Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[cochise]

Disappointing to see a number of our best performers in the undefeated flegg side are not signed up.

Ogden, Hill, Pole not signed for next year (yet) and we’ve already lost Tuifua.

Pole has been signed for next year, Ogden’s manager met with Hartigan last week and Hill is highly rated by the club

From what I've heard Hill has literally been offered a bag of peanuts to stay at the club next season and there are other clubs now circling as they see an opportunity.

I would love to see Hill stay - the kid is talented and we lack serious depth on the wing, and he's a genuine finisher. I'll be filthy if the club don't retain and the imbecile in charge of retaining juniors should be out the door.

Agreed but wouldn't that be Hartigan?

Not sure - not impressed with him either way so far.

Hartigan’s an absolute myth.

This is what everyone that I know at the club tells me. I thought he was a good operator.

Really, what do they say?

Smart guy out of his depth. Hardly a vote of confidence bringing in sheens.

I remember Gould saying something a little while back when we signed Sheens. It was in code, but talked about needing footy experience in admin. At the time I thought he was talking about Hartigan.

Its funny because Hartigan gets a great wrap by those in the know on the forum like @cochise

The TPJ thing where we we in, then out, gave me the impression there isn't the one man making the big decisions.

Hartigan is crucial for this club moving forward, he knows what he is talking about and has the guts to back it up. I have more faith in him than anyone else employed in the club and that includes Tim Sheens.

 

[frullens]

Disappointing to see a number of our best performers in the undefeated flegg side are not signed up.

Ogden, Hill, Pole not signed for next year (yet) and we’ve already lost Tuifua.

Pole has been signed for next year, Ogden’s manager met with Hartigan last week and Hill is highly rated by the club

From what I've heard Hill has literally been offered a bag of peanuts to stay at the club next season and there are other clubs now circling as they see an opportunity.

I would love to see Hill stay - the kid is talented and we lack serious depth on the wing, and he's a genuine finisher. I'll be filthy if the club don't retain and the imbecile in charge of retaining juniors should be out the door.

Agreed but wouldn't that be Hartigan?

Not sure - not impressed with him either way so far.

Hartigan’s an absolute myth.

This is what everyone that I know at the club tells me. I thought he was a good operator.

Really, what do they say?

Smart guy out of his depth. Hardly a vote of confidence bringing in sheens.

I remember Gould saying something a little while back when we signed Sheens. It was in code, but talked about needing footy experience in admin. At the time I thought he was talking about Hartigan.

Its funny because Hartigan gets a great wrap by those in the know on the forum like @cochise

The TPJ thing where we we in, then out, gave me the impression there isn't the one man making the big decisions.

Hartigan is crucial for this club moving forward, he knows what he is talking about and has the guts to back it up. I have more faith in him than anyone else employed in the club and that includes Tim Sheens.

Thanks @cochise - do you think he has the authority and support at WT?

Feels like he's been overcalled a few times on the big signings

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

 

[Demps]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

Close mates with Laurie and disgraced former nsw cup Tiger Fitzgibbon.

 

[cochise]

Disappointing to see a number of our best performers in the undefeated flegg side are not signed up.

Ogden, Hill, Pole not signed for next year (yet) and we’ve already lost Tuifua.

Pole has been signed for next year, Ogden’s manager met with Hartigan last week and Hill is highly rated by the club

From what I've heard Hill has literally been offered a bag of peanuts to stay at the club next season and there are other clubs now circling as they see an opportunity.

I would love to see Hill stay - the kid is talented and we lack serious depth on the wing, and he's a genuine finisher. I'll be filthy if the club don't retain and the imbecile in charge of retaining juniors should be out the door.

Agreed but wouldn't that be Hartigan?

Not sure - not impressed with him either way so far.

Hartigan’s an absolute myth.

This is what everyone that I know at the club tells me. I thought he was a good operator.

Really, what do they say?

Smart guy out of his depth. Hardly a vote of confidence bringing in sheens.

I remember Gould saying something a little while back when we signed Sheens. It was in code, but talked about needing footy experience in admin. At the time I thought he was talking about Hartigan.

Its funny because Hartigan gets a great wrap by those in the know on the forum like @cochise

The TPJ thing where we we in, then out, gave me the impression there isn't the one man making the big decisions.

