Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[earl]

So if we get Thompson for next year, were is Tamou playing? Reggies? Lol

Who cares. Pick the best team. We don't owe him a spot in the team.

Personally he doesn't make my top team.

 

[Needaname]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Weak? It doesn't exist mate....
This club hasn't bought a first grade centre to the club since Paul Whatuira in 2004.. (No that is NOT a joke)
It seems like we forget the position exists.

We also need another starting backrower, We have plenty of back ups - But we need a top tier back rower.

And for gods sake - BUY A 'KEN CENTRE

Tim Simona was a good centre.
But yeah, this has been a obvious concern for years.

I really hope it is addressed before season 2022 kick off.

All the talk from Madge leads me to believe he really likes Talau and he's in the plans going forward which doesn't fill me with much optimism...

Simona could have been the Games best winger... All his highlights are from Wing Play. He played OK at centre - But would be lucky to hold that position in any other club at that time. Fantastic Winger - OK at centre when needed.
To my point though, Tim came through 20's - We haven't bought a quality centre to the club since 04...
And haven't really developed any either..

Chris Lawrence says hello.

Also, Dean Collis looked absolutely amazing for one season, then he fell off the wagon for some reason.

Did you see the bit where I said "Bought a quality centre to the club"
Lawrence was developed - Played various positions (including wing and lock) before his 18 month stint at centre that fuelled the rest of his career...
Keeping in mind you could hardly consider CL a first grade centre for the last 10 years.

Tell him I said hello back....

I see where you also said "And haven't really developed any either.."

Rowdy says Hi again.

Sorry Russell the professional Negator...
- I just don't consider a guy that was below average with every excuse from "He's still young - to He Hurt his leg" for all but about 18-24 months of his 15yr Career "Developed"

I mean like real players, at real clubs - Developed over a couple years and then played to a first grade level for most of the rest of their career...

If Rowdy still has his hand up - Well, that is exactly my point.

ps: That's 1 player you've argued (Not well I might add) out of the 170 odd we've introduced to the team since.

Yes - thank god someone sees Chris Lawrence the way I did. I use it to describe some of my work colleagues.
Great people, but they’re not worth their pay packet.
I call it the Chris Lawrence Theory. That guy was so overrated. Don’t take this as he is not a nice guy. I’m sure he is. Who wouldn’t like a guy with two first names for their name. That’s instant trust right there.

Don’t get me started but as I have alluded to before, I’ve been kicked off this forum for making the same comments about Lawrence and having an opinion.

Queue the account deletion in T minus 5 minutes.

Self-induced persecution complex aside, in my opinion, Lawrence was a world class centre prior to his hip injury. Making the Australian side and NSW squad was testament to that.

So, to say he was 'so overrated' , which is a tier above simply just 'overrated', is categorically false.

But that's the beauty of opinions, eh.

Yes but after the hip injury he was busted and we were paying good money for him. And he was rubbish.
Thanks Mrs Lawrence.

Ahh, why don’t you see what year Lawrence played for Australia.

“At the start of 2011, Lawrence signed a contract to remain with Wests Tigers until the end of 2015. He started the season with four tries from the first three matches, but then suffered a dislocated hip that kept him sidelined for over three months. Lawrence said, "I asked the nurses (after I regained consciousness) if (the hip) went in alright. They said, 'No, it wasn’t easy. It took five or six people to get it back in.' So that was probably something I didn’t want to hear; about the positions and them trying to yank my leg back in." A further injury to his hamstring saw Lawrence play in just nine games for the season, but he was still selected in Australia's Four Nations squad, and played in every game of the series.”

In my opinion Lawrence returning to the field at the end of 2011 was a big reason for the run of 9 wins and repeat finals appearance.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

So if we get Thompson for next year, were is Tamou playing? Reggies? Lol

Who cares. Pick the best team. We don't owe him a spot in the team.

Personally he doesn't make my top team.

Agree with you mate. Think the game has passed Tamou.

 

[Red Rugby]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Weak? It doesn't exist mate....
This club hasn't bought a first grade centre to the club since Paul Whatuira in 2004.. (No that is NOT a joke)
It seems like we forget the position exists.

We also need another starting backrower, We have plenty of back ups - But we need a top tier back rower.

