Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BalmainJnr]

Did we sign the Roosters accountant? Schubert?

 

[cochise]

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/sport/26-seq-junior-stars-going-the-other-way-to-sydney-nrl-clubs-like-the-roosters-bulldogs-and-wests-tigers/news-story/f70fd2363af84ed341dcd74879d1f9e1%3famp

Looks like we have recruited well from QLD with the focus on pathways

The Wests Tigers have six of the best – Queensland schoolboys merit prop Herman Tofaeono (Keebra Park SHS), 2021 joint Justin Hodges medallist Chris Faatugu (Marsden SHS), outstanding Wavell No. 13 Junior Taungatua (Wavell SHS), middle forward Mou Taumaletila (Marsden SHS) and utility Kienan Tempest (Marsden SHS) who is a David Stagg clone.

Throw in brilliant Kirwan SHS outside back talent Dudley Dotoi from Far North Queensland and you have a bag full of good kids headed to the Wests Tigers.


And yet the majority of the forum are still carrying on like Jason Taylor is running things.

People need to wake up to the fact that this club is indeed doing good things and stop blaming them for the past mistakes.

Maybe the club should communicate a lot better with there stake holders … if this younger talent is on the books TELL us ,explain what’s happening and the direction the club is taking . COMMUNICATION costs nothing it’s easy but the most fundamental resource that organisation do not use effectively.

Still feel it wouldn't matter. Most people are still hung up on Josh Addo Carr etc

I actually met Addo Carr on Cup Day. Lovely fella. Asked him why he didn't come back to the Tigers and he said we didn't want him

At the price he was asking...

Can only take a man at his word

For sure. I just recollect a heads of agreement or was that latrell?

There was a HOA but only if the Storm agreed to a release for 2021. WT wouldn't agree to a player swap to secure the release so the Heads of Agreement was null and void

Doesn't that suggest we wanted him?

Fact that we wouldn't agree to any player swap to secure his release would suggest we didn't want him that much

You do realise it doesn't work that way?

It does for players under contract at clubs with backbone and when players have integrity not to down tools. We had to release Momorovski to secure Laurie. Exactly the same

And if the player doesn't want to move to Melbourne?

as Penrith said with .ansour you will not be playing first grade, so he took up a swap with souths

Pretty different situation when you are asking someone to move to a different state.

 

[Odessa]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

 

[happy_tiger]

I can only wish the roosters are enticing players with money, but I think the uncomfortable truth is that players are going there to be successful and sacrificing the money. If this generation values winning over money, our hill gets even steeper to climb, Ryan Matterson was on $180K at the chooks . When his upgrade request got leaked, whilst a WT. Many started to entertain the notion of the roosters actually being under the cap.

The Roosters are NEVER under the salary cap.This cr3p about players playing for unders "just to be at the Roosters" is a Politus inspired myth .Just because payments dont show up on the books, dont think for a second players are not receiving delayed payments for years after they retire from third parties, supposedly at arms length from the club.

1000 % Agree this happens..
Even retired players joke about it yet we get done for offering Farah a job AFTER footy when he was also leaving our club..
I've said it for years now but all payment should be paid through NRL and TPA need to be scrapped or heavily looked at by NRL.. Unfortunately the NRL have no balls to fix it

But we aren't as smart as teh Roosters ...we told the entire football world what we were doing when we made Faf a life member

That doesn't happen at the Roosters ....page 27 in an obscure sporting magazine

 

[tigerman 0]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

So players don’t want to come to the Tigers cos they don’t want to lose. But he loves it at the Dogs. Righto

 

[Fainu Brothers]

@THE_POM did the Raiders and WT come to an agreement for Hodgson?

 

[earl]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

So players don’t want to come to the Tigers cos they don’t want to lose. But he loves it at the Dogs. Righto

Money is the no 1 factor. Then money. Then money. Then winning.

 

[TigerWest]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

So players don’t want to come to the Tigers cos they don’t want to lose. But he loves it at the Dogs. Righto

Money is the no 1 factor. Then money. Then money. Then winning.