Hartigan is crucial for this club moving forward, he knows what he is talking about and has the guts to back it up. I have more faith in him than anyone else employed in the club and that includes Tim Sheens.

Thanks @cochise - do you think he has the authority and support at WT?

Feels like he's been overcalled a few times on the big signings

There have been a couple of things we have done that haven't felt like Hartigan decisions based off conversations I have had.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

Close mates with Laurie and disgraced former nsw cup Tiger Fitzgibbon.

Any chance of him coming to WTs? He's 6ft 1.

 

[Lee's fedora]

So whose the problem boardroom wise if madge amd hartigans hands are tied with decisions?

 

[Demps]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

Close mates with Laurie and disgraced former nsw cup Tiger Fitzgibbon.

Any chance of him coming to WTs? He's 6ft 1.

Daresay the dragons won't wanna lose him.

Lot of Addo Carr to him.

Maybe we can trade em Nofo?
??

 

[Muffstar]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

Close mates with Laurie and disgraced former nsw cup Tiger Fitzgibbon.

Any chance of him coming to WTs? He's 6ft 1.

Daresay the dragons won't wanna lose him.

Lot of Addo Carr to him.

Maybe we can trade em Nofo?
??

Hands like Talau. Happy to keep Nofo over Sloan.

 

[Demps]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

Close mates with Laurie and disgraced former nsw cup Tiger Fitzgibbon.

Any chance of him coming to WTs? He's 6ft 1.

Daresay the dragons won't wanna lose him.

Lot of Addo Carr to him.

Maybe we can trade em Nofo?
??

Hands like Talau. Happy to keep Nofo over Sloan.

Hell get better

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I think let Sheens and Madge work on signings with the help of Hartigan and leave Lee H out of it to start with and Pascoe
We need to try something different because at present Lee Pascoe Hartigan and Madge can't catch a cold

 

[Needaname]

Disappointing to see a number of our best performers in the undefeated flegg side are not signed up.

Ogden, Hill, Pole not signed for next year (yet) and we’ve already lost Tuifua.

Pole has been signed for next year, Ogden’s manager met with Hartigan last week and Hill is highly rated by the club

From what I've heard Hill has literally been offered a bag of peanuts to stay at the club next season and there are other clubs now circling as they see an opportunity.

I would love to see Hill stay - the kid is talented and we lack serious depth on the wing, and he's a genuine finisher. I'll be filthy if the club don't retain and the imbecile in charge of retaining juniors should be out the door.

Issue is we've wasted NRL contracts on players like Hoffman and Kei for next season, so now we don't have a lot of room with these 'depth' players already existing in the squad.

The juniors in our Flegg side are far superior to the ones that have been on development contracts in recent years.

Next season Ogden, Hill and Dillon should all be on NRL contracts or at the very least development contracts with NRL the following seasons. They're the sort of players that deserve development+NRL contract. Hoffman and Kei did not. Neither player has ever shown anything to suggest they can make it in the nrl

Ahh the old development player conundrum.
We’d just about be the only club dumb enough to promise first grade as an incentive for a player to sign a Dev contract.
Kelma Tulagi aside. Who we would of had to be guarantee a first grade opportunity just to get him over the line considering his age / experience.
But Hoffman? Wasn’t Hoffman signed on a two year dev / 1 year first grade deal?
Kei I guess was recruited into our Flegg side and has progressed to a dev contract through hard work. Its hard not to agree that that sort of player should be rewarded with a dev contract.
I find it interesting that all clubs don’t use all their dev spots.
Either way I’d be curious to know who is left on a development contract signed for next year?

 

[Needaname]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

He is a nice mover can you believe he is currently not part of the Dragons 1sts squad until 2024…
Will be due an updgrade over the off-season.
Amone included

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

He is a nice mover can you believe he is currently not part of the Dragons 1sts squad until 2024…
Will be due an updgrade over the off-season.
Amone included

We could give him an upgrade. He's a talented player.

 

[cochise]

I think let Sheens and Madge work on signings with the help of Hartigan and leave Lee H out of it to start with and Pascoe
We need to try something different because at present Lee Pascoe Hartigan and Madge can't catch a cold

To be honest, I would be educating Farah on the direction of the club and using him in negotiations with players. He has a passion and belief in the club that is unmatched. I would like to see him selling our vision to potential recruits using that passion and belief.

