Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394566) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

So your son, a rookie, gets offered $200k at the chooks and $200,050 at the tigers you would push him to the tigers?

Personally I disown him if he even considered playing for another club.
 
@balmainjnr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394285) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394264) said:
@balmainjnr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394253) said:
I don’t have anything against Lee but he needs to stop being a dial a comment.
For a start, stop talking about which players we are targeting in the media. All it’s done thus far is put egg on our collective faces.

I don't get the problem - they asked Lee about those players, he didn't bring it up. Then he says "yeah we've spoke about them, we are looking for quality players".

I see nothing untoward about that.

I get where you are coming from.
For me, all he needs to say when asked is that he doesn’t comment on internal recruitment targets/discussions.
When has Lee acknowledging targets in the media worked out well for us?

I hardly think that confirming you have considered a player is tantamount to losing out on their signature. You are talking about 2 players here, right? Latrell and JAC. Lee had good reason to mention those players when we were apparently within a hair's breadth of signing both of them. You can't build a trend out of 2.

Because of course, when Lee says nothing at all, Tigers sign 50 elite players.
 
@tigger19 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394468) said:
Yes sorry Talau should be dropped as well, Cini,Hoffman or cooper given a shot

A big no for me on Cini.

He epitomises mediocrity and lameness. His moustache and mullet will distinguish him like Kirk Reynoldson with his stupid beard.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394566) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

So your son, a rookie, gets offered $200k at the chooks and $200,050 at the tigers you would push him to the tigers?

No chance in hell
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394572) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394566) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

So your son, a rookie, gets offered $200k at the chooks and $200,050 at the tigers you would push him to the tigers?

Personally I disown him if he even considered playing for another club.

Hopefully you wouldn't
 
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394568) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

Agree, there is probably a percentage of players that go for glory, but for the majority, it’s surely about the money and why not, they don’t have long careers.

Look at who the dogs have signed?

The argument is so stupid. It's pretty clear that 99.9% of players go for the dollars. If they are on top dollar they will stay at their current club if they keep getting paid top dollars.
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

What’s your defence like Earl?
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394576) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394572) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394566) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

So your son, a rookie, gets offered $200k at the chooks and $200,050 at the tigers you would push him to the tigers?

Personally I disown him if he even considered playing for another club.

Hopefully you wouldn't

I guarantee you he would be signing for the Tigers if I had anything to do with it and I'd be spewing if he didn't.

Sorry but playing for the Tigers is a massive privilege.
 
@gcfan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394579) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

What’s your defence like Earl?

As good as Nofo's.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

agree, its not just an issue for our club but competition wide.
Why are the Storm, Roosters consistently at the top? They get the choice of the elite young talent because those young players know they are walking straight into a strong team. They then also then get their pick of the talent who have been around a while but never won anything as they want to go to a strong team for a shot at a title. Finally, they can generally keep their top players because they have been successful at that club they feel a sense of belonging there.

The lower teams however need to pay massive overs to attract talent. But they are then instantly disadvantaged as their salary cap is now disproportional and can not sign enough elite talent to field a strong team. So they continue to underperform and remain a lower team.
 
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394568) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

Agree, there is probably a percentage of players that go for glory, but for the majority, it’s surely about the money and why not, they don’t have long careers.

Look at who the dogs have signed?

I hear this a lot, but my take on this is Burton was a steal at that price, JAC not over priced, Thompson good value for money, Burton around market value, Flanagan on $350k is not over paying, Cotric was an Australian and NSW player when he signed, so maybe slightly over priced. DWZ extremely over priced, Allan over priced, Napa over priced but they needed a signing then, Jackson and Elliott probably offered to much to stay.
Overall not as bad as people make out, and they got some quality in amongst them, we couldn't land some of those, and we tried for quite a few of them
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394582) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394576) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394572) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394566) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

So your son, a rookie, gets offered $200k at the chooks and $200,050 at the tigers you would push him to the tigers?

Personally I disown him if he even considered playing for another club.

Hopefully you wouldn't

I guarantee you he would be signing for the Tigers if I had anything to do with it and I'd be spewing if he didn't.

Sorry but playing for the Tigers is a massive privilege.

I like your passion for the club
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394583) said:
@gcfan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394579) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394555) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

Honestly I think the no 1 decision is dollars. So if the Tigers offered me $50 extra per week I'd go there.

