Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jirskyr]

We were leading that game I believe , until he came on with chee kam . That 20 min stint literally lost us the game . Turbo went through his corridor repeatedly , so the other edge tightened , and they went through there instead . I’m not in the business of blaming sole players for losses , but he should not have been playing that game . Whether it was bad management from our medical team or him not being honest with himself about where his body was at , I don’t know , but that was not ok .
Speaking of which , so much was made of Gray and his supposed game changing performance team , but I gotta say , we were better u der the previous high performance team .
He sent us backwards if anything . We looked better for the calendar , but that’s about it .

To be honest I know little about the Tigers performance team past or present however I def felt many games we looked completely gassed at times. Whether it was the 15mins before halftime or the final 15mins of the game we just looked completely underdone fitness wise. Hard to believe when Madge is such a task master with his teams being super fit.

A lot comes down to their mental state too though and mental toughness. With a large number of the team very young they possibly haven't developed the mental toughness to play for 80mins every week. I personally find it tiresome and boring as hell to run drills and laps or go for distance runs however come game day I can easily pump out 80mins without a sub even at 39 so I doubt it's a physical fitness issue.

I feel the team might be better off looking at a sports psychologist of sorts to mentally prepare the players better, to start faster instead of lumbering into matches and only switching on when down by 24. Help the players recognize and distinguish the difference/triggers of mental fatigue over physical fatigue and help them find ways to push through it even under pressure.

There’s every belief Madge is too hard of a taskmaster though and not every player responds well to being sworn at and ran into the dirt every training session so that could very well be part of the reason.

There is the tough way of doing things and then you have the smart way which achieves the same results but with less negative impact. I am hoping the Sheens influence will result in a better approach including tactical nous.

Not this baloney again.

 

[jirskyr]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

 

[cochise]

Could be Thommo.

I would probably entertain a thomo for Musgrove swap.

I agree, I definitely would be down for that. With Thommo what you see is what you get. Mus is largely and unknown and has so far failed to live up to any hype. Seems to have regular long term injury woes which have prevented him hitting any real form. Thommo is quality, hard hitting and hard running.

I would like thommo as a strong experienced first leader.

But don't think the club would swap Musgrove. He only signed a long term deal last year, apparently for understanding what dragons offered him because he wanted to play under madge.

He had that shocker against Parramatta but had a sesson ending injury from that game so assume he was injured affected.

Would like to see Musgrove with a full preseason and a string of games to establish himself. He's strong and aggressive which is what we need

Musgrove is the forgotten man. If he can get past this foot injury for good, he's a mainstay in this pack. He's a fantastic prop.

His last game for us (I think it was vs Manly) was one of the worst performances i've ever seen from an NRL player.

Couple of lazy arm grab attempts up the middle and Tommy/Cherry absolutely carved us up.

Must have been an isolated incident - haven't seen Turbo carve up many ruck defences in 2021...

Musgrove was terrible in that game, we fought hard in the beginning and it turned in 5 mins with 2 of the worst tackle attempts I have ever seen.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

We have no leaders on the field. I personally believe it's that simple.

When the chips are down on field, there is no one there to read the riot act. No one holding others accountable. No one to stand there and say "I'm not taking this **** any longer!"

It's just players looking at each other with that stupid look. It's a mental game every bit as it is physical. Who is going to stand there and say "get your **** sorted lads!" ?

When we sort that..........

agree 100% You add 2-3 real leaders to this team this year and we make the 8..
Everyone keep saying Juniors are our way out of this and yes I agree to an extent but without leaders WHO is leading them and showing them what right or wrong..
Who are they -- IDK but we need to buy some before we lose some of these exciting juniors to other clubs as we lack leadership they crave.

But who out there currently is a leader ? Sims would literally be the only one. We really missed the boat not signing finucane, absolute joke he wasn’t top priority.

IDK to be honest but for me adding a few with true leadership is a must.. Finucane would of been good but I think he wanted 4 years but surely there is others out there.

Yeah agree didn't look too good against Penrith.

Still his presence in training and impact on players would’ve made him worth it. Like what a kick in the guts it was when Stef returned from origin camp and the first player he mentions is finucane

Not for 4 years it wouldn't.

He won’t play 4 years at Cronulla and he certainly won’t sit out still getting paid, I don’t believe he’s that type of person

He was asking for 4 years.