I think Sheens could be a good mentor for Hartigan if it is structure in the right way.

 

[Needaname]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

He is a nice mover can you believe he is currently not part of the Dragons 1sts squad until 2024…
Will be due an updgrade over the off-season.
Amone included

We could give him an upgrade. He's a talented player.

Prefer Laurie myself but he wouldn’t look out of place as a utility back.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Dragons' fullback, Tyrell Sloan is a nice mover and looks a great prospect. The Illawarra consistently produces top juniors.

He is a nice mover can you believe he is currently not part of the Dragons 1sts squad until 2024…
Will be due an updgrade over the off-season.
Amone included

We could give him an upgrade. He's a talented player.

Prefer Laurie myself but he wouldn’t look out of place as a utility back.

He's a 5/8 as well.

 

[Needaname]

I think let Sheens and Madge work on signings with the help of Hartigan and leave Lee H out of it to start with and Pascoe
We need to try something different because at present Lee Pascoe Hartigan and Madge can't catch a cold

To be honest, I would be educating Farah on the direction of the club and using him in negotiations with players. He has a passion and belief in the club that is unmatched. I would like to see him selling our vision to potential recruits using that passion and belief.

I think Sheens could be a good mentor for Hartigan if it is structure in the right way.

Do you think Farah supports the current vision with Madge as coach? From the outside it looks like he has a lot of respect for him.

 

[pedrolaurie]

This must be the most depressing thread on the forum

Agree mate. There are some serious debbie downers getting around on here.

 

[pedrolaurie]

Lets go out and sign Marion Seve from the Storm

We had him a few years ago.

I know but if we're going to sign players they should try to be from decent clubs.

He's nothing special

Well then I'm glad you're not in charge

Cmon mate... how many games have you seen him play?

Seen enough to show that there is ability there. I mean seriously, you can't wait until these guys are unearthed or you'll never lure them away from the top clubs without paying overs. Players aren't lining up to sign here. Just because we've taken risks on old flops and lost doesn't mean we have to stop taking risks on young players. People on here crap on about signing deadshits like Vaughan and Paulo who seriously offer nothing that this club doesn't already have. What we don't have is a centre built like a brick shithouse.


Um Vaughn and Paulo would walk straight into our starting front row. Aside from Stefano who is better?

Comparing them to Seve is really laughable. Our forward pack sucks and gets dominated against every week.

Re Seve he doesn’t offer us anything different he just adds to our current reserve grade centers. He is solid but struggles in defense, often gets pushed off or caught out. He is also 26 and played 2 games & filled in for the storm this year. Goes against our youth policy as well. If he is the one we think can solve our center issues we are beyond series trouble.

Disgree with the forwards comment, the forwards we have are solid, they may have been dominated once by the storm but that was more to do with the speed of the Storms ruck and less to do with the collision. Parramatta dominated us with 2nd phase play and Souths dominated us with their speed, we matched Penriths pack twice and mostly held our own on both occasions. We dominated the Dragons pack twice, a pack Vaughn is a part of.

I never said Seve was a world beater, the world beaters are all signed and sealed up. But he adds some size to our centres depth whether he's our best option or not.

Geez solid… that worked well for us this year…..
our forwards have been dominated against, they struggle to make 100mtrs+ a game. Our post contact meters in the forwards are shocking & well the defense is terrible as they can’t drive back or man up which allows 2nd phase play & width for teams to attack our flanks. Our backrowers cram infield to be the 2nd & 3rd man in often due to the middles not holding there own and as such often creates a good 20-30mtrs and overlaps for our centers/wingers to deal with

Our best pack is 2-3 quality starting forwards short, 100% if we buy no one and keep the existing bunch they never come close to finals ever. This same pack finished at best 2 games out of the top 8, at worst 3 games.

Each to their own, some people are blinded by us being average and wanting us to stay that way.

This is a dreadfully inaccurate analysis of our our forwards this season, the scenario youre describing is just the modern game when one team gets on the back foot. Often we are on the back foot but respond no different to most other teams. Its as if you watched one game all year, the flogging from Melbourne.
Your comments are just hysterical.