Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496660) said:
Simpkin already does a better job then liddle you bring in someone like Hodgson to mentor him he will only improve

No he doesn't... Your drunk.
He may do in time, On this season.... You're kidding yourself.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496642) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496638) said:
No answer? Just delete.
Typical.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/970/are-you-new-to-this-site-rules-and-guidelines

Have I been added to the guidelines?
Thanks for your help.
Who do I speak to about a refund?
 
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496629) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496476) said:
@jai_donaldson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496473) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496464) said:
@barnzee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496463) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496347) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496300) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496294) said:
@jai_donaldson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496293) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496257) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496246) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496242) said:
The Hodgson vs Api situation is very interesting. I am not saying this will happen I actually think it will fall through (knowing the tigers). But looking in as a fan Hodgson is definitely the better option long term if we can get rid of Liddle. Simpkin is a class hooker and has proved this in KOE and first grade. Our problem is and has been for a while is an 80 minute hooker. For me wasting a bench spot on a hooker or utility is silly especially for a team like the tigers. It needs to be 4 big men. I think Simpkin does need to be phased into 80 minutes but Hodgson is perfect for the whole team.
Hodgson is a leader and has the British connection with Hastings, Gildart and Sheens. Which you would think would tempt him to come. Only flaw for me is that he is injury prone but that is easily fixed. IE: Hastings, Simpkin and I would like to see Dockar-clay in the top 30.

In conclusion, in the long run and for the team you would think Hodgson is the wiser choice. With Simpkin at 14 to add attacking flare. But we will see how the meat head of Pascoe sorts this us.

As it stands, Liddle is streets ahead of Simpkin…
How anyone sees it does different is beyond me.
Simpkin may have more upside in the long run, I’ll think you might find Liddle does as well.
If Liddle and Madge don’t work - that may be a separate issue…
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Liddle end up at the chooks… he has time with the ball, he’s a bit underdone - and has some work to do… but you can’t buy time…

Liddle is a Hooker who can't pass accurately and has no kicking game. He's pretty limited and one dimensional. What's worse for him is he lacks the cardiovascular capacity to play a full game

Can't believe there were 3 ppl who downvoted this. I feel you've stated complete truth.

Liddle is developing a fan base much like Brooks... except Brooks fans bailed, I believe.

People are even starting to make rubbish excuses for Liddle.... "oh he fatigues that's why he struggles" for a start he's a professional player that's played over 50 games, he shouldn't be getting tired after 20 mins as a dummy half. Different if he's a prop

Secondly he can't pass! No matter what time of the game he manages to throw a pass at Brooks ankles or over Doueihis head.

Not saying he's completely rubbish and should be punted but it's pretty clear we need a lot more direction at hooker and if you're choosing one of Liddle or Simpkin to put time into and develop, you always choose Simpkin.

There's no harm in keeping both our current hookers AND signing Hodgson either

I vote to punt Simpkin - can't play 80, stands too much with hands on hips, ball hog.....Bye!

Mate I was at both games in Redcliffe and Liddle was walking around in back play all the time with hands on hips he was completely gassed after 15 minutes, maybe go too some live games you might see it for yourself

Tops the tackle count with his hands on his hips....Plays dummy half in the back play...

Wasn't anywhere to be seen, not even within 20m of Joffa when he played the ball 1m from the tryline against Warriors with Tigers down by 2. No dummy half at all, turn over. That is inexcusable at 1st grade level. Camera pans around and he's sucking in air mid pitch from 2 plays prior.

That was a season killer right there. As was his brain snap on the tryline against Pangai Junior, without that we might have beaten Penrith twice, imagine the difference to the perception of our season and club if that had been the case.

Yep, you're right. You got him on two occasions. And you'll probably try to tell us AD never missed a tackle or Laurie always linked up with his support and Stefano never missed a tackle or dropped a ball.

Yeah fair call, not trying to death ride the bloke, I've said before he was far from our worst this year, and he was infinitely more valuable than someone like Mbye.

Still, either Hodgson or Api would be a big upgrade.
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496675) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496642) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496638) said:
No answer? Just delete.
Typical.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/970/are-you-new-to-this-site-rules-and-guidelines

Have I been added to the guidelines?
Thanks for your help.
Who do I speak to about a refund?

