Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TigerTone]

Looking at the reality of the situation we should sign no one but younger up and coming players and keep at it. Work with pathways and junior development. If we run through 3 CEOs and 3 coaches along the way so be it. People are finally looking at the long term and we have to get used to the reality of it.

It’s where we have done well over many seasons now. Aloai, Twal, Matterson, Luciano, Monirovski, Luciano, Addo Carr, Utoikamanu, Simpkins, Douihei.

Compare that to experienced players Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Matulino, Blair.

We have a problem recruiting experienced talent well before Madge arrived. We have to keep at the under the radar recruitment and develop.

But dont we need some experienced quality for them to learn off? Like who Packer and Tamou were supposed to be. Players like them, but better, who the kids can learn off.

I dont see it as a wise move to have young up and coming players who are ready for the NRL's big stage to be learning off people like Mbye and Packer and even Tamou for that matter.
I'd rather be bringing these guys up making their own mark on the game as they see it.
Sure they can base their game off their heros and players theyve looked up to while growing up.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I wonder if the recruitment meeting has started yet.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Looking at the reality of the situation we should sign no one but younger up and coming players and keep at it. Work with pathways and junior development. If we run through 3 CEOs and 3 coaches along the way so be it. People are finally looking at the long term and we have to get used to the reality of it.

It’s where we have done well over many seasons now. Aloai, Twal, Matterson, Luciano, Monirovski, Luciano, Addo Carr, Utoikamanu, Simpkins, Douihei.

Compare that to experienced players Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Matulino, Blair.

We have a problem recruiting experienced talent well before Madge arrived. We have to keep at the under the radar recruitment and develop.

Agree and we have no choice however this is a results driven business.

It's been 10 years now of no finals and if we go another 3 or 4 years like this our brand is going to be hammered and makes it even harder to keep / gain sponsors etc.. Considering how bad we have been on the field we as a club have done an excellent job with off the field activities and making money so just imagine if we are successful on the field.. we have the receipt to be a very big and successful club.

We are working hard to clean the dead wood out and players that are just happy to be paid but even removing them we need to buy the true leaders we need to create good habits and for me that starts with a guy like Dale Funicane. We have a lot of money free for next year onwards so getting a guy like this would help our brand big time.

We do have some of the best young talent and they deserve to be trained correctly and not by guys like Packer / Mbye.

I agree but I don’t see the Finucanes of the world joining the Tigers unless it’s a bad deal for the club. That’s the issue.

Its very unlikely at the moment unless it big overs.
I don't know who they can target but there would have to be a few experience players out there that we could target that will help the culture.
we are stuck between a rock and a hard place in its frustrating :man-shrugging:

I would be very surprised if we sign any sought after players until we start winning.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

 

[jirskyr]

Looking at the reality of the situation we should sign no one but younger up and coming players and keep at it. Work with pathways and junior development. If we run through 3 CEOs and 3 coaches along the way so be it. People are finally looking at the long term and we have to get used to the reality of it.

It’s where we have done well over many seasons now. Aloai, Twal, Matterson, Luciano, Monirovski, Luciano, Addo Carr, Utoikamanu, Simpkins, Douihei.

Compare that to experienced players Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Matulino, Blair.

We have a problem recruiting experienced talent well before Madge arrived. We have to keep at the under the radar recruitment and develop.

But dont we need some experienced quality for them to learn off? Like who Packer and Tamou were supposed to be. Players like them, but better, who the kids can learn off.

How do you sign a good experienced player who is still near the top of their game? Most of those players only look for a new gig when they are on the downhill slide.

 

[weststigerman]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

They have injuries at FB...the plan is to move him to 9.

Hastings form this year has been very poor. I watch the SL most weeks and he has been really poor, there is no other way to put it.

I like him and still have hope, but he should not be outplayed weekly by guys like Drinkwater and Coote and other guys washed up years ago in the NRL.

His form is a legit concern.

Re Gildart...I think he will be a good signing, IF his pace comes back. He had explosive pace 18 months ago, but he had a very bad injury and seems to have lost his explosiveness. A little like Lawry did.

Gildart quoted below...he won't ever be the same as pre injury.

**"It's something I'll have to deal with throughout my career now," he told Rugby League Live.**

**"It doesn't just go away, it's a little reminder and having spoken to other lads who've had the same injury, they've said the key is to keep on top of it.