Finucane has played in 6 grand finals and played semi finals every year of his career across bulldogs and storm

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

To me he's the type of player that can change club culture and send us in a new direction. And for that I would of taken the hit of 4 years. If he's not up to it in year 4 he can teach the young players in Reggie's. Would of been huge value for the club

I would have given finucane 4 years without even thinking about it. We are missing leadership and he would have been perfect.

 

[jirskyr]

Could be Thommo.

I would probably entertain a thomo for Musgrove swap.

I agree, I definitely would be down for that. With Thommo what you see is what you get. Mus is largely and unknown and has so far failed to live up to any hype. Seems to have regular long term injury woes which have prevented him hitting any real form. Thommo is quality, hard hitting and hard running.

I would like thommo as a strong experienced first leader.

But don't think the club would swap Musgrove. He only signed a long term deal last year, apparently for understanding what dragons offered him because he wanted to play under madge.

He had that shocker against Parramatta but had a sesson ending injury from that game so assume he was injured affected.

Would like to see Musgrove with a full preseason and a string of games to establish himself. He's strong and aggressive which is what we need

Musgrove is the forgotten man. If he can get past this foot injury for good, he's a mainstay in this pack. He's a fantastic prop.

His last game for us (I think it was vs Manly) was one of the worst performances i've ever seen from an NRL player.

Couple of lazy arm grab attempts up the middle and Tommy/Cherry absolutely carved us up.

Must have been an isolated incident - haven't seen Turbo carve up many ruck defences in 2021...

Musgrove was terrible in that game, we fought hard in the beginning and it turned in 5 mins with 2 of the worst tackle attempts I have ever seen.

No argument he made some bad misses - basically got hooked and I don't think we saw much of him for the rest of the season. I'm just putting that one performance in context, considering people have referenced it several times, of the number of people Tommy Turbo has made look foolish in 2021.

 

[yeahcaz]

I have to give Gus credit where credit is due... He interacts with his fans and says it how it is and shuts down rubbish when needed. (could be a reason the media don't make up stuff about him or his team) . He has been talking about 2 players been signed with fans for the last few days and even advised them 1 will be announced in the morning. Going by his past history I would believe this is the truth.. I don't mind this approach and helps ease fans and gets them excited. Us Tigers fans could do with someone like that now to shut rubbish down and even give us some hope / excitement

Pfft you think if the bulldogs had the same signing dramas as us, he’d be doing that to this extent? Dreaming.

Ours in the current state of the club wouldn’t last a day

 

[cochise]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

The biggest difference for Sefano this year was the work he put in over the off season. He was a little soft last year when playing at Parra and I had doubts about his signing. He returned after the off season in much better physical shape and that was the biggest reason for his improved form and strong finish to the season. I think being 18th man probably gave him a bit of extra confidence though, which allowed him to take advantage of the physical changes he developed over the past 12 months.

 

[innsaneink]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

You don't believe?
So you think stef is
confused, a liar... Maybe he
learnt a bit from someone that's
been there done that

 

[Telltails]

Any success big Stef gets will be from his own individual work and effort. He will definitely identify with those who have the same work ethic, just like those who like to cut corners tend to stay together.

 

[JC99]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I mean he literally said being at origin camp and working with finucane had a massive impact on him and his game suddenly lifted after that. He would've developed either way but it clearly had a big impact on it getting to be part of the NSW squad.

 

[gallagher]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I mean he literally said being at origin camp and working with finucane had a massive impact on him and his game suddenly lifted after that. He would've developed either way but it clearly had a big impact on it getting to be part of the NSW squad.

I'm sure some know all fan club volunteer knows more about Stef than Stef himself hey. I'm with you, Finucane would have been great but we'll get some cheap low risk fatty.

 

[innsaneink]

It even happens with kids, they make rep teams and come back to their clubs better players

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I think Origin camp was the icing on the cake for him. But I also think that stef is a glimpse of what our future could be like with our recruitment and development if we are patient.

 

[cochise]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I mean he literally said being at origin camp and working with finucane had a massive impact on him and his game suddenly lifted after that. He would've developed either way but it clearly had a big impact on it getting to be part of the NSW squad.

I'm sure some know all fan club volunteer knows more about Stef than Stef himself hey. I'm with you, Finucane would have been great but we'll get some cheap low risk fatty.

The biggest contributor to Stef's development was Stef. I think Finucane would have been beneficial for us, but not for 4 years on big money.