Swearing breeches the forum guidlines, as does disguised swearing. We have eased up on deleting posts containing disguised swearing but if you swear or use disguised swearing in a post you run the risk of that post being deleted.
 
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496512) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496495) said:
TIGERS’ WORD ON LEILUA FIASCO

Ex-Tigers centre Joey Leilua sent the rugby league world into a spin when he blasted coach Michael Maguire, while also denying reports he was only offered a train-and-trial contract by the club.

And now the Tigers have responded to the confusion over the 29-year-old’s future.

Leilua’s contract, understood to be worth around $800,000 per season, expires this year. News Corp reported that the Tigers had offered him a $1,000-per week train-and-trial deal rather than a top 30 contract extension after he had a disappointing season.


However Leilua took to Instagram to deny those reports, claiming he wasn’t offered anything, while also saying he wouldn’t want to play for Maguire anyway.

News Corp stood by the original report.

Now, Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out confirming the club didn’t offer him anything.

“Absolutely, when in doubt, go to the source Joey is correct,” Hagipantelis told SEN.

**“There was no contract of any sort offered to Joey.”**

***Leilua is reportedly weighing up a move to the USA to pursue rugby union.***

I find this interesting.

Does anyone have any insight into what sort of money could be made playing Union in the USA, never really struck me as a big dollar option for players.


probably play in California for a years supply of in and out burgers
 
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496682) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496512) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496495) said:
TIGERS’ WORD ON LEILUA FIASCO

Ex-Tigers centre Joey Leilua sent the rugby league world into a spin when he blasted coach Michael Maguire, while also denying reports he was only offered a train-and-trial contract by the club.

And now the Tigers have responded to the confusion over the 29-year-old’s future.

Leilua’s contract, understood to be worth around $800,000 per season, expires this year. News Corp reported that the Tigers had offered him a $1,000-per week train-and-trial deal rather than a top 30 contract extension after he had a disappointing season.


However Leilua took to Instagram to deny those reports, claiming he wasn’t offered anything, while also saying he wouldn’t want to play for Maguire anyway.

News Corp stood by the original report.

Now, Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out confirming the club didn’t offer him anything.

“Absolutely, when in doubt, go to the source Joey is correct,” Hagipantelis told SEN.

**“There was no contract of any sort offered to Joey.”**

***Leilua is reportedly weighing up a move to the USA to pursue rugby union.***

I find this interesting.

Does anyone have any insight into what sort of money could be made playing Union in the USA, never really struck me as a big dollar option for players.


probably play in California for a years supply of in and out burgers

That place is weird. There’s about 3 or 4 burgers on the whole menu.
 
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496659) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496654) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496587) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496569) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496566) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496562) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496509) said:
@wagga_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496267) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496257) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496246) said:
@dugwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496242) said:
The Hodgson vs Api situation is very interesting. I am not saying this will happen I actually think it will fall through (knowing the tigers). But looking in as a fan Hodgson is definitely the better option long term if we can get rid of Liddle. Simpkin is a class hooker and has proved this in KOE and first grade. Our problem is and has been for a while is an 80 minute hooker. For me wasting a bench spot on a hooker or utility is silly especially for a team like the tigers. It needs to be 4 big men. I think Simpkin does need to be phased into 80 minutes but Hodgson is perfect for the whole team.
Hodgson is a leader and has the British connection with Hastings, Gildart and Sheens. Which you would think would tempt him to come. Only flaw for me is that he is injury prone but that is easily fixed. IE: Hastings, Simpkin and I would like to see Dockar-clay in the top 30.

In conclusion, in the long run and for the team you would think Hodgson is the wiser choice. With Simpkin at 14 to add attacking flare. But we will see how the meat head of Pascoe sorts this us.

As it stands, Liddle is streets ahead of Simpkin…
How anyone sees it does different is beyond me.
Simpkin may have more upside in the long run, I’ll think you might find Liddle does as well.
If Liddle and Madge don’t work - that may be a separate issue…
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Liddle end up at the chooks… he has time with the ball, he’s a bit underdone - and has some work to do… but you can’t buy time…

Liddle is a Hooker who can't pass accurately and has no kicking game. He's pretty limited and one dimensional. What's worse for him is he lacks the cardiovascular capacity to play a full game


And Simpkin is worse, I don’t know where you get the idea that he is our saviour he is a couple of years away thanks to Covid

If you can't see more in Simpkin than Liddle jog on seriously. I was a fan of liddle up until this season but his service game has gone bad really quickly. Im seriously amazed this club decided to re-sign him, it seems bulking up in the offseason has done him no good at all, cant have a hooker in 1sts passing the way he does. Rather invest into Simpkin who showed more in his first two games than liddle has in a long time. Consistently producing those kind of games will come with age I feel, wasn't suprised to see him struggle after those two first games especially after his effort in the souths game. Liddle on the other hand, if hes not there now, I don't see the point in holding onto him apart from warming the seat really.

