Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[the_third]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...

the manager works for Stefano. He advises, but the decision is not made by the manager.

he's young, will play SOO while playing for us. we just need to recruit right and pay big $$$.

 

[the_third]

can we restart a Luke Brooks thread so it stays out of here please. I can block it then

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

I was thinking the pro Brooks brigade are no different.

So blinded with their love they simply cannot see the truth or handle any negativity towards the chosen one.

It's a stalemate but the guy has the fans split but the truth still remains...

He's a local boy, a Tiger through and through.
We all wished he kicked on to successful heights and lead us to the land of finals but he's failed to deliver in an important position, year after year.
If it's his fault? Or the coaches, the players around him, I believe everyone can agree... we'd all prefer not to be having these discussions and instead celebrating success.

A Tiger through and through.
The Tigers, a reputation for 9th position... or lower.
Can't win the easy games, can't control the games, go to sleep in the last 30.
A reputation we have built... with Luke Brooks being at the core of it.

2022, enough is enough.
We're stuck with him, hopefully he can improve his game and show what we all have been expecting since the debut against the Dragons.

Otherwise, strap in lads.
The "Punt Him" comments will continue.

Maybe some, and the truth probably sits somewhere in the middle.

My opinion is that he is probably somewhere mid pack in terms of NRL halfbacks. He got compared to Joey as a kid and people are still getting over the fact he isn’t. Newsflash, there isn’t another Joey Johns. I don’t know if anyone has noticed but decent halfbacks are rare as hens teeth at the moment. That’s why guys like Hunt and Townsend are on stupidly big contracts even though they aren’t worth it.

It’s one thing to say punt Brooks, it’s another thing to find someone better, and then to bring that player here.

Hastings could be the player and he’s already here

Possibly, but let’s find out before we punt Brooks.

That’s what I was implying. I’m not a Brooks fan but it’s not the time to move him on

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...


the manager works for Stefano. He advises, but the decision is not made by the manager.

he's young, will play SOO while playing for us. we just need to recruit right and pay big $$$.

Managers will put forward deals that suit them and the power heirachy is heavily in their favour.

I too think Stef is origin bound under our banner. We should offer fair market price and he deserves it! I personally think he’ll extend.

 

[JC99]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...


the manager works for Stefano. He advises, but the decision is not made by the manager.

he's young, will play SOO while playing for us. we just need to recruit right and pay big $$$.

Give him whatever he wants. Genuine freak, he will be a top 5 prop in 2-3 years if not sooner

So keen to see how he goes this year, hopefully bigger minutes and keeps getting better. What a signing he is and hope he sticks around forever

 

[Speed2burn]

Stef upgrade wait is purely from his manager.
Stef wouldn't purposely make the club and supporters suffer as he seems a really nice guy.
The closer we get to kick the hype will increase and we should get an answer.
I'm wondering what the sales pitch to him from the tigers has been?
*we are a successful club? 2005 seems a long time ago
*family atmosphere ♡ dunno
*team bonding, happy joy joy place - maybe
* we're building for greater things - prob
*we have several home grounds - boo
Problem is Sfef's been there for Madge's rants and the sides pathetic performances.
It's a hard sell.
Our faith in him by snapping him up out of obscurity at the eels is probably the only thing that stands out?...


the manager works for Stefano. He advises, but the decision is not made by the manager.

he's young, will play SOO while playing for us. we just need to recruit right and pay big $$$.

Give him whatever he wants. Genuine freak, he will be a top 5 prop in 2-3 years if not sooner

So keen to see how he goes this year, hopefully bigger minutes and keeps getting better. What a signing he is and hope he sticks around forever

Stef is probably the only player in our squad where I’d ask him to write the cheque , needs to be a main stay ?

 

[Tigers_Tale]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

I suppose you then do not rate Tom Raudonikas either, who started with Wests in 1969, and did not play any Semi until 1978, however when he played for Australia, he had never played a semi.

 

[KingRobbie]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

I suppose you then do not rate Tom Raudonikas either, who started with Wests in 1969, and did not play any Semi until 1978, however when he played for Australia, he had never played a semi.

...

Tommy captained Wests in three finals games in 1974, including the Prelim Final...

 

[Cobarcats]

Hey I'm as keen as mustard to get this deal over the line with Stef as any of us. I would love it he became a one club man.
I just asked what the club's sales pitch is.
It's a no brainer that his offer would be substantial.
Is there something we can offer our players after retirement, maybe Harry could use some windows washers for his apartments.
What's the go with his family. Where do they live, can we offer long term care and support for them.
I did mention SOO, club rebuild, etc.
Why is it taking this long?
I wonder what Tim, Madge and co talk to Stef about.
Maybe it's more than just money. If so, what could
it be I wonder?

 

[Eternal Tiger]

Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

Man you are salty! Did Brooksy steal your girlfriend or something?

No, she wouldn't leave me, im actually successful. I wouldn't and don't rate any 7 who has played 170 games and is yet to play in a Semi.
We all have different expectations of players....Champ

I suppose you then do not rate Tom Raudonikas either, who started with Wests in 1969, and did not play any Semi until 1978, however when he played for Australia, he had never played a semi.

1. Wests made the Prelim Final in 1974
2. Brooks hasn't been selected for City Origin, let alone Australia.
3. I want the guy to succeed, but after 170 games, being an above average 7(which is what we need) is beyond him.
I get no joy out of watching him struggle, because it means my team will struggle. I've defended him for years, but it's apparent he's not up to the task.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Who did we play on the weekend and how badly did Brooks play to warrant this sudden urge to rehash the same bashing over and over again?

