Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@cultured_bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468296) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468294) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468293) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467739) said:
The biggest recruitment and retention failure we have had revolves around a lack of on field leadership.

We lost Benji Marshall, Chris Lawrence and Elijah Taylor in quick succession.

Other players we had looked at for leadership like Packer, Mautalino, Musgrave,McQueen, Thompson and a couple of others did not work out for one reason or another.

These players were never replaced. All we got was a washed up James Tahmou.

It has been an epic failure to understand what we had lost and do very little to replace it. Imo its the main reason we are where we are right now. A laughing stock!

Regardless of who coaches this mess not much will change without some on field leadership. For that reason we need at least 3 good quality on field leaders.More if we can release some contracted players who arent shaping up.

Hastings and Doueihi are what i would call on field leaders but we need to add to that.

**Tariqu Sims is a must**.

Luke Thompson and John Bateman would also help if we could fluke one of them.

The cupboard is pretty bare, we have left it too late to identify the problem.

Hopefully a couple more senior players are set to be shopped around, we sure as hell need them.

Have you seen how he plays for the Dragqueens? He plays well in SOO but that’s it. He would be horrible here, Packer 2.0

Luciano 2.0

Luch is better than him. Better defensively and more run metres. Also has an offload.

Let me guess tackle efficiency. It doesn’t count for a stat if you just hide from the collision
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468312) said:
We need on field leaders. He qualifies.

We could sign some young back rower but that is not going to change culture.

Agreed...Rorters showing interest..what does that tell you
 
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468286) said:
@tigers97 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468253) said:
I think our best chance for any signings is either signing old heads and unwanted items like tariq sims and Tyrone Peachy or signing super league players

Or to follow the Storm's approach and sign a young quality player. It isn't the brain surgery, and we have done it the last year: Utoikamanu and Laurie!

A sure fire way to lose those two would be to give up on signing some good senior leaders.
 
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468286) said:
@tigers97 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468253) said:
I think our best chance for any signings is either signing old heads and unwanted items like tariq sims and Tyrone Peachy or signing super league players

Or to follow the Storm's approach and sign a young quality player. It isn't the brain surgery, and we have done it the last year: Utoikamanu and Laurie!

I suppose you could add Seyfarth, Blore and Doueihi too.
 
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468322) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468312) said:
We need on field leaders. He qualifies.

We could sign some young back rower but that is not going to change culture.

Agreed...Rorters showing interest..what does that tell you

It tells me we are a chance as he won't go to the Roosters on one of those low ball contracts they offer players like him.
 
People complain about all our bad signings like Packer and Mbye then want a bloke in Tariq Sims who will be 32 before he plays a game for us on a multi year, good money deal

Surely we've learned our lesson. Hard pass! His form for Dragons this year has been average at best.

"On field leaders" is not the way we get out of this hole, those type of signings have never ever worked for us. We need more youth signings and more under the radar guys stuck behind world class players
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468333) said:
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468322) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468312) said:
We need on field leaders. He qualifies.

We could sign some young back rower but that is not going to change culture.

Agreed...Rorters showing interest..what does that tell you

It tells me we are a chance as he won't go to the Roosters on one of those low ball contracts they offer players like him.

More good enough for them but Nah Wests Tigers...
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468336) said:
People complain about all our bad signings like Packer and Mbye then want a bloke in Tariq Sims who will be 32 before he plays a game for us on a multi year, good money deal

Surely we've learned our lesson. Hard pass! His form for Dragons this year has been average at best.

"On field leaders" is not the way we get out of this hole, those type of signings have never ever worked for us. We need more youth signings and more under the radar guys stuck behind world class players

You can’t put everyone over 30 in the same bucket mate. Cam smith was killing it at 36-37. We absolutely rooted the club last time but we just picked the worst blokes (and paid them ridiculously )
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468320) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468296) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468294) said:
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468293) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467739) said:
The biggest recruitment and retention failure we have had revolves around a lack of on field leadership.

We lost Benji Marshall, Chris Lawrence and Elijah Taylor in quick succession.

Other players we had looked at for leadership like Packer, Mautalino, Musgrave,McQueen, Thompson and a couple of others did not work out for one reason or another.

These players were never replaced. All we got was a washed up James Tahmou.

It has been an epic failure to understand what we had lost and do very little to replace it. Imo its the main reason we are where we are right now. A laughing stock!

Regardless of who coaches this mess not much will change without some on field leadership. For that reason we need at least 3 good quality on field leaders.More if we can release some contracted players who arent shaping up.