What’s your defence like Earl?

As good as Nofo's.

Cmon Earl, I was gonna send Hartigan around.
Seriously mate, love your passion good on ya! If only we could find 30 players who truly felt like that about this club we might get that attitude we so desperately need.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394300) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394295) said:
There is a lot of talk about light at the end of the tunnel but little doing. Makes me believe they are all talk.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
Is just the freight train coming your way

I think the most quotable part of that song is actually

"Then it comes to be yeah yeah, then it *comes* to be yeah yeah,
then it ***comes*** to be yeah yeah, then it comes to beee yeeaaah,
then it COMES to be-eh yeah, then it comes to be yeah
then it comes to be yeah yeah, then it comes to beeeeee yeaaaaaaaaah"

In the Jimmy Hetfield style
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394551) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394528) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Ok so you’ve just completely skipped my question. We can’t get quality players because we suck. I’d argue every other team in the league bar the broncos are closer to winning the comp soon than we are.

I didn't skip your question at all. I don't really understand your question. I'd definitely want to play at the Tigers and I'd recommend anyone to play at the Tigers.

I disagree with your assessment about us not being able to get quality players as well. We just got Ken M. Hastings has signed with us. Giddart has signed with us. Simpkins re-signed with us.

I think that we are in with similar chances of winning the comp within whatever number of years as most other teams. The top teams today like Melbourne and Penrith are much more likely to win the comp within the next couple of years but that can change easily.

Not one of those players you’ve mentioned are quality players. People have turned on Ken already, Hastings and Gildart are super league quality at the moment like David Fifita as in Andrews brother and simpkins in is stuck in reserve grade behind the most bog average 9 in the comp.

Of course you definitely want to play at the tigers, you’re a fan. I’d love to hear your enticing speech to get someone to sign with the tigers, I’d imagine it involves said player getting to wear the same rose tinted glasses you have
 
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394595) said:
Manly just dusted the Titan 56 to 24, these blowouts are becoming common, aren’t they?

Sure are. I watched the Titans game and what was really obvious was when Manly gained momentum the Titans just couldn’t stop it. We suffer the same issue and like the Titans just can’t wrestle it back
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Instead I’m in a world where broncos and bulldogs fans are messaging me saying “far out I feel sorry for you”

Well your friends are peanuts because we have as many wins as both those clubs combined, as horrid as we are.
 
@gregjm87 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394585) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

agree, its not just an issue for our club but competition wide.
Why are the Storm, Roosters consistently at the top? They get the choice of the elite young talent because those young players know they are walking straight into a strong team. They then also then get their pick of the talent who have been around a while but never won anything as they want to go to a strong team for a shot at a title. Finally, they can generally keep their top players because they have been successful at that club they feel a sense of belonging there.

The lower teams however need to pay massive overs to attract talent. But they are then instantly disadvantaged as their salary cap is now disproportional and can not sign enough elite talent to field a strong team. So they continue to underperform and remain a lower team.

Been saying it for years, the salary cap disadvantages the lower teams because they have to pay overs so the get less bang for their cap
 
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394603) said:
@gregjm87 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394585) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394544) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394542) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394523) said:
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394513) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1394501) said:
Why would anyone want to sign here ? Genuine question.

To play first grade and win the comp. It can be turned around pretty easily with quality players. If I was a quality player it'd be really easy for me to sign up to the Tigers. If my son was a quality player I'd push him to sign with the Tigers.

Really? What would draw you to us?

Pretty simple - playing first grade and winning the comp. What is wrong with that ? Honestly I don't see any valid counter argument.

But if other clubs want you aswell? I can see players come here if it's their only choice but that's no choice at all.

agree, its not just an issue for our club but competition wide.
Why are the Storm, Roosters consistently at the top? They get the choice of the elite young talent because those young players know they are walking straight into a strong team. They then also then get their pick of the talent who have been around a while but never won anything as they want to go to a strong team for a shot at a title. Finally, they can generally keep their top players because they have been successful at that club they feel a sense of belonging there.

The lower teams however need to pay massive overs to attract talent. But they are then instantly disadvantaged as their salary cap is now disproportional and can not sign enough elite talent to field a strong team. So they continue to underperform and remain a lower team.

Been saying it for years, the salary cap disadvantages the lower teams because they have to pay overs so the get less bang for their cap

got any solutions?
 

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