Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492747) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492717) said:
I don't understand why everyone is upset on the Hodgson proposed deal is he older yes but he provides so much more than liddle on and off field its a smart move he is older signs a 2 year gives time for jake to get ready then he takes over seems straightforward to me

He is also such a **smart footballer between the ears and knows how to control a game**..

This is a huge part of what's been missing in 2021. Some of the play was absolutely **brainless**, particularly through the back end of the season.
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492717) said:
I don't understand why everyone is upset on the Hodgson proposed deal is he older yes but he provides so much more than liddle on and off field its a smart move he is older signs a 2 year gives time for jake to get ready then he takes over seems straightforward to me

Isn’t that why we signed Tamou?
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492625) said:
@swordy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492606) said:
I've heard zero from the club about Hodgson being chased. So what that says to me is that when he stays a Raider or moves to Gold Coast, it will be yet another baseless story about how Wests Tigers botched the signing.

When Journo's start interviewing and quoting other journo's as if it's fact, it's time for the funny farm.

So because you didn’t hear it, it’s crap ? A bunch of us heard at the beginning of the week.

If you check my posts, I mentioned this as a good option (in my opinion) some months ago (8/8/21 to be exact). Its no surprise to me at all. I've not heard any official comments on it, that's all.

I've never said it was crap, my point is regardless of it being factual or not, it will be reported as factual and how we botched yet another signing if it doesn't happen.

The club can't win.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492662) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492659) said:
Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

This club is nuts.

We want to keep the underachiever coach but get rid of one of our greatest assets.
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492699) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492694) said:
So our only positive has been the young guys we've signed, and the guy that identified them is gone. Are we still focusing on youth or is that changing now too?

You’re nuts if you think Madge had nothing to do with signing those guys

As people have rightly pointed out, Maguire is only made 'responsible' for recruiting players when they don't come.

If recruiting Shawn Blore is one of your coups you ain't done much. Chammas hasn't done him a favour.

A few people in the last couple months said Hartigan was over his head. Perhaps he's also being made an example of for leaking to the media? @cochise
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492755) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492662) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492659) said:
Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

This club is nuts.

We want to keep the underachiever coach but get rid of one of our greatest assets.

I can understand why someone whose main strength is recruiting junior "elite" talent - given we've the new pathways in place and have Kimmorley and Betsey, and we require more than that. Just confused about the McDonnell thing, like I asked before is he as bad as is stated on here?
What sort of reputation does he have with NRL players - which signings has he made in his tenure at all clubs he's been at etc.,??
 
@bermitiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492654) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492576) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492556) said:
There hasn’t been much at all leaking from the club since the review hopefully they found the culprit and got rid of him

The trap caught 2 rats.

Liddle and Brooks?

Proof please??
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492762) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492755) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492662) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492659) said:
Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

This club is nuts.

We want to keep the underachiever coach but get rid of one of our greatest assets.

I can understand why someone whose main strength is recruiting junior "elite" talent - given we've the new pathways in place and have Kimmorley and Betsey, and we require more than that. Just confused about the McDonnell thing, like I asked before is he as bad as is stated on here?
What sort of reputation does he have with NRL players - which signings has he made in his tenure at all clubs he's been at etc.,??

He established the relationship with Keebra Park SHS. One of our good young centres from Flegg is a Kiwi he recruited for Canterbury with his younger brother. His younger brother has returned to the Dogs but the older brother still at WTs looks an outstanding centre prospect. I believe Sheens will like to do a lot of the NRL recruitment. He was known as the 'recruiter' at WTs.
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492763) said:
@bermitiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492654) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492576) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492556) said:
There hasn’t been much at all leaking from the club since the review hopefully they found the culprit and got rid of him

The trap caught 2 rats.

Liddle and Brooks?

Proof please??

Proof not required in this place. You know you get blasted if you ask for proof!

Just get caught up in the stupidity like some others.!
 
Thanks @pawsandclaws1 and sorry didn't realise I left out a few words, but glad you understood what I meant.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492756) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492699) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492694) said:
So our only positive has been the young guys we've signed, and the guy that identified them is gone. Are we still focusing on youth or is that changing now too?

You’re nuts if you think Madge had nothing to do with signing those guys

As people have rightly pointed out, Maguire is only made 'responsible' for recruiting players when they don't come.

If recruiting Shawn Blore is one of your coups you ain't done much. Chammas hasn't done him a favour.

A few people in the last couple months said Hartigan was over his head. Perhaps he's also being made an example of for leaking to the media? @cochise

I think that’s why old mate Chammas finds it bizarre. He doesn’t know where he’s gonna get his info from anymore
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492762) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492755) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492662) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492659) said:
Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

This club is nuts.

We want to keep the underachiever coach but get rid of one of our greatest assets.

