Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468389) said:
How bad is the signing of Suli? They said 3 years and 1.5million, right? Why is a club signing him on that money? He's not starting for Manly and neither of those centres are top shelf either. That one really baffles me. Does anyone have some insight into it? Suli is a 1st grader, or at least a fringe first grader, but I never would have thought that he'd get a contract like that.

That’s Lomax money haha
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468412) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

I can stomach Roberts but Cini is one of the worst players I’ve seen

Malone 2.0
 
@wswwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468438) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468412) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

I can stomach Roberts but Cini is one of the worst players I’ve seen

Malone 2.0

No one is bad as that guy.
 
@tiger-ferret said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468421) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468389) said:
How bad is the signing of Suli? They said 3 years and 1.5million, right? Why is a club signing him on that money? He's not starting for Manly and neither of those centres are top shelf either. That one really baffles me. Does anyone have some insight into it? Suli is a 1st grader, or at least a fringe first grader, but I never would have thought that he'd get a contract like that.

It’s not just tigers who take risks on potential…although Manly did seem to get more out of him than the previous clubs.

And it’s still less than what we paid for his first year? Wasn’t it reported we paid $650 for a 0 NRL gamer which was a record?

No.
1.3 for 3 years. ($434,000) a season
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2017-wests-tigers-outlay-record-13-million-deal-for-untried-youngster-moses-suli/news-story/75fb00599a0b9ea0df6a4c8b81993193
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

There's no chance we'll keep Roberts, Cini or Amone on Nrl contracts. They're not up to it, clear as day. No new coach will give them the light of day

If they want to work hard in NSW cup that's fine, bit they're not playing first grade
 
@sully said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467772) said:
@jai_donaldson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467745) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467739) said:
The biggest recruitment and retention failure we have had revolves around a lack of on field leadership.

We lost Benji Marshall, Chris Lawrence and Elijah Taylor in quick succession.

Other players we had looked at for leadership like Packer, Mautalino, Musgrave,McQueen, Thompson and a couple of others did not work out for one reason or another.

These players were never replaced. All we got was a washed up James Tahmou.

It has been an epic failure to understand what we had lost and do very little to replace it. Imo its the main reason we are where we are right now. A laughing stock!

Regardless of who coaches this mess not much will change without some on field leadership. For that reason we need at least 3 good quality on field leaders.More if we can release some contracted players who arent shaping up.

Hastings and Doueihi are what i would call on field leaders but we need to add to that.

Tariqu Sims is a must.

Luke Thompson and John Bateman would also help if we could fluke one of them.

The cupboard is pretty bare, we have left it too late to identify the problem.

Hopefully a couple more senior players are set to be shopped around, we sure as hell need them.

In hindsight Finucane would have been perfect however the 4yrs he wanted is way too many.

I would take his 4 years with heart and leadership against the 4 years of Noffa running sideways and looking at himself in the big screens

Look at Stefano being around finucane for a few weeks and how that developed his game. Finucane was a must for us. The exact leader from a winning culture we needed. I know we got burnt by tamou but you can’t compare the two players.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468450) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

There's no chance we'll keep Roberts, Cini or Amone on Nrl contracts. They're not up to it, clear as day. No new coach will give them the light of day

If they want to work hard in NSW cup that's fine, bit they're not playing first grade

I think Amone has potential with a few more games under his belt . Cini on the other hand gee wiz, I don’t know if it’s nerves or what but no where near first grade standard.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.

Our roster is mostly bog average unfortunately.
Why would you keep Cini waste of spot. Park footballer.
 
@jag said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468453) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.

Our roster is mostly bog average unfortunately.
Why would you keep Cini waste of spot. Park footballer.

Cini just about the worst player in the comp. He is utterly dreadful.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.


Both those players have shown signs they could develop into keepers. imo.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468445) said:
@wswwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468438) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468412) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

I can stomach Roberts but Cini is one of the worst players I’ve seen

Malone 2.0

No one is bad as that guy.

Remember Delouise Hoeter?

Agreed re Cini. Horrendous. That guy needs to look at other career options. Only the Tigers would have him.
 
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468446) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468421) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468389) said:
How bad is the signing of Suli? They said 3 years and 1.5million, right? Why is a club signing him on that money? He's not starting for Manly and neither of those centres are top shelf either. That one really baffles me. Does anyone have some insight into it? Suli is a 1st grader, or at least a fringe first grader, but I never would have thought that he'd get a contract like that.

It’s not just tigers who take risks on potential…although Manly did seem to get more out of him than the previous clubs.

And it’s still less than what we paid for his first year? Wasn’t it reported we paid $650 for a 0 NRL gamer which was a record?

No.
1.3 for 3 years. ($434,000) a season
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2017-wests-tigers-outlay-record-13-million-deal-for-untried-youngster-moses-suli/news-story/75fb00599a0b9ea0df6a4c8b81993193

Thank you for jogging my memory ☺️
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468456) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.


Both those players have shown signs they could develop into keepers. imo.

Waiting for some of our players to make a contribution is like leaving the porch light on for Harold Holt.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468478) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468456) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.


Both those players have shown signs they could develop into keepers. imo.

Waiting for some of our players to make a contribution is like leaving the porch light on for Harold Holt.


It is. The alternative is just as painful.
I hope we stop signing players over the age of 27 unless they’re already at the club.
Does anyone know who is responsible for the club’s contractual obligations with new players? Who is ultimately responsible for signing a new player?
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468399) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468389) said:
How bad is the signing of Suli? They said 3 years and 1.5million, right? Why is a club signing him on that money? He's not starting for Manly and neither of those centres are top shelf either. That one really baffles me. Does anyone have some insight into it? Suli is a 1st grader, or at least a fringe first grader, but I never would have thought that he'd get a contract like that.

I thought it was 1.7m he signed for....
Big money for a inconsistent player but might change when he gets there. On his day he is unstoppable


You are spot on, it is 1.7 mill, lot of money for him.
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468497) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468478) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468456) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.


Both those players have shown signs they could develop into keepers. imo.

Waiting for some of our players to make a contribution is like leaving the porch light on for Harold Holt.


It is. The alternative is just as painful.
I hope we stop signing players over the age of 27 unless they’re already at the club.
Does anyone know who is responsible for the club’s contractual obligations with new players? Who is ultimately responsible for signing a new player?

Worked for Cronulla with Ennis and Lewis. Just because we got burned by bad decisions once doesnt mean we have to quit making good decisions.
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468497) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468478) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468456) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.


Both those players have shown signs they could develop into keepers. imo.

Waiting for some of our players to make a contribution is like leaving the porch light on for Harold Holt.


It is. The alternative is just as painful.
I hope we stop signing players over the age of 27 unless they’re already at the club.
Does anyone know who is responsible for the club’s contractual obligations with new players? Who is ultimately responsible for signing a new player?

As I understand it, Hartigan (after discussion with Madge) put forward a proposal to Pascoe and the board for sign off?
I seem to remember that that was a bit of an issue, because of some lag time in getting the green light?
Pretty sure this was brought about because of Ivan?
 
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