Totally agree, the managers want their money from whoever is giving out the most as it should be tbh.

 

[DGilly]

I can only wish the roosters are enticing players with money, but I think the uncomfortable truth is that players are going there to be successful and sacrificing the money. If this generation values winning over money, our hill gets even steeper to climb, Ryan Matterson was on $180K at the chooks . When his upgrade request got leaked, whilst a WT. Many started to entertain the notion of the roosters actually being under the cap.

The Roosters are NEVER under the salary cap.This cr3p about players playing for unders "just to be at the Roosters" is a Politus inspired myth .Just because payments dont show up on the books, dont think for a second players are not receiving delayed payments for years after they retire from third parties, supposedly at arms length from the club.

I know someone who knows Politis very well and is strongly associated with the Roosters. He said to me "there's absolutely no way they're under the cap. I'd bet every cent I've ever earned that they're over"

 

[DGilly]

I can only wish the roosters are enticing players with money, but I think the uncomfortable truth is that players are going there to be successful and sacrificing the money. If this generation values winning over money, our hill gets even steeper to climb, Ryan Matterson was on $180K at the chooks . When his upgrade request got leaked, whilst a WT. Many started to entertain the notion of the roosters actually being under the cap.

The Roosters are NEVER under the salary cap.This cr3p about players playing for unders "just to be at the Roosters" is a Politus inspired myth .Just because payments dont show up on the books, dont think for a second players are not receiving delayed payments for years after they retire from third parties, supposedly at arms length from the club.

The Roosters have a way around the cap. It's called perks.

A day of golf at a top-of-the-line course could cost your average punter well over a thousand dollars. If Uncle Nick is there, you won't pay a cent. And we all know about the infamous "games for money", and how terrible Nick Politis is at winning them.

Wanna hire a nice car for a short getaway? And how about staying at a nice hotel? Easy. Nick has you sorted. I imagine there are also a lot of nice bars/restaurants in Bondi where they won't pay a cent ("nah nah got you bro"). Imagine the financial advise those guys get too. They'll all be on the same stocks, picking winners. Maybe your partner is an Instagram influencer...would be easy to hook her up with sponsorships.

So while the contract may read $800K/year, really the value of the contract is likely upwards of $1M, thanks to all the perks you get just by being a Roosters player. A lot of those perks will likely continue in some form if the player retires at the club. Especially if your retirement is favourable for managing the roster.

I can't hate on them for it. Every club can do it, although most will eventually get caught. Although if your club has been at the top of the ladder for a few years, I can see the NRL pretending they saw nothing.

Is it fair?

Nope.

But every team in every sport in the world does it. The difference with the NRL compared to other sports is that you don't usually have half of your teams sharing the same region.

Was told by the same person in my above post that Latrell for example was given a new car by Politis, took it up to Taree on a bye weekend and caught the train back home cause him and his mates trashed it.

 

[tony soprano]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

I've heard can be pretty brutal.

 

[jadtiger]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

Just goes to show that Cotric is as dumb as the rest of the dogs.They have a better chance of going back to back spooners than making the 8 imo.Though i am sure his bank balance is far healthier playing for them

 

[tony soprano]

I can only wish the roosters are enticing players with money, but I think the uncomfortable truth is that players are going there to be successful and sacrificing the money. If this generation values winning over money, our hill gets even steeper to climb, Ryan Matterson was on $180K at the chooks . When his upgrade request got leaked, whilst a WT. Many started to entertain the notion of the roosters actually being under the cap.

The Roosters are NEVER under the salary cap.This cr3p about players playing for unders "just to be at the Roosters" is a Politus inspired myth .Just because payments dont show up on the books, dont think for a second players are not receiving delayed payments for years after they retire from third parties, supposedly at arms length from the club.

