Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[The_Patriot]

If you think reading about Brooks is frustrating/ boring / annoying...

Try watching him play and reflecting on how the club has invested close to a decade into him and chopped and changed the team to try and play to his strengths for the same abysmal stuff, week in week out, year after year.

Also there is no Luke Brooks thread,

I used to get accused of instigating the Luke Brooks is rubbish conversation.

Good to know I don't even need to comment for this conversation to rear it's ugly head.

The guy is a major disappointment no matter which way his fans spin it.

 

[hammertime]

No wonder the poor kid wants to escape this club with some of the 'supporters' it's got

 

[Cobarcats]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
**Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.**
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

We all thought Cleary, Aloiai and Matterson good guys too until they screwed us over. Not saying Stef is the same, but history proves you can’t put these guys on pedestal’s character wise.

 

[Demps]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
**Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.**
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

We all thought Cleary, Aloiai and Matterson were good guys too until they screwed us over. Not saying Stef is the same, but history proves you can’t put these guys on pedestal’s character wise.

Had a discussion about this today sorta..

Everyone hated DCE when he back flipped on the Titans yet no one cared when Teddy did it to the Raiders.

 

[Demps]

No wonder the poor kid wants to escape this club with some of the 'supporters' it's got

All a part of the parcel.

As fans, we support the club.
Players are held accountable for their performances as well as their actions.

If they can't handle the media aspect of the game maybe they should work in a library.

 

[Glenji95]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
**Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.**
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

We all thought Cleary, Aloiai and Matterson were good guys too until they screwed us over. Not saying Stef is the same, but history proves you can’t put these guys on pedestal’s character wise.

Had a discussion about this today sorta..

Everyone hated DCE when he back flipped on the Titans yet no one cared when Teddy did it to the Raiders.

I’m sure Raiders fans were pissed when he backflipped but yeah no one on our end was upset when he backflipped to come back to us wasn’t Moltzen supposed to be going to Dragons but he backflipped too?

 

[Cobarcats]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
**Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.**
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

We all thought Cleary, Aloiai and Matterson good guys too until they screwed us over. Not saying Stef is the same, but history proves you can’t put these guys on pedestal’s character wise.

Your right, we don't know about Stef but we know about the others.
Professional sport is about the dollar hence why managers have a lot of power.
I'm really referring to where the difference in offers is marginal, then it comes down to more what you can offer the player and his family etc.
So I'm asking "what is our sell"

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

I demand we bring back the downvote button. I need to anonymously bring down the Brooks haters.

 

[Bones]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

 

[Telltails]

No wonder the poor kid wants to escape this club with some of the 'supporters' it's got

All a part of the parcel.

As fans, we support the club.
Players are held accountable for their performances as well as their actions.

If they can't handle the media aspect of the game maybe they should work in a library.

He is certainly not "poor" for staying at this club. I like Brooks but he has to own his game - the good and the bad at 27.

 

[Demps]

I was thinking the pro Brooks brigade are no different.

So blinded with their love they simply cannot see the truth or handle any negativity towards the chosen one.

It's a stalemate but the guy has the fans split but the truth still remains...

He's a local boy, a Tiger through and through.
We all wished he kicked on to successful heights and lead us to the land of finals but he's failed to deliver in an important position, year after year.
If it's his fault? Or the coaches, the players around him, I believe everyone can agree... we'd all prefer not to be having these discussions and instead celebrating success.

A Tiger through and through.
The Tigers, a reputation for 9th position... or lower.
Can't win the easy games, can't control the games, go to sleep in the last 30.
A reputation we have built... with Luke Brooks being at the core of it.

2022, enough is enough.
We're stuck with him, hopefully he can improve his game and show what we all have been expecting since the debut against the Dragons.

Otherwise, strap in lads.
The "Punt Him" comments will continue.

 

[Lee's fedora]

Punt Him to Newcastle

 

[Geo]

Extention by mid year is my tip..

 

[Demps]

Extention by mid year is my tip..

💔

 

[PJ_]

Brooks is like Frodo to me.
Tasked with a responsibility too great but without the fellowship (and other key characters), he's unable to advance to Mordor due to its burden.

I'm a huge fan of his, admit he's not developed into the leader I'd hoped he'd be and has been unable to reach his full potential but factoring in every challenge this club has faced and every limitation the team has had, it's not too hard to see why his (and the team's) progression has been like a roller-coaster.
Club and performance culture, recruitment and retention, infrastructures and systems have been poor for near a decade and people are still debating why we've been unable to create champion NRL players or a high performing team. Despite all this instability.
Collective leadership, coaches, teammates and standards help promote or optimise player and team development but without the necessary skills or resources (including players) the outcomes will always unsuccessfully reflect this - in the aforementioned aspects.

The worst thing about the low quality of our squads, over recent years, is that it's been hard to see who's going the extra mile. As sometimes there are players carrying the load of others and people rarely notice it. Not many are playing to the best of their capabilities and some don't even know what theirs are yet. Nor their limitations.
You cant fault one person for the team's lack of success. Also don't understand why people are harbouring any resentment over the Dally M halfback award. It's a great accomplshment despite the WTs failures.

Wish he'd bugger off to the undying lands..

 

[PJ_]

Extention by mid year is my tip..

Just the tip?

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Extention by mid year is my tip..

Just the tip?

Wait, are we talking about Twal again?

 

[gregjm87]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

I dont think Stef putting contract negotiations off (if that is what has been done) as making the club and supporters suffer, but ensuring he looks after himself and family. He is perfectly entitled to do that.
As for what were pitching, it should 100% be building for better things.
I would not be using the "Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels" because it one isnt really true. It may be true at the surface level for fans but anyone in the industry would tell you he was a gun junior and would have excelled no matter where he went, and i think he would know that. It makes the narrative appear that we believe he owes the club something, rather than the club values his decision to choose us.
We need to show him that we value him, not just with the contract offer by asking for his imput for recruitment and direction of the club. We also need to gently remind him that he is on an Origin path (having been chosen in extended squad) whilst being part of our club. He could possibly jeopardise this by looking elsewhere, be that from either not shining as brightly as just another cog in the bigger teams or simply not fitting into another system as well as he has here.

 

[The_Patriot]

In all seriousness by mid year our coach Maguire knows if he has risen to the challenge.

If not he has his man Hastings to replace him.

People might think the Hastings signing means nothing but you watch this play out if Brooks pulls the same tanking crap again