Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379316) said:
@goanna57 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379289) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

We have been missing out for a couple of years now I have asked the question many times still no answer

I know, it is depressing, IMHO Madge is far from an attraction, in fact I have seen stories on coaches players least like to play under, Madge features highly, also heard some players say it on FOX

Don't we have walk up or two in Strathfield or swanky terraces on Glebe Pt Rd to offer prospective recruits? A happy wife/partner is a happy life and contented footy player.
 
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379320) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379314) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379306) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379305) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

I'm halfway there with you on this one but it sounds like something a bad recruiter would say. Has someone at the club said this?

No not at all, just my opinion. For example, if Munster came on the market and we attempted to sign him but missed out. I can accept that.

What I wouldn't be able to accept is if we turned around and signed Matt Moylan after that. I would want us to make a smart recruitment decision after that.

If Munster came on the market and we were chasing his signature, regardless of other teams, and we missed out, that is an absolute failure

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

But how fast did Nero burn Rome ??
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379326) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379320) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379314) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379306) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379305) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

I'm halfway there with you on this one but it sounds like something a bad recruiter would say. Has someone at the club said this?

No not at all, just my opinion. For example, if Munster came on the market and we attempted to sign him but missed out. I can accept that.

What I wouldn't be able to accept is if we turned around and signed Matt Moylan after that. I would want us to make a smart recruitment decision after that.

If Munster came on the market and we were chasing his signature, regardless of other teams, and we missed out, that is an absolute failure

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

But how fast did Nero burn Rome ??

Nero = taylor/cleary/madge?
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379328) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379326) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379320) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379314) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379306) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379305) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

I'm halfway there with you on this one but it sounds like something a bad recruiter would say. Has someone at the club said this?

No not at all, just my opinion. For example, if Munster came on the market and we attempted to sign him but missed out. I can accept that.

What I wouldn't be able to accept is if we turned around and signed Matt Moylan after that. I would want us to make a smart recruitment decision after that.

If Munster came on the market and we were chasing his signature, regardless of other teams, and we missed out, that is an absolute failure

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

But how fast did Nero burn Rome ??

Nero = taylor/cleary/madge?

Lamb , Pearce ......
 
We havenr actually signed someone for next year that plays nrl lol

Hastings and gildart both superleague for the past few years

Wonder whom we wil get next...
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379330) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379328) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379326) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379320) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379314) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379306) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379305) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

I'm halfway there with you on this one but it sounds like something a bad recruiter would say. Has someone at the club said this?

No not at all, just my opinion. For example, if Munster came on the market and we attempted to sign him but missed out. I can accept that.

What I wouldn't be able to accept is if we turned around and signed Matt Moylan after that. I would want us to make a smart recruitment decision after that.

If Munster came on the market and we were chasing his signature, regardless of other teams, and we missed out, that is an absolute failure

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

But how fast did Nero burn Rome ??

Nero = taylor/cleary/madge?

Lamb , Pearce ......

Lamb still gives me nightmares. Same as anasta
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379332) said:
We havenr actually signed someone for next year that plays nrl lol

Hastings and gildart both superleague for the past few years

Wonder whom we wil get next...

That wiggles guy go alright on podcasts. Decent highlights package as well😂
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379334) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379332) said:
We havenr actually signed someone for next year that plays nrl lol

Hastings and gildart both superleague for the past few years

Wonder whom we wil get next...

That wiggles guy go alright on podcasts. Decent highlights package as well?

ESL signings never ever go wrong ...just ask the Waiders and Wicky ......
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379337) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379334) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379332) said:
We havenr actually signed someone for next year that plays nrl lol

Hastings and gildart both superleague for the past few years

Wonder whom we wil get next...

That wiggles guy go alright on podcasts. Decent highlights package as well?

ESL signings never ever go wrong ...just ask the Waiders and Wicky ......

Who wouldnt go crazy hearing that annoying clap everygame, and living in Canberra lol
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379339) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379337) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379334) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379332) said:
We havenr actually signed someone for next year that plays nrl lol

Hastings and gildart both superleague for the past few years

Wonder whom we wil get next...

That wiggles guy go alright on podcasts. Decent highlights package as well?

ESL signings never ever go wrong ...just ask the Waiders and Wicky ......

Who wouldnt go crazy hearing that annoying clap everygame, and living in Canberra lol

If I was a Raiders fan and all the transfer fees they paid to get these blokes as well as the actual contracts ....these blokes wouldn't have got out of Canberra .....
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379269) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379211) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379172) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379078) said:
@sly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379073) said:
Good luck to nicho Hynes getting those dollars but this time next year people will be saying what a waste of money besides Cronk how many players come out of that system and play well elsewhere

cronk and ingis and they are future immortals
that is about it

Tohu Harris
Israel Folau
Tino
Kimmorley
Widdop
Maloney
Proctor
Blake Green

It does happen.