And for gods sake - BUY A 'KEN CENTRE

Tim Simona was a good centre.
But yeah, this has been a obvious concern for years.

I really hope it is addressed before season 2022 kick off.

All the talk from Madge leads me to believe he really likes Talau and he's in the plans going forward which doesn't fill me with much optimism...

Simona could have been the Games best winger... All his highlights are from Wing Play. He played OK at centre - But would be lucky to hold that position in any other club at that time. Fantastic Winger - OK at centre when needed.
To my point though, Tim came through 20's - We haven't bought a quality centre to the club since 04...
And haven't really developed any either..

Chris Lawrence says hello.

Also, Dean Collis looked absolutely amazing for one season, then he fell off the wagon for some reason.

Did you see the bit where I said "Bought a quality centre to the club"
Lawrence was developed - Played various positions (including wing and lock) before his 18 month stint at centre that fuelled the rest of his career...
Keeping in mind you could hardly consider CL a first grade centre for the last 10 years.

Tell him I said hello back....

I see where you also said "And haven't really developed any either.."

Rowdy says Hi again.

Sorry Russell the professional Negator...
- I just don't consider a guy that was below average with every excuse from "He's still young - to He Hurt his leg" for all but about 18-24 months of his 15yr Career "Developed"

I mean like real players, at real clubs - Developed over a couple years and then played to a first grade level for most of the rest of their career...

If Rowdy still has his hand up - Well, that is exactly my point.

ps: That's 1 player you've argued (Not well I might add) out of the 170 odd we've introduced to the team since.

Yes - thank god someone sees Chris Lawrence the way I did. I use it to describe some of my work colleagues.
Great people, but they’re not worth their pay packet.
I call it the Chris Lawrence Theory. That guy was so overrated. Don’t take this as he is not a nice guy. I’m sure he is. Who wouldn’t like a guy with two first names for their name. That’s instant trust right there.

Don’t get me started but as I have alluded to before, I’ve been kicked off this forum for making the same comments about Lawrence and having an opinion.

Queue the account deletion in T minus 5 minutes.

Self-induced persecution complex aside, in my opinion, Lawrence was a world class centre prior to his hip injury. Making the Australian side and NSW squad was testament to that.

So, to say he was 'so overrated' , which is a tier above simply just 'overrated', is categorically false.

But that's the beauty of opinions, eh.

Yes but after the hip injury he was busted and we were paying good money for him. And he was rubbish.
Thanks Mrs Lawrence.

Happy to be proven incorrect, but didn't Chris Lawrence restructure his deal to help the Tigers out of another salary cap fiasco? I thought he added up an extra year for virtually no money which balanced the books?

In terms of his playing value (after the hip injury and the later facial injury) I thought he was a very, very serviceable second rower who never let the side down!

 

[jadtiger]



If you have watched Gildart play i doubt he would be Englands best centre,if he was Australian he wouldnt be in the top 20 centres here.He is another Hardaker

Funny that Cleary was trying to bring him over in 2018 before he decided to resign long term with Wigan…..

Honestly he is not very good from what i have seen including from when he was linked to us years ago.I hope i am wrong and he kills it for us.i will be delighted to be proven wrong

 

[WswWt]

Thompson will end up at the chooks.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I just listened to coaches insider. Didn't deny interest in Thompson at all. Make it happen WT.

“We seemed to get linked to most players which is nice,” he said.

“A player of that calibre is someone we’d look at, but where that will find itself, time will tell. We’re focused on what we’re doing right now.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]


 

[getagrip]


I don't need glasses (yet)

 

[jadtiger]


I don't need glasses (yet)

Lucky you.I need glasses for computer work and other glasses for reading.At least i dont need glasses for walking and driving.
Getting older is not a pleasurable experience

 

[the_third]


I don't need glasses (yet)


Lucky you.I need glasses for computer work and other glasses for reading.At least i dont need glasses for walking and driving.
Getting older is not a pleasurable experience

My phone is now about 3/4 an arms length away

 

[851]

In 2021 Wests Tigers are the youngest in the NRL, in 2019 we were the oldest.

Wow! really I think that says it all. Our brightest prospects are definitely our youngest, and it is why I am optimistic even if we don't land many big signings. They may not have been marquee signings, but I honestly believe Daine Laurie, Stefano Uto etc will be marquee players.