Hastings and Doueihi are what i would call on field leaders but we need to add to that.

**Tariqu Sims is a must**.

Luke Thompson and John Bateman would also help if we could fluke one of them.

The cupboard is pretty bare, we have left it too late to identify the problem.

Hopefully a couple more senior players are set to be shopped around, we sure as hell need them.

Have you seen how he plays for the Dragqueens? He plays well in SOO but that’s it. He would be horrible here, Packer 2.0

Luciano 2.0

Luch is better than him. Better defensively and more run metres. Also has an offload.

Let me guess tackle efficiency. It doesn’t count for a stat if you just hide from the collision

Makes more tackles and missed less.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468343) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468336) said:
People complain about all our bad signings like Packer and Mbye then want a bloke in Tariq Sims who will be 32 before he plays a game for us on a multi year, good money deal

Surely we've learned our lesson. Hard pass! His form for Dragons this year has been average at best.

"On field leaders" is not the way we get out of this hole, those type of signings have never ever worked for us. We need more youth signings and more under the radar guys stuck behind world class players

You can’t put everyone over 30 in the same bucket mate. Cam smith was killing it at 36-37. We absolutely rooted the club last time but we just picked the worst blokes.

Tariq Sims is already noticeably declining though - there are not many players over 30 I'd be keen on. Would've been happy with Adam Reynolds for example though
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468348) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468343) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468336) said:
People complain about all our bad signings like Packer and Mbye then want a bloke in Tariq Sims who will be 32 before he plays a game for us on a multi year, good money deal

Surely we've learned our lesson. Hard pass! His form for Dragons this year has been average at best.

"On field leaders" is not the way we get out of this hole, those type of signings have never ever worked for us. We need more youth signings and more under the radar guys stuck behind world class players

You can’t put everyone over 30 in the same bucket mate. Cam smith was killing it at 36-37. We absolutely rooted the club last time but we just picked the worst blokes.

Tariq Sims is already noticeably declining though - there are not many players over 30 I'd be keen on. Would've been happy with Adam Reynolds for example though

I’m not super keen either but he’s best available, played origin this year (well) and if you could get him at reasonable freight u ship Garner off to somewhere else.
 
I would rather get sims even if he's declining hes a known leader he knows what it takes and sets an example for the young boys imagine what that will do for blore Luciano seyfarth kelma Stefano spoke about finucane sims is another finucane bloke
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468356) said:
I would rather get sims even if he's declining hes a known leader he knows what it takes and sets an example for the young boys imagine what that will do for blore Luciano seyfarth kelma Stefano spoke about finucane sims is another finucane bloke

I feel like Sims is not as durable as Finucane but he gets up and puts a bit of fear in opposition halves which just didn’t happen this year.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468362) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468356) said:
I would rather get sims even if he's declining hes a known leader he knows what it takes and sets an example for the young boys imagine what that will do for blore Luciano seyfarth kelma Stefano spoke about finucane sims is another finucane bloke

I feel like Sims is not as durable as Finucane but he gets up and puts a bit of fear in opposition halves which just didn’t happen this year.

He's a bit crazy too, we need a bit of that.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468366) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468362) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468356) said:
I would rather get sims even if he's declining hes a known leader he knows what it takes and sets an example for the young boys imagine what that will do for blore Luciano seyfarth kelma Stefano spoke about finucane sims is another finucane bloke

I feel like Sims is not as durable as Finucane but he gets up and puts a bit of fear in opposition halves which just didn’t happen this year.

He's a bit crazy too, we need a bit of that.

Yet we’re sacking Woogie
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468367) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468366) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468362) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468356) said:
I would rather get sims even if he's declining hes a known leader he knows what it takes and sets an example for the young boys imagine what that will do for blore Luciano seyfarth kelma Stefano spoke about finucane sims is another finucane bloke

I feel like Sims is not as durable as Finucane but he gets up and puts a bit of fear in opposition halves which just didn’t happen this year.

He's a bit crazy too, we need a bit of that.

Yet we’re sacking Woogie

Who dat?
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468371) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468367) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468366) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468362) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468356) said:
I would rather get sims even if he's declining hes a known leader he knows what it takes and sets an example for the young boys imagine what that will do for blore Luciano seyfarth kelma Stefano spoke about finucane sims is another finucane bloke

I feel like Sims is not as durable as Finucane but he gets up and puts a bit of fear in opposition halves which just didn’t happen this year.

He's a bit crazy too, we need a bit of that.

Yet we’re sacking Woogie

Who dat?

Bloke out of something about Mary, looks like Madge
 

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