Do you mean come into and out of the Storm system, or debut in the Storm system? Nicho Hynes is a Manly junior via centy coast and Mackay.

debut in storm system then move to another club.
Did forget Maloney he was pretty solid
I would say success stories
kimmorley won his comp with storm so would consider he never had the same success afterwards

Maloney
cronk
inglis

Tough on Kimmorley, he played Origin for 10 years after leaving Storm. Also he debuted at Newcastle then Mariners before Storm.

Kimmorley debutedfr kangaroos in 1999 whilst at the storm
 
I like Finucane but I’d prefer we go ultra aggressive for Jospeh Tapine, the raiders look like they’re unraveling and this might be the perfect opportunity to snag a class player

Also has that New Zealand connection with Madge, should offer him a big deal and get him over here

11. Luciano Leiluia
12. Shawn Blore
13. Joseph Tapine

That’s some serious talent
 
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379346) said:
I like Finucane but I’d prefer we go ultra aggressive for Jospeh Tapine, the raiders look like they’re unraveling and this might be the perfect opportunity to snag a class player

Also has that New Zealand connection with Madge, should offer him a big deal and get him over here

11. Luciano Leiluia
12. Shawn Blore
13. Joseph Tapine

That’s some serious talent

as much as I agree, there would be clubs lining up down the street for Tapine. players like that don't come to us at this point unfortunately. Egan Butcher is a more realistic option for 13. sounds like we're after him too.
 
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379347) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379346) said:
I like Finucane but I’d prefer we go ultra aggressive for Jospeh Tapine, the raiders look like they’re unraveling and this might be the perfect opportunity to snag a class player

Also has that New Zealand connection with Madge, should offer him a big deal and get him over here

11. Luciano Leiluia
12. Shawn Blore
13. Joseph Tapine

That’s some serious talent

as much as I agree, there would be clubs lining up down the street for Tapine. players like that don't come to us at this point unfortunately. Egan Butcher is a more realistic option for 13. sounds like we're after him too.

Hopefully we dont butcher our option to get egan...


I will show myself out
 
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379346) said:
I like Finucane but I’d prefer we go ultra aggressive for Jospeh Tapine, the raiders look like they’re unraveling and this might be the perfect opportunity to snag a class player

Also has that New Zealand connection with Madge, should offer him a big deal and get him over here

11. Luciano Leiluia
12. Shawn Blore
13. Joseph Tapine

That’s some serious talent

Can’t say I like Tapine.
Always trying to look like a tough guy… third man in all the time.
Maybe ok if he realises you can be considered a tough guy instead by the way you run and defend.
 
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379316) said:
@goanna57 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379289) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

We have been missing out for a couple of years now I have asked the question many times still no answer

I know, it is depressing, IMHO Madge is far from an attraction, in fact I have seen stories on coaches players least like to play under, Madge features highly, also heard some players say it on FOX

I don't care. We've never been a marquee club. Our major success happened of the back of some brilliant kids.

Madge has been the best coach I've seen in relation to recruitment at the Tigers. To me that is his best attribute. They seem to be building a club for the future.

I wish we had signed a couple more juniors if anything. That Walsh kid and Burton are ones I'd wish we'd gotten.
 
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379346) said:
I like Finucane but I’d prefer we go ultra aggressive for Jospeh Tapine, the raiders look like they’re unraveling and this might be the perfect opportunity to snag a class player

Also has that New Zealand connection with Madge, should offer him a big deal and get him over here

11. Luciano Leiluia
12. Shawn Blore
13. Joseph Tapine

That’s some serious talent

Maybe I don’t watch enough but I haven’t seen anything from blore to say he’s a starter. Has he done anything since taking on brown which was in the space of 5 minutes
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379081) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379079) said:
@sly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379073) said:
Good luck to nicho Hynes getting those dollars but this time next year people will be saying what a waste of money besides Cronk how many players come out of that system and play well elsewhere

Particularly at the sharkies Moylan,Dugan they have had success with Graham and Lewis but they were established first graders when they joined anyway good luck Nicko

wrong move for Nicko he woukd have been better going to Brisbane
sharks get Hynes and McInnes good buys

Do you realise you have contradicted your own statement within the same post?
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379314) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379306) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379305) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379303) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379302) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379286) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379171) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379168) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379164) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1379153) said:
So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

I'm halfway there with you on this one but it sounds like something a bad recruiter would say. Has someone at the club said this?

No not at all, just my opinion. For example, if Munster came on the market and we attempted to sign him but missed out. I can accept that.

What I wouldn't be able to accept is if we turned around and signed Matt Moylan after that. I would want us to make a smart recruitment decision after that.

If Munster came on the market and we were chasing his signature, regardless of other teams, and we missed out, that is an absolute failure


Then Storm are even more massive failures for having Hynes at the club and then losing him?
 

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