Hopefully, in a few years, the top marquee guys will be banging on our door to let them play here?

Why is Madge leaving, that would be our only hope, he reckons he had players ringing all the time wanting to play for him, give me a break, I am not that stupid


So you think he is lying (big claim), how do you know it's not right?

I actually can't recall him saying this? Where did you hear it?

He said it on a coaching insider one week. It definitely was said.

So, how do you know it's not right?

The lack of signings?

Maybe they weren't the right signings in the clubs opinion?

Or maybe noone called?

I know which one I believe, a stack of players ring him, and no one is better than our current mob, fair dinkum, I know why this guy is a Madge supporter now.

851 myself and others understand your frustration atm and your hate for Madge,however I can only think that your untold hate for him has blinded what he is trying to achieve with some very,very talented young players..they have to learn some where and sometime and this year and next is that time...Im sorry we havent won every game contested or paid huge overs that Ivan did to achieve absolutely nothing and dump us..Maybe the club has learnt and with Madge looking after the juniors untill Sheens gets here we will finally end this decade of rabble and finally become the great club we should be...at least give credit where its due...its always easy to blame the coach everytime things go wrong..
I was even reading today how Fittler said he loves the Campbelltown area and the Tigers would be a GREAT TEAM to coach...at least he is an origin coach and has some respect for our club,moreso than some of the so called supporters...

I don't hate Madge, I was sceptical of his signing after the souths players turned on him, I actually wanted him to succeed, but he hasn't, the team looks worse now than when he arrived 3 years ago, no player seems to know what they are doing.
And for the comment, I know he made it because I saw the interview, "that he has players ringing him all the time", I can't for one minute believe that.
We have a stack of holes in our roster, if all these players rang him, surely a few would be better than what we have and we would have signed them.
Madge has tried and failed to sign numerous quality players, it seems a line to try keep the media away from the real issue.
If the team was showing signs of improvement I might buy in, but good players or even average players from other teams are not buying in on him, the players he has are not buying in either, the 2 Tommy tribute games were disgusting.
The amount of times our team does not turn up is telling me the players are not buying in either, and I would argue if we had a different coach we would have landed some of those good players we tried to sign

 

[851]

In 2021 Wests Tigers are the youngest in the NRL, in 2019 we were the oldest.

Wow! really I think that says it all. Our brightest prospects are definitely our youngest, and it is why I am optimistic even if we don't land many big signings. They may not have been marquee signings, but I honestly believe Daine Laurie, Stefano Uto etc will be marquee players.

Hopefully, in a few years, the top marquee guys will be banging on our door to let them play here?

Why is Madge leaving, that would be our only hope, he reckons he had players ringing all the time wanting to play for him, give me a break, I am not that stupid


So you think he is lying (big claim), how do you know it's not right?

I actually can't recall him saying this? Where did you hear it?

He said it on a coaching insider one week. It definitely was said.

I was watching it, nearly fell off my chair laughing, the bloke is in denial

Hold on, you have called him a liar, where is your proof?

The lack of signings?

The claim is: "he reckons he had players ringing all the time wanting to play for him" and you and 851 are refuting it, you seem to have nothing but your opinions it's not true, you can not know what people are ringing the man and why they are ringing him?

As for signings, I didn't think we could sign contracted players and besides that, our roster is full atm and we can't sign any more? It would help if you could mention who the players were?

How is our roster full?

Also, I don’t believe Madge was telling the truth when he says he has calls all the time. If I had a dollar for every time an NRL coach lied I’d have enough money to buy WT.

Bang on, you and I have no proof so we lied, yet Madge, where is his proof of these phone calls, but he never lied, coaches don't tell lies apparently, hell Wayne lies near daily

 

[diedpretty]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Weak? It doesn't exist mate....
This club hasn't bought a first grade centre to the club since Paul Whatuira in 2004.. (No that is NOT a joke)
It seems like we forget the position exists.

We also need another starting backrower, We have plenty of back ups - But we need a top tier back rower.

And for gods sake - BUY A 'KEN CENTRE

Tim Simona was a good centre.
But yeah, this has been a obvious concern for years.

I really hope it is addressed before season 2022 kick off.