I know someone who knows Politis very well and is strongly associated with the Roosters. He said to me "there's absolutely no way they're under the cap. I'd bet every cent I've ever earned that they're over"

Nrl is corrupt

 

[Lankanflyer10.98]

This is my rationale : The storm are the NRL's "darlings" positioned strategically in the heartland of Rugby League's biggest threat AFL, on so many levels their success(financially) is inherent to the NRL's aspirations, but symbolically (results on field) its crucial, drawing fans and most importantly media coverage in Victoria. Given this, when the NRL got a sniff of the rort, they hunted them down like dogs on the street. Why would the NRL leave the roosters alone, no local juniors, small crowds and I am sure we get more free to air games, which mean their TV ratings are not strong either. Pardon the pun but it doesn't add up.

 

[TCL]

This is my rationale : The storm are the NRL's "darlings" positioned strategically in the heartland of Rugby League's biggest threat AFL, on so many levels their success(financially) is inherent to the NRL's aspirations, but symbolically (results on field) its crucial, drawing fans and most importantly media coverage in Victoria. Given this, when the NRL got a sniff of the rort, they hunted them down like dogs on the street. Why would the NRL leave the roosters alone, no local juniors, small crowds and I am sure we get more free to air games, which mean their TV ratings are not strong either. Pardon the pun but it doesn't add up.

Evidence. The NRL needs to be given the case signed sealed and delivered before they will do anything.

 

[jadtiger]

This is my rationale : The storm are the NRL's "darlings" positioned strategically in the heartland of Rugby League's biggest threat AFL, on so many levels their success(financially) is inherent to the NRL's aspirations, but symbolically (results on field) its crucial, drawing fans and most importantly media coverage in Victoria. Given this, when the NRL got a sniff of the rort, they hunted them down like dogs on the street. Why would the NRL leave the roosters alone, no local juniors, small crowds and I am sure we get more free to air games, which mean their TV ratings are not strong either. Pardon the pun but it doesn't add up.

Evidence. The NRL needs to be given the case signed sealed and delivered before they will do anything.

The NRL needs a "whistleblower" from the rorters as that is the only way they are likely to be caught,just as that is the way they found Dogs (Insider) and Storm (Accidently given the info by a staffer) cheating.Lets be honest the NRL investigation team are that useless they couldn't track a bleeding elephant over a snow field

 

[avocadoontoast]

If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing


Just goes to show that Cotric is as dumb as the rest of the dogs.They have a better chance of going back to back spooners than making the 8 imo.Though i am sure his bank balance is far healthier playing for them

I don’t think they are any chance to get the spoon. They’re a pretty good roster.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

No one is going to blow the whistle when self interest and cash is involved.

We need to make sure our house is in order and have all the advantages to attract talent. We have great sponsors, our finances are great, our juniors are also progressing well. The negativity associated with one dimensional five hit-ups and a bomb, tactics and Maguire's reputation for being "hard-nosed" need to be addressed. Fix these latter three issues, win a few games and imo we will do well with recruitment.

 

[the_third]

we have been doing 5 hits and a bomb since Jason Taylor. There is one constant in all of that

 

[cochise]

I can only wish the roosters are enticing players with money, but I think the uncomfortable truth is that players are going there to be successful and sacrificing the money. If this generation values winning over money, our hill gets even steeper to climb, Ryan Matterson was on $180K at the chooks . When his upgrade request got leaked, whilst a WT. Many started to entertain the notion of the roosters actually being under the cap.

The Roosters are NEVER under the salary cap.This cr3p about players playing for unders "just to be at the Roosters" is a Politus inspired myth .Just because payments dont show up on the books, dont think for a second players are not receiving delayed payments for years after they retire from third parties, supposedly at arms length from the club.

1000 % Agree this happens..
Even retired players joke about it yet we get done for offering Farah a job AFTER footy when he was also leaving our club..
I've said it for years now but all payment should be paid through NRL and TPA need to be scrapped or heavily looked at by NRL.. Unfortunately the NRL have no balls to fix it

But we aren't as smart as teh Roosters ...we told the entire football world what we were doing when we made Faf a life member

That doesn't happen at the Roosters ....page 27 in an obscure sporting magazine

Well not the entire world, we forgot to clear it with the NRL.