 

[Geo]

Who did we play on the weekend and how badly did Brooks play to warrant this sudden urge to rehash the same bashing over and over again?

Shirts v shirtless at training.. Brooks shirts lost..

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Who did we play on the weekend and how badly did Brooks play to warrant this sudden urge to rehash the same bashing over and over again?

Shirts v shirtless at training.. Brooks shirts lost..

I thought Brooks was on team skins…

 

[Newtown]

Brooks is like Frodo to me.
Tasked with a responsibility too great but without the fellowship (and other key characters), he's unable to advance to Mordor due to its burden.

I'm a huge fan of his, admit he's not developed into the leader I'd hoped he'd be and has been unable to reach his full potential but factoring in every challenge this club has faced and every limitation the team has had, it's not too hard to see why his (and the team's) progression has been like a roller-coaster.
Club and performance culture, recruitment and retention, infrastructures and systems have been poor for near a decade and people are still debating why we've been unable to create champion NRL players or a high performing team. Despite all this instability.
Collective leadership, coaches, teammates and standards help promote or optimise player and team development but without the necessary skills or resources (including players) the outcomes will always unsuccessfully reflect this - in the aforementioned aspects.

The worst thing about the low quality of our squads, over recent years, is that it's been hard to see who's going the extra mile. As sometimes there are players carrying the load of others and people rarely notice it. Not many are playing to the best of their capabilities and some don't even know what theirs are yet. Nor their limitations.
You cant fault one person for the team's lack of success. Also don't understand why people are harbouring any resentment over the Dally M halfback award. It's a great accomplshment despite the WTs failures.

Wish he'd bugger off to the undying lands..

Let's build him an army so he can get the job done first. He's now got his Samwise Gamgee.... even Gandalf has returned at the turn of the tide ?

In all seriousness though the fate of the whole team/club shouldn't be (perceived as being) in his hands and most of us who support this notion are simply projecting this, as we'd like to see improvements in every area (including Luke's game and leadership abilities).
IMO these type of false assumptions are a danger to our future generation of players and sends a poor message about collective effort and teamwork. I imagine they're not deaf or blind to the scrutiny Luke receives.
It's reached ridiculous levels and I wouldn't want to lose any player if they think the same may happen with them.

Correct. Our Supporters have a bad habit of shooting in the foot, themselves, and the team they are supposed to be following.

 

[Cobarcats]

Who did we play on the weekend and how badly did Brooks play to warrant this sudden urge to rehash the same bashing over and over again?

Agree.
Tiger supporters have been let down more than any other team's supporters and it's only natural that they have a scapegoat to heap the blame on.
Brooksey, who has not performed consistently over a long period now, will simply have to play incredibly well before opinions change in this forum.

 

[jirskyr]

Poor Luke has been called all sorts of things on here and some may have at times called him a midget, a dwarf and maybe even a Hobbit.

It reminds me of the Frankie Boyle joke: "You remind me of Frodo, because you look like you've had your ring destroyed."

 

[tiger_scott]

We all think of Nathan Cleary as the number 1 halfback in the game currently.
In 2019, the Panthers finished 10th/missed the finals. Nathan finished as their top try scorer and points scorer, so arguably their best player, even though they missed out.
In 2020, Api joins the team. Panthers finish minor premiers in 2020 and majors in 2021.
This same man joins us in 2023.
It may be a long bow to draw, but I think it is worth mentioning the difference a class dummy half makes to any team, he is afterall, the man that touches the ball the most in attack and likely the most tackling in the defence.
Would love to have seen the fortunes of the two teams/halfbacks if Api had have signed with us for 2020. I'm not saying we had the other cattle to achieve what Penrith have, but our position would most likely have been higher and theirs lower. It is just conjecture/theory on my part, I know, but is worth considering in the "Great Brooks Debate of Forever".

 

[westy81]

I don't understand what dragging the bloke down achieves. I'm sure the players would jump onto the forum every now and then.

Being articulate and coming up with an alternate option, sure. That's fine. But some of the vitriol on here towards him achieves nothing.

The only thing it does do is drag his confidence down (if he were to read it or opinions filter through to media), which only makes our team even worse. To argue that he should be bigger than that also, misses the point. These guys are human beings and can't avoid hits to confidence or attitude.

People who do that really have no view of achieving the best outcome for all of us as a team. It's unfiltered emotional rubbish, only achieving negatives.

The players would come on here I found out 1 player years ago that was on here, he wasn’t paying for the tigers at the time but was an ex tiger

He said something about himself that wasn’t to do with football so I googled it and it was a current NRL player

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Who or what is 'Frodo'?


The ring bearer in Lord of the Rings (A hobbit)

Sounds like an uncomfortable and fairly complex medical issue.

Hope he's OK.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Who did we play on the weekend and how badly did Brooks play to warrant this sudden urge to rehash the same bashing over and over again?

Agree.
Tiger supporters have been let down more than any other team's supporters and it's only natural that they have a scapegoat to heap the blame on.
Brooksey, who has not performed consistently over a long period now, will simply have to play incredibly well before opinions change in this forum.

I'd suggest he wouldn't be concerned about the handful of fans on this forum who blow in and out like flatuence to offer their biased and irrelevant opinions. Sheens stated he will be staying so it will be SNAFU.