All the talk from Madge leads me to believe he really likes Talau and he's in the plans going forward which doesn't fill me with much optimism...

Simona could have been the Games best winger... All his highlights are from Wing Play. He played OK at centre - But would be lucky to hold that position in any other club at that time. Fantastic Winger - OK at centre when needed.
To my point though, Tim came through 20's - We haven't bought a quality centre to the club since 04...
And haven't really developed any either..

Chris Lawrence says hello.

Also, Dean Collis looked absolutely amazing for one season, then he fell off the wagon for some reason.

Did you see the bit where I said "Bought a quality centre to the club"
Lawrence was developed - Played various positions (including wing and lock) before his 18 month stint at centre that fuelled the rest of his career...
Keeping in mind you could hardly consider CL a first grade centre for the last 10 years.

Tell him I said hello back....

I see where you also said "And haven't really developed any either.."

Rowdy says Hi again.

Sorry Russell the professional Negator...
- I just don't consider a guy that was below average with every excuse from "He's still young - to He Hurt his leg" for all but about 18-24 months of his 15yr Career "Developed"

I mean like real players, at real clubs - Developed over a couple years and then played to a first grade level for most of the rest of their career...

If Rowdy still has his hand up - Well, that is exactly my point.

ps: That's 1 player you've argued (Not well I might add) out of the 170 odd we've introduced to the team since.

Yes - thank god someone sees Chris Lawrence the way I did. I use it to describe some of my work colleagues.
Great people, but they’re not worth their pay packet.
I call it the Chris Lawrence Theory. That guy was so overrated. Don’t take this as he is not a nice guy. I’m sure he is. Who wouldn’t like a guy with two first names for their name. That’s instant trust right there.

Don’t get me started but as I have alluded to before, I’ve been kicked off this forum for making the same comments about Lawrence and having an opinion.

Queue the account deletion in T minus 5 minutes.

There's plenty of other mate...
You're not alone.

Chris is a lovely fella, and great clubman - But it's no co-incidence when an inform Benji Marshall stopped Stepping, Jigging and Running around in Circles to confuse defensive lines - CL was also barely sighted in good form again...

You really don't have a clue.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Need a strike centre and another edge back rower.

We have some options. Move AD to the centres. Gildart/Talau/Roberts may do the job in the centres.

Hopefully Blore and Tuilagi come good.

I agree with you though that our edges are ordinary and need a massive improvement. It's just not that bad. I'd love to get a quality player like Thompson.

Centre is definitely weak for us.
The mentioned players are not in anyway strike players.

Weak? It doesn't exist mate....
This club hasn't bought a first grade centre to the club since Paul Whatuira in 2004.. (No that is NOT a joke)
It seems like we forget the position exists.

We also need another starting backrower, We have plenty of back ups - But we need a top tier back rower.

And for gods sake - BUY A 'KEN CENTRE

Tim Simona was a good centre.
But yeah, this has been a obvious concern for years.

I really hope it is addressed before season 2022 kick off.

All the talk from Madge leads me to believe he really likes Talau and he's in the plans going forward which doesn't fill me with much optimism...

Simona could have been the Games best winger... All his highlights are from Wing Play. He played OK at centre - But would be lucky to hold that position in any other club at that time. Fantastic Winger - OK at centre when needed.
To my point though, Tim came through 20's - We haven't bought a quality centre to the club since 04...
And haven't really developed any either..

Chris Lawrence says hello.

Also, Dean Collis looked absolutely amazing for one season, then he fell off the wagon for some reason.

Did you see the bit where I said "Bought a quality centre to the club"
Lawrence was developed - Played various positions (including wing and lock) before his 18 month stint at centre that fuelled the rest of his career...
Keeping in mind you could hardly consider CL a first grade centre for the last 10 years.

Tell him I said hello back....

I see where you also said "And haven't really developed any either.."

Rowdy says Hi again.

Sorry Russell the professional Negator...
- I just don't consider a guy that was below average with every excuse from "He's still young - to He Hurt his leg" for all but about 18-24 months of his 15yr Career "Developed"

I mean like real players, at real clubs - Developed over a couple years and then played to a first grade level for most of the rest of their career...

If Rowdy still has his hand up - Well, that is exactly my point.

ps: That's 1 player you've argued (Not well I might add) out of the 170 odd we've introduced to the team since.