"It does get stiff and sore in contact sessions or after games. It does get tender, but I've just got to ice it and get treatment on it all the time."**

 

[weststigerman]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

They have injuries at FB...the plan is to move him to 9.

Hastings form this year has been very poor. I watch the SL most weeks and he has been really poor, there is no other way to put it.

I like him and still have hope, but he should not be outplayed weekly by guys like Drinkwater and Coote and other guys washed up years ago in the NRL.

His form is a legit concern.

His form is going to be ordinary if he's moved from half to fullback and then to hooker.

I'm more concerned about the form of the 17 nuffies we had playing yesterday. One player won't make a difference.

 

[Needaname]

This is my signing suggestion for the club, it’s free. Go out any get two second rowers who absolutely harass opposition halves.

If you watch the tries we concede they are usually off a backline shift where a half or five eight goes deep into the line then calmly passes it to an overlap out wide. Watch Souths tries today. Luci and Garner are there but they don’t put pressure on or even touch the playmaker after he passes. They should be trying to break their ribs. This happens on all but one of their tries and some of the disallowed ones. It’s actually a simple fix.

Like who?

Hudson Young

Just a thought..I wonder what impact Badger has had this year..we are far less aggressive in contact and quickly lift hands to show no contact at PTB .. from my knowledge of corporate there is a strong move towards protecting brand image and I wonder whether players are being given the corporate message now , especially in the opening 20 mins..

Well he is doing the same role for the NSW blues so but I’m not sure they are playing / defending the same way.

You make a good point re the quick hands. Other than an over zealous Seyfarth we rarely get pinged for a ruck infringement.

I watched the Cowboys vs us the other day and they frustrated us to oblivion, hands all over the ball, marker crowding the play the ball.

There were two instances that stood out to me, Liddle got pinged for a dropped ball when the second defender retreated through the ruck and interfered with the play from off side.
The second was Steph dropping the ball at the play the ball when he was getting to his feet was still being held by the marker in front and the defender at the back.

Basically either we don’t push enough we don’t push the right way or the refs are just out to get us and we have no hope to begin with.

The last time we were competitive was when we frustrated the Penrith forwards into playing a slower game than they were used to.

 

[Needaname]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

They have injuries at FB...the plan is to move him to 9.

Hastings form this year has been very poor. I watch the SL most weeks and he has been really poor, there is no other way to put it.

I like him and still have hope, but he should not be outplayed weekly by guys like Drinkwater and Coote and other guys washed up years ago in the NRL.

His form is a legit concern.

Re Gildart...I think he will be a good signing, IF his pace comes back. He had explosive pace 18 months ago, but he had a very bad injury and seems to have lost his explosiveness. A little like Lawry did.

Gildart quoted below...he won't ever be the same as pre injury.

**"It's something I'll have to deal with throughout my career now," he told Rugby League Live.**

**"It doesn't just go away, it's a little reminder and having spoken to other lads who've had the same injury, they've said the key is to keep on top of it.

"It does get stiff and sore in contact sessions or after games. It does get tender, but I've just got to ice it and get treatment on it all the time."**

What was Gildarts injury?

 

[tigertuff]

How long are we stuck with Maumalo ? To think I was absolutely crucified on here when we signed him and how’s he gone so far ? Still runs like he did with the warriors. Bugger all intent and as slow as anything.

God I hope Maguire is gone by the bye round. Wont stand for another paper over cracks win against the broncos in round 18 but after today, they’ll probably beat us

Maumalo is a good specialist winger. I’ve been watching him for years and he’s been close to the best winger in the competition at times. His firm dropped this year The entire Tigers team is underperforming it’s hard for a winger to shine. Give the bloke a chance he will come good. Solid player for 350k a season.

Daine Laurie runs harder than him. He is as slow as a wet week and you can turn the queen mary around quicker. He was not what we needed.

 

[happy_tiger]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

They have injuries at FB...the plan is to move him to 9.

Hastings form this year has been very poor. I watch the SL most weeks and he has been really poor, there is no other way to put it.

I like him and still have hope, but he should not be outplayed weekly by guys like Drinkwater and Coote and other guys washed up years ago in the NRL.

His form is a legit concern.

Re Gildart...I think he will be a good signing, IF his pace comes back. He had explosive pace 18 months ago, but he had a very bad injury and seems to have lost his explosiveness. A little like Lawry did.

Gildart quoted below...he won't ever be the same as pre injury.