 

[tony soprano]

I have to give Gus credit where credit is due... He interacts with his fans and says it how it is and shuts down rubbish when needed. (could be a reason the media don't make up stuff about him or his team) . He has been talking about 2 players been signed with fans for the last few days and even advised them 1 will be announced in the morning. Going by his past history I would believe this is the truth.. I don't mind this approach and helps ease fans and gets them excited. Us Tigers fans could do with someone like that now to shut rubbish down and even give us some hope / excitement

Lol we trolled pascoe so he stopped

 

[gallagher]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I mean he literally said being at origin camp and working with finucane had a massive impact on him and his game suddenly lifted after that. He would've developed either way but it clearly had a big impact on it getting to be part of the NSW squad.

I'm sure some know all fan club volunteer knows more about Stef than Stef himself hey. I'm with you, Finucane would have been great but we'll get some cheap low risk fatty.

The biggest contributor to Stef's development was Stef. I think Finucane would have been beneficial for us, but not for 4 years on big money.

Better than no one, on no money. Low risk cheapies will get us nowhere.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I have to give Gus credit where credit is due... He interacts with his fans and says it how it is and shuts down rubbish when needed. (could be a reason the media don't make up stuff about him or his team) . He has been talking about 2 players been signed with fans for the last few days and even advised them 1 will be announced in the morning. Going by his past history I would believe this is the truth.. I don't mind this approach and helps ease fans and gets them excited. Us Tigers fans could do with someone like that now to shut rubbish down and even give us some hope / excitement

Lol we trolled pascoe so he stopped

Well he was doing those Q&A’s with Ivan when they had a bromance

 

[gallagher]

I have to give Gus credit where credit is due... He interacts with his fans and says it how it is and shuts down rubbish when needed. (could be a reason the media don't make up stuff about him or his team) . He has been talking about 2 players been signed with fans for the last few days and even advised them 1 will be announced in the morning. Going by his past history I would believe this is the truth.. I don't mind this approach and helps ease fans and gets them excited. Us Tigers fans could do with someone like that now to shut rubbish down and even give us some hope / excitement

Lol we trolled pascoe so he stopped

Well he was doing those Q&A’s with Ivan when they had a bromance

Good morning ivan , chuckle chuckle.
Hi Justin, snicker snicker.
Pair of wankers.

 

[cochise]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I mean he literally said being at origin camp and working with finucane had a massive impact on him and his game suddenly lifted after that. He would've developed either way but it clearly had a big impact on it getting to be part of the NSW squad.

I'm sure some know all fan club volunteer knows more about Stef than Stef himself hey. I'm with you, Finucane would have been great but we'll get some cheap low risk fatty.

The biggest contributor to Stef's development was Stef. I think Finucane would have been beneficial for us, but not for 4 years on big money.

Better than no one, on no money. Low risk cheapies will get us nowhere.

Depends, if the big money on Finucane in 4 years time stops us from resigning Stef then it would be an issue. You can't just waste money, just because there is money free now, doesn't mean that we should be overpaying in 4 years time.

 

[gallagher]

Stef credited finucane for his change in form from origin camp. Imagine the impact he could of made across the whole squad.

I don't believe that one bit. Tigers identify Stefano as one of the best prop talents in the game and head-hunt him from Parramatta. He does a Tigers pre-season, gets his Tigers debut, is brought along slowly by Madge, sent back to reggies once or twice, then made starting prop.

But no, he goes to Origin camp for 5 days and that's what takes him to another level, watching Dale Finucane train and do his strapping.

I mean he literally said being at origin camp and working with finucane had a massive impact on him and his game suddenly lifted after that. He would've developed either way but it clearly had a big impact on it getting to be part of the NSW squad.

I'm sure some know all fan club volunteer knows more about Stef than Stef himself hey. I'm with you, Finucane would have been great but we'll get some cheap low risk fatty.

The biggest contributor to Stef's development was Stef. I think Finucane would have been beneficial for us, but not for 4 years on big money.

Better than no one, on no money. Low risk cheapies will get us nowhere.

Depends, if the big money on Finucane in 4 years time stops us from resigning Stef then it would be an issue. You can't just waste money, just because there is money free now, doesn't mean that we should be overpaying in 4 years time.

His last year is cheap. If they don't have money for Stef because of one other contract then they clearly don't have a clue.