Yes - thank god someone sees Chris Lawrence the way I did. I use it to describe some of my work colleagues.
Great people, but they’re not worth their pay packet.
I call it the Chris Lawrence Theory. That guy was so overrated. Don’t take this as he is not a nice guy. I’m sure he is. Who wouldn’t like a guy with two first names for their name. That’s instant trust right there.

Don’t get me started but as I have alluded to before, I’ve been kicked off this forum for making the same comments about Lawrence and having an opinion.

Queue the account deletion in T minus 5 minutes.

Self-induced persecution complex aside, in my opinion, Lawrence was a world class centre prior to his hip injury. Making the Australian side and NSW squad was testament to that.

So, to say he was 'so overrated' , which is a tier above simply just 'overrated', is categorically false.

But that's the beauty of opinions, eh.

Yes but after the hip injury he was busted and we were paying good money for him. And he was rubbish.
Thanks Mrs Lawrence.

There's still a couple of minutes left - change your name to I was back and you might be on the money with your thoughts for once 🙂


I’m going to call myself Imbackagain

Thoughts?

No thoughts, but where were you back from initially?

 

[Merlot]


I don't need glasses (yet)


Lucky you.I need glasses for computer work and other glasses for reading.At least i dont need glasses for walking and driving.
Getting older is not a pleasurable experience

My phone is now about 3/4 an arms length away

my house is spotless when the reading glasses arent on

 

[balmain boy]

Rumours on Twitter for a swap deal with Luke Thompson / Zane Musgrove with dogs.

The ramblings of a crazy tigers fan who freely admits he just makes stuff up. TigerEd i think he goes by

 

[balmain boy]

Maumalo and Nofo, aren't the fastest but they definitely aren't the slowest.

Nofo, we only see run sideways usually though.

Both are tidy finishers and are capable of doing their job...

Nofo needs to get back to his best. The lengthy contract has appeared to kill his motivation and desire.

With some better centres inside them, they could both take their game to the next level.

Actually they are the slowest wing combo in the league. By a long, long way. The fact we also have slow centres only exasperates this. We can't compete with the pace and skill of the top sides, we can't exploit opportunities.

Both can play a role as a battering ram. Nof needs to be dropped next season to give him a wake up call, he's been bludging all season.

100% agree that we need pace. it's ridiculous that it hasn't been addressed after years of not having it.

BUT I will say this. the best teams in the league make the most yardage with their back 5. Maumalo and Nofo (when he runs straight) along with Laurie lay an excellent platform to start off our sets. no doubt we need some pace in the backline, but statistics do show that if you have a back 5 that can make yards, chances are you'll be higher up the ladder.

Slow players aren't the only ones who can make yardage though. It's possible to have pace to generate power and make metres too.

 

[Milky]

Don’t sign that bulldogs prop, I forget his name.

He is contracted til end of 2023 as I understand and wants to secure his long term future? reeks of ‘I want to get my pay sorted and slack off’

See, he is contracted until end of 22.
He has an option for 23.
Now if the talk of moving him on is correct and the dogs want to move him on first. Unless he decides to activate his PO for 23 before agreeing to a deal with another club, another club could be taking on the full deal from 23 onwards.
Depends entirely on how cooperative the Dogs are with the situation.
Can a club refuse a PO payment if they move them on beforehand? I know I read with Brisbane and Lodge they activated it to allow them to spread out the funds over more time.

Kahu left the broncs and activated his PO to go back so I don’t think they can refuse it

 

[Needaname]

Don’t sign that bulldogs prop, I forget his name.

He is contracted til end of 2023 as I understand and wants to secure his long term future? reeks of ‘I want to get my pay sorted and slack off’

See, he is contracted until end of 22.
He has an option for 23.
Now if the talk of moving him on is correct and the dogs want to move him on first. Unless he decides to activate his PO for 23 before agreeing to a deal with another club, another club could be taking on the full deal from 23 onwards.
Depends entirely on how cooperative the Dogs are with the situation.
Can a club refuse a PO payment if they move them on beforehand? I know I read with Brisbane and Lodge they activated it to allow them to spread out the funds over more time.

Kahu left the broncs and activated his PO to go back so I don’t think they can refuse it

Thanks for that!