**"It's something I'll have to deal with throughout my career now," he told Rugby League Live.**

**"It doesn't just go away, it's a little reminder and having spoken to other lads who've had the same injury, they've said the key is to keep on top of it.

"It does get stiff and sore in contact sessions or after games. It does get tender, but I've just got to ice it and get treatment on it all the time."**

I'm so happy we signed to fully fit and explosive backs ....OMG ....lol

 

[Cairnstigers]

Stgeorge are chasing Will Hopoate
That will free up $ for the Bulldogs to sign a forward
See ya Mikaele

They got there backs now onto the forwards

Meanwhile in Tigerland
🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗

 

[Cairnstigers]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

They have injuries at FB...the plan is to move him to 9.

Hastings form this year has been very poor. I watch the SL most weeks and he has been really poor, there is no other way to put it.

I like him and still have hope, but he should not be outplayed weekly by guys like Drinkwater and Coote and other guys washed up years ago in the NRL.

His form is a legit concern.

Re Gildart...I think he will be a good signing, IF his pace comes back. He had explosive pace 18 months ago, but he had a very bad injury and seems to have lost his explosiveness. A little like Lawry did.

Gildart quoted below...he won't ever be the same as pre injury.

**"It's something I'll have to deal with throughout my career now," he told Rugby League Live.**

**"It doesn't just go away, it's a little reminder and having spoken to other lads who've had the same injury, they've said the key is to keep on top of it.

"It does get stiff and sore in contact sessions or after games. It does get tender, but I've just got to ice it and get treatment on it all the time."**

I'm so happy we signed to fully fit and explosive backs ....OMG ....lol

Another dud by the sounds of it

 

[851]

Stgeorge are chasing Will Hopoate
That will free up $ for the Bulldogs to sign a forward
See ya Mikaele

They got there backs now onto the forwards

Meanwhile in Tigerland
🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗

No the Bulldogs have no idea, ask the plethora of experts on here, if we were as active in the market and offloading players, our fans would be stoked

 

[Cairnstigers]

Stgeorge are chasing Will Hopoate
That will free up $ for the Bulldogs to sign a forward
See ya Mikaele

They got there backs now onto the forwards

Meanwhile in Tigerland
??????

No the Bulldogs have no idea, ask the plethora of experts on here, if we were as active in the market and offloading players, our fans would be stoked

Why can't we Offa Nofa or Bj

 

[TigerTownSFS]

Looking at the reality of the situation we should sign no one but younger up and coming players and keep at it. Work with pathways and junior development. If we run through 3 CEOs and 3 coaches along the way so be it. People are finally looking at the long term and we have to get used to the reality of it.

It’s where we have done well over many seasons now. Aloai, Twal, Matterson, Luciano, Monirovski, Luciano, Addo Carr, Utoikamanu, Simpkins, Douihei.

Compare that to experienced players Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Matulino, Blair.

We have a problem recruiting experienced talent well before Madge arrived. We have to keep at the under the radar recruitment and develop.

Agree and we have no choice however this is a results driven business.

It's been 10 years now of no finals and if we go another 3 or 4 years like this our brand is going to be hammered and makes it even harder to keep / gain sponsors etc.. Considering how bad we have been on the field we as a club have done an excellent job with off the field activities and making money so just imagine if we are successful on the field.. we have the receipt to be a very big and successful club.

We are working hard to clean the dead wood out and players that are just happy to be paid but even removing them we need to buy the true leaders we need to create good habits and for me that starts with a guy like Dale Funicane. We have a lot of money free for next year onwards so getting a guy like this would help our brand big time.

We do have some of the best young talent and they deserve to be trained correctly and not by guys like Packer / Mbye.

I agree but I don’t see the Finucanes of the world joining the Tigers unless it’s a bad deal for the club. That’s the issue.

Isn’t there another option where we get a coach who can attract players. I’m ok with Maguire staying on through the rebuild but if for whatever reason he can’t attract players (like Barret or Fitzgibbon can) then the coach himself becomes a barrier to the rebuild.

 

[Goanna57]

Looking at the reality of the situation we should sign no one but younger up and coming players and keep at it. Work with pathways and junior development. If we run through 3 CEOs and 3 coaches along the way so be it. People are finally looking at the long term and we have to get used to the reality of it.

It’s where we have done well over many seasons now. Aloai, Twal, Matterson, Luciano, Monirovski, Luciano, Addo Carr, Utoikamanu, Simpkins, Douihei.

Compare that to experienced players Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Matulino, Blair.

