) said:
Hynes is good but where would we play him? We have a fullback, we have a 5/8 and he's not a halfback.... he'd be an excellent 14 but he's not leaving storm to be a utility. (Yes I think Doueihi is our long term 6 and Laurie our long term fullback)

I like Laurie and he has been one of our best but I think right now Hynes is the better fullback. Hynes is far more confident and is always on around the ball which would be a huge boost to our current spine/gameplan/structure.
Having Laurie as a bench utility and a backup fullback/half would be great and still give him the opportunity to develop. Having them compete with each other would be good for everyone.

1 Hynes
6 Doueihi (only needs some minor adjustments)
7 Brooks
9 Liddle
14 Laurie

I'd rather:

1 Hynes
4 Doueihi
6 Laurie
7 Hastings
14 Brooks (if he is here next year)

Hynes isn't at our club.
Laurie is an exceptionally talented fullback.
Hastings has never successfully held down 7 in the NRL
Brooks is our 7.
 
I am going to go out on a limb here
Shoot me down if you feel the need

Wally Lewis was never a fast player yet he was always able to destroy teams with his footy smarts
Players were always hanging back to see what he would do
As a NSW supporter it was frustrating to watch as he would always carve up the opposition with his plays and his slow speed
It is not always about speed but I agree it does help
We need smart footy players on our team
Players who can think quick
Hynes had 14 try assists in 522 minutes and was second in the comp for Try assists and yet he played far less minutes then most others on that list
He is able to find space even though he is not that fast
People can knock him all they like but you can not put his success on his team mates
He has slotted in well in to the Storm in the absence of some of its best players

I will ask this question
If you had to pick a player in current form in your team from this list, who would it be
James Roberts, Bj, Talau, Kepoa, Cini, Madden, Simpkins, Liddle, Hynes

IMO Hynes has played better then all of these players so far this year
Now I am not stating that some of our players won't get better but we have all been waiting for ten years to make the finals

Hynes just has a knack of knowing where to be at the right time

I am not saying to throw the cheque book at him, but we should be making inquiries and if the price is right then we should put in an offer

If by some chance that Laurie does move into the Halves with Brooks as some think it is inevitable, then who is our fullback
 
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373604) said:
I am going to go out on a limb here
Shoot me down if you feel the need

Wally Lewis was never a fast player yet he was always able to destroy teams with his footy smarts
Players were always hanging back to see what he would do
As a NSW supporter it was frustrating to watch as he would always carve up the opposition with his plays and his slow speed
It is not always about speed but I agree it does help
We need smart footy players on our team
Players who can think quick
Hynes had 14 try assists in 522 minutes and was second in the comp for Try assists and yet he played far less minutes then most others on that list
He is able to find space even though he is not that fast
People can knock him all they like but you can not put his success on his team mates
He has slotted in well in to the Storm in the absence of some of its best players

I will ask this question
If you had to pick a player in current form in your team from this list, who would it be
James Roberts, Bj, Talau, Kepoa, Cini, Madden, Simpkins, Liddle, Hynes

IMO Hynes has played better then all of these players so far this year
Now I am not stating that some of our players won't get better but we have all been waiting for ten years to make the finals

Hynes just has a knack of knowing where to be at the right time

I am not saying to throw the cheque book at him, but we should be making inquiries and if the price is right then we should put in an offer

If by some chance that Laurie does move into the Halves with Brooks as some think it is inevitable, then who is our fullback

Logen Dillon is next cab off the rank at fullback but if we signed Hynes it would be him and it would be a good decision. Hynes at 1 and Laurie at 6 would be great.
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1373587) said:
When was the last time we got a Storm player who worked out well for us? I mean apart from Harry because we didn’t actually buy him.

100% agreed.
The Storm mid range is to be Avoided.
They train hard. But they tend to dip when they go outside that system. So that player worth 900k, really only 500k when they leave the storm. Think Blair, Tollman, Turner, Scott, Johnson, Rochow, Etc.

Now the storms Top shelf. Well Cooper Cronk has done wonders at Easts. Ingles, Israel, etc are just physical freaks. They will go well.
 

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