Can't hit a downvote - so consider it given.

back at you, i dont get your affiliation but its bizarre how defensive you are of this bloke

I don't get how people think this pretender is going to be a star - another Harry Grant people said - then all the fairies walked in.

Hes 19, how about give him a chance huh? Just like we did with Liddle all this time? I've seen you rate lachlan lewis before, that speaks volumes for your judgement on a good footy player. That lewis bloke cant strap boots for the local guildford owls, yet you rated him. Go figure.

How about you give Liddle a chance - 64 games for a DH is not long enough.

We are talking now - if we don't get another hooker for 2022 then....

It is a choice of Liddle or Simpkin to play next year.

If you think that next year Simpkin can do a better job than Liddle. Go figure that.

Do not see how Lewis comes into this discussion.

Thats 64 games over how many seasons though? And like I said, in the most recent influx of those games, he has been below average. Im sorry if you don't see that. I think ultimately the club does now, hence the discussion with Hodgson, which is why I was so confused with his re-signing. You think they'll run with Liddle on the bench? Nope.. whats the point, we gonna wait till he's 30 before he can distribute as a hooker should? And when it comes to the bench position, yes I think Simpkin can do a better job than Liddle, and with a few more games (not 64 over 5 seasons), Im quite confident he will take the starting hooker role and play 80 mins, as a hooker should. Where does Lewis come into play? It's just my assumption that you seem to rate a very unique set of players, irrespective of their talent... you kind of hand them out participation awards for looking like they try.

Look at it like coach does!!!
Liddle = showing signs of improvement after a horror run with injury, not yet stringing games together consistency is an issue......could go either way.
Hodgson = Proven hooker with smarts, ability and experience that saw him in grand final two years ago.
Koroisau = premiership winner, fittest of the three also has good rap sheet, Origin,GF and an experienced first grader that has no major injury concern(unless I missed something).
But has some baggage when it comes to off field issues.

My opinion, Hodgson, 2 years rotating roll with Simpkin.
The right kind of signing to help grow a young specialist hooker for the long run.
Koroisau would block him.
Liddle I can’t see becoming what we need.
 
@gcfan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496684) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496682) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496512) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496495) said:
TIGERS’ WORD ON LEILUA FIASCO

Ex-Tigers centre Joey Leilua sent the rugby league world into a spin when he blasted coach Michael Maguire, while also denying reports he was only offered a train-and-trial contract by the club.

And now the Tigers have responded to the confusion over the 29-year-old’s future.

Leilua’s contract, understood to be worth around $800,000 per season, expires this year. News Corp reported that the Tigers had offered him a $1,000-per week train-and-trial deal rather than a top 30 contract extension after he had a disappointing season.


However Leilua took to Instagram to deny those reports, claiming he wasn’t offered anything, while also saying he wouldn’t want to play for Maguire anyway.

News Corp stood by the original report.

Now, Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out confirming the club didn’t offer him anything.

“Absolutely, when in doubt, go to the source Joey is correct,” Hagipantelis told SEN.

**“There was no contract of any sort offered to Joey.”**

***Leilua is reportedly weighing up a move to the USA to pursue rugby union.***

I find this interesting.

Does anyone have any insight into what sort of money could be made playing Union in the USA, never really struck me as a big dollar option for players.


probably play in California for a years supply of in and out burgers

That place is weird. There’s about 3 or 4 burgers on the whole menu.


ahh no there are plenty apparently

https://www.bustle.com/articles/99341-how-do-i-order-the-in-n-out-secret-menu-a-handy-guide-because-it-requires-a-whole

BJ will be in heaven....
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496286) said:
@masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496282) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496275) said:
Why is this possibly getting deleted???

Couldn't tell you why is was deleted, but maybe they could create some Mod Lament thread and leave this one alone.