I can understand why someone whose main strength is recruiting junior "elite" talent - given we've the new pathways in place and have Kimmorley and Betsey, and we require more than that. Just confused about the McDonnell thing, like I asked before is he as bad as is stated on here?
**What sort of reputation does he have with NRL players - which signings has he made in his tenure at all clubs he's been at etc.,??**

You could probably answer that yourself by looking at his previous tenure at the Bulldogs from 2016-2019. I wouldn't imagine it would cover him in glory, but i havent had a look.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492680) said:
Hartigan has been dumped by Sheens with Warren Mcdonell coming back. Terrible from Sheens


Looks like Sheens holds Hartigan responsible for the shambles of roster we currently have .. ?? Here's hoping the Sheens / McDonnell combination can do us better .. !!
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492766) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492762) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492755) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492662) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492659) said:
Hartigan Gonski
LATEST

Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.

Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19

This club is nuts.

We want to keep the underachiever coach but get rid of one of our greatest assets.

I can understand why someone whose main strength is recruiting junior "elite" talent - given we've the new pathways in place and have Kimmorley and Betsey, and we require more than that. Just confused about the McDonnell thing, like I asked before is he as bad as is stated on here?
What sort of reputation does he have with NRL players - which signings has he made in his tenure at all clubs he's been at etc.,??

He established the relationship with Keebra Park SHS. One of our good young centres from Flegg is a Kiwi he recruited for Canterbury with his younger brother. His younger brother has returned to the Dogs but the older brother still at WTs looks an outstanding centre prospect. I believe Sheens will like to do a lot of the NRL recruitment. He was known as the 'recruiter' at WTs.

Mage will be pleased
 
Am i wrong in saying there is a cap now for all footy departments. I am led to believe you can only pay so much now to stop clubs going broke sacking coaches and the like. I would assume now Sheensy is back we may have gone over the cap so Hartigan was let go. Either way Ill put my trust in Sheensy to identify the future talent required. Hartigan did some good stuff but failed in many ways.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492680) said:
Hartigan has been dumped by Sheens with Warren Mcdonell coming back. Terrible from Sheens

Ah yes! The Messiah “Teflon Tim” has returned. ☠️
 
Dolphins have already idenetify their target players for 2023 .. Munster, Ponga and Grant .. !! Crikey a nice spine their already 1, 6, ... and 9 .. I wonder who'll be their 7 .. ??
 
@tigerskins said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492781) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492680) said:
Hartigan has been dumped by Sheens with Warren Mcdonell coming back. Terrible from Sheens


Looks like Sheens holds Hartigan responsible for the shambles of roster we currently have .. ?? Here's hoping the Sheens / McDonnell combination can do us better .. !!

All I can say is that I am aware a number of our junior stars have been promised a lot but getting paperwork for next year has never been forthcoming. If you speak to some of the agents, they have been pulling their hair out for months.

This club is so bloody disorganised - whether someone was holding back Hartigan I don't know. It's amazing how being all over the shop off the field runs deep throughout the club and onto the field.

It will be a miracle but if the club doesn't move quickly, some of these kids will be lost.
 
@leichardt99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492664) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492651) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492639) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492636) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492630) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492627) said:
@swordy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492606) said:
I've heard zero from the club about Hodgson being chased. So what that says to me is that when he stays a Raider or moves to Gold Coast, it will be yet another baseless story about how Wests Tigers botched the signing.

When Journo's start interviewing and quoting other journo's as if it's fact, it's time for the funny farm.

It is the other side of the story that gets too me. Liddle is a very fine player and a loyal WT. I believe he is a captain in waiting at WTs. He is articulate and presents well. He has made an amazing recovery from a very serious knee injury. Injuries of this type take a long time to overcome. I know this as my brother in law was a physio at two former first grade clubs. These posts which want to move him on are in very poor form.

I like and respect Liddle. For tigers to be top eight we need above average players. Is he in the top 4-8 hookers? I personally think he’s reached his ceiling hence the whole not in the future plans talk.

Josh Hodgson hasn't been in the top 4-8 hookers for the past two years, and sure as hell isn't going to be in two years' time.

Josh Hodgson is an international hooker. Are you kidding me?


Would he play for Australia?

He's British though isn't he? So no he wouldn't play for Australia. Also if the prerequisite for signing a 9 to our club is that they are the Australian hooker we'll be waiting a while.


The implication in saying “Josh Hodgson is an international hooker, are you kidding me?” is suggesting that representing England is as big of an achievement and as impressive as being an Australian international. It’s nowhere near the same. How much competition would he have for that jersey? As good as he was at his peak, he would not have come close to an Origin or Australian jersey. Any other rep jumper doesn’t carry the same significance as a lot of average players represent other nations because they simply aren’t as strong.
 

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