We have a problem recruiting experienced talent well before Madge arrived. We have to keep at the under the radar recruitment and develop.

But dont we need some experienced quality for them to learn off? Like who Packer and Tamou were supposed to be. Players like them, but better, who the kids can learn off.

How do you sign a good experienced player who is still near the top of their game? Most of those players only look for a new gig when they are on the downhill slide.

Are you talking about players like Latrell or JAC

 

[TigerWest]

Looking at the reality of the situation we should sign no one but younger up and coming players and keep at it. Work with pathways and junior development. If we run through 3 CEOs and 3 coaches along the way so be it. People are finally looking at the long term and we have to get used to the reality of it.

It’s where we have done well over many seasons now. Aloai, Twal, Matterson, Luciano, Monirovski, Luciano, Addo Carr, Utoikamanu, Simpkins, Douihei.

Compare that to experienced players Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, Matulino, Blair.

We have a problem recruiting experienced talent well before Madge arrived. We have to keep at the under the radar recruitment and develop.

Agree and we have no choice however this is a results driven business.

It's been 10 years now of no finals and if we go another 3 or 4 years like this our brand is going to be hammered and makes it even harder to keep / gain sponsors etc.. Considering how bad we have been on the field we as a club have done an excellent job with off the field activities and making money so just imagine if we are successful on the field.. we have the receipt to be a very big and successful club.

We are working hard to clean the dead wood out and players that are just happy to be paid but even removing them we need to buy the true leaders we need to create good habits and for me that starts with a guy like Dale Funicane. We have a lot of money free for next year onwards so getting a guy like this would help our brand big time.

We do have some of the best young talent and they deserve to be trained correctly and not by guys like Packer / Mbye.

I agree but I don’t see the Finucanes of the world joining the Tigers unless it’s a bad deal for the club. That’s the issue.

Isn’t there another option where we get a coach who can attract players. I’m ok with Maguire staying on through the rebuild but if for whatever reason he can’t attract players (like Barret or Fitzgibbon can) then the coach himself becomes a barrier to the rebuild.

The dogs are paying “way” overs, to get their man, we aren’t, not saying that is the way to go, but that is what they are doing.

Sharks just recently lost Reynolds, but not sure what they are paying though?

We will get one or two, sooner rather than later, I hope, but the best player in the world won’t fix teams, where players don’t want to defend?

 

[ElleryHanley]

Ex-North Queensland NRL star Lachlan Coote has helped champions St Helens pile on the agony for Wigan with a 24-6 derby triumph, condemning their arch rivals to a fifth straight loss and their worst run in Super League for 15 years.


Wigan are in a massive slump….**Hastings has gone right off the boil also.** Being outplayed badly lately by blokes washed up in NRL years ago. Gildart still not explosive yet post injury.

Wigan are now convinced Hastings is not a half due to lack of speed and have moved him to FB whilst they have injuries and plan on playing him at hooker once their FB is fit.

He was badly outplayed by Drinkwater (ex wests state cup) the other week.


A genuine concern.

Why would anyone move a player out from halfback to fullback due to lack of speed? That's one of the main reasons the club moved AD out of fullback and into the halves.

A halfback doesn't have to run like JAC. They need to get the ball to the fast players quickly, that's ball skills.

They have injuries at FB...the plan is to move him to 9.

Hastings form this year has been very poor. I watch the SL most weeks and he has been really poor, there is no other way to put it.

I like him and still have hope, but he should not be outplayed weekly by guys like Drinkwater and Coote and other guys washed up years ago in the NRL.

His form is a legit concern.

Re Gildart...I think he will be a good signing, IF his pace comes back. He had explosive pace 18 months ago, but he had a very bad injury and seems to have lost his explosiveness. A little like Lawry did.

Gildart quoted below...he won't ever be the same as pre injury.

**"It's something I'll have to deal with throughout my career now," he told Rugby League Live.**

**"It doesn't just go away, it's a little reminder and having spoken to other lads who've had the same injury, they've said the key is to keep on top of it.

"It does get stiff and sore in contact sessions or after games. It does get tender, but I've just got to ice it and get treatment on it all the time."**

What was Gildarts injury?

He did a shoulder badly...(The centre **missed almost a year of action last season** as he recovered from a shoulder injury picked up while touring with Great Britain at the end of 2019)


....and then tore his groin. It was listed as a strain, but he took ages to come back.

He has missed almost 1.5 seasons from the last 2.5.