It was in this thread that's why I asked

Wasn't having a go at you, or anyone. Just seems like mod discussion would be better appreciated in its own thread.
 
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496682) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496512) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496495) said:
TIGERS’ WORD ON LEILUA FIASCO

Ex-Tigers centre Joey Leilua sent the rugby league world into a spin when he blasted coach Michael Maguire, while also denying reports he was only offered a train-and-trial contract by the club.

And now the Tigers have responded to the confusion over the 29-year-old’s future.

Leilua’s contract, understood to be worth around $800,000 per season, expires this year. News Corp reported that the Tigers had offered him a $1,000-per week train-and-trial deal rather than a top 30 contract extension after he had a disappointing season.


However Leilua took to Instagram to deny those reports, claiming he wasn’t offered anything, while also saying he wouldn’t want to play for Maguire anyway.

News Corp stood by the original report.

Now, Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis has come out confirming the club didn’t offer him anything.

“Absolutely, when in doubt, go to the source Joey is correct,” Hagipantelis told SEN.

**“There was no contract of any sort offered to Joey.”**

***Leilua is reportedly weighing up a move to the USA to pursue rugby union.***

I find this interesting.

Does anyone have any insight into what sort of money could be made playing Union in the USA, never really struck me as a big dollar option for players.


probably play in California for a years supply of in and out burgers

![Burger.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1634899599747-burger.jpg)

The burgers would be good which is more than you could probably say about Joey.
 
@masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496703) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496286) said:
@masterton said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496282) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496275) said:
Why is this possibly getting deleted???

Couldn't tell you why is was deleted, but maybe they could create some Mod Lament thread and leave this one alone.

It was in this thread that's why I asked

Wasn't having a go at you, or anyone. Just seems like mod discussion would be better appreciated in its own thread.

Would have bro but thread got canned.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496642) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496638) said:
No answer? Just delete.
Typical.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/970/are-you-new-to-this-site-rules-and-guidelines

So number 3 is no name calling and number 6 says that it applies to people not in the forum aswell, ie players.
Yet Willow gets away with calling brooks an imp?
Meanwhile dozens of posts get deleted everyday for frivolous reasons. I had a post deleted saying I thought the new logo would look better without the word tigers.

It's getting ridiculous and I don't know who is making these deletions as it's all anonymous.

I only quoted you Cochise as you posted the link to the guidelines.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496738) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496642) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496638) said:
No answer? Just delete.
Typical.

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/970/are-you-new-to-this-site-rules-and-guidelines

So number 3 is no name calling and number 6 says that it applies to people not in the forum aswell, ie players.
Yet Willow gets away with calling brooks an imp?
Meanwhile dozens of posts get deleted everyday for frivolous reasons. I had a post deleted saying I thought the new logo would look better without the word tigers.

It's getting ridiculous and I don't know who is making these deletions as it's all anonymous.

I only quoted you Cochise as you posted the link to the guidelines.

All good mate, I think the logo looks better without the words Wests Tigers, I havn't thought about how it would look with just Wests.

Edit Only just realised that I posted this on the signings thread so I should really delete my own post.

Api isn't coming to the Tigers, there fixed it lol
 
@ccwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496425) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496404) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496400) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496395) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496394) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1496392) said:
I’m starting to think Hartigan was an inside agent.

Elaborate?

Well he was pretty incompetent letting so many juniors go. Like, how can you not return calls and not turn up to meetings when that is the bread and butter of your role? There was a rumour floating around a month or two ago that Pascoe was doing this. Maybe the wires were crossed and it was Hartigan.

Pretty poor performance at the job hey.
Essentially a dream job for many, myself included and he made so many mistakes...

Heard a little whisper that he even convinced a few of the players to throw the Dogs game due to his beef with Madge....

But again Demps ...that is if you believe what the club is feeding us ......If they told me the sky was blue ..I'd expect to look outside and see a Cat 5 cyclone coming ...they simple say stuff to save their own arses ......

In regards to what the club feeds us, do you think the Pom is told what bits of info to pass on by the club?

I don't know what the Pom is told to tell us ..or even IF he is told to tell us

But I can guarantee IF they or the Ranga are told anything it won't be something that will put the club in a bad light ....will it ??
 
Does anyone know if Hodgson is any closer to accepting the deal? We really need him, Liddle is not a 80min hooker, his defence isn’t great in the middle. Hodgson and Curtis Scott would be alright
 

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