Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I would mind Tupou or Feki in the team as i couldn't help but notice that everytime Thompson made a run he was forced back 5 meters by the defense.
 
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Don't think so - swap for the Huth maybe.

So you reckon Packer is better than Marty?

Read the post correctly - I want both.

Would you swap Packer for Taupau if given the opportunity?

Mayby - Mayby not

Taupau makes more meters and busts more tackles but he also makes a lot more errors and gives away a lot more penalties

Our style doesen't require our props to make lots of meters it requires them to defend, lead and hold the middle. Taupau would be wasted under that style and is Taupau worth changing the whole team

Packer has made 1 error and only given away 3 penalties all year whereas Taupau has 13 of both which means an extra 22 sets where we have to defend again

While Taupau extra attack migth be useful I think prop isn't where we need players.
 
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Kelly & big Marty would do nicely!

Would love Marty back , straight swap with Russel Packer would be fine with me.

Keep them both! Big Russell would be much better with another big angry man beside him.

**Sauaso Sue is starting to find some nice form , not sure if it's got to do with playing for a Contract ?** but him and Twal are a nice rotation for us .
I don't mind Packer but i've watched him closely this year and seems very lazy at times and gets gassed quite quickly . If it came to it i would much rather Marty but i don't think he would be coming to us anyway .

The word on here the last week has been that he's already signed with Parra. If true, you can't accuse him of only playing for a contract. Which i don't think is the case. He's been one of our best forwards for a long time, till he started struggling with HIA's. Suddenly he gets over them and is tearing it up again. I'll be very disappointed with the club if they chose not to retain him, or didn't try hard enough.
 
As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).
 
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So you reckon Packer is better than Marty?

Read the post correctly - I want both.

Would you swap Packer for Taupau if given the opportunity?

Mayby - Mayby not

Taupau makes more meters and busts more tackles but he also makes a lot more errors and gives away a lot more penalties

Our style doesen't require our props to make lots of meters it requires them to defend, lead and hold the middle. Taupau would be wasted under that style and is Taupau worth changing the whole team

Packer has made 1 error and only given away 3 penalties all year whereas Taupau has 13 of both which means an extra 22 sets where we have to defend again

While Taupau extra attack migth be useful I think prop isn't where we need players.

I would gladly take his errors and his penalties for what he produces on the field.

Taupau
Games – 18
Tackle Breaks – 74
PCM – 1018
Avg Hit Ups – 14
Offloads – 60
Tackles – 506
Tk Efficiency – 91.1%
Avg Metres – 165

Packer
Games – 14
Tackle Breaks – 3
PCM – 394
Avg Hit Ups – 7
Offloads – 3
Tackles – 408
Tk Efficiency – 87.5%
Avg Metres - 75
 
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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.
 
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Would love Marty back , straight swap with Russel Packer would be fine with me.

Keep them both! Big Russell would be much better with another big angry man beside him.

**Sauaso Sue is starting to find some nice form , not sure if it's got to do with playing for a Contract ?** but him and Twal are a nice rotation for us .
I don't mind Packer but i've watched him closely this year and seems very lazy at times and gets gassed quite quickly . If it came to it i would much rather Marty but i don't think he would be coming to us anyway .

The word on here the last week has been that he's already signed with Parra. If true, you can't accuse him of only playing for a contract. Which i don't think is the case. He's been one of our best forwards for a long time, till he started struggling with HIA's. Suddenly he gets over them and is tearing it up again. I'll be very disappointed with the club if they chose not to retain him, or didn't try hard enough.

He doesn't fit our style of front rower, he makes too many metres.
 
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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

No the other one doesen't do that. The other one turns the worst defensive side in the comp into one of the best. The other one makes no errors and doesen't give away penalties. The other one is the guy putting pressure on the kicker, the other one is always up their on kick chase, the other one is always backing up in defence and scrambling, the other one lets his wingers do the showy stuff while he holds the line.

Would I take Packer or Taupau - Packer
 
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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

No the other one doesen't do that. The other one turns the worst defensive side in the comp into one of the best. The other one makes no errors and doesen't give away penalties. The other one is the guy putting pressure on the kicker, the other one is always up their on kick chase, the other one is always backing up in defence and scrambling, the other one lets his wingers do the showy stuff while he holds the line.

Would I take Packer or Taupau - Packer

Fair enough. I don't think they're even in the same league personally, but each to their own.
 
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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

You do realise this is not NFL, and attack is only about 50% of the game right?
 
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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

You do realise this is not NFL, and attack is only about 50% of the game right?

Attack is only 50% of NFL games too..hence the offence and the defence…. you knew that right?

Taupau and Packer make around the same tackles per game so not sure what your point is exactly? The only difference is that Taupau does it over longer minutes and during that time runs for almost 100m more per game.

In a badly beaten team on the weekend, in 54 mins Taupau ran for 145m, 12 hitups and made 28 tackles, 1 missed. Packer played for 37 minutes for 65m, 9 hitups and made 22 tackles, for 4 missed.

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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

No the other one doesen't do that. The other one turns the worst defensive side in the comp into one of the best. The other one makes no errors and doesen't give away penalties. The other one is the guy putting pressure on the kicker, the other one is always up their on kick chase, the other one is always backing up in defence and scrambling, the other one lets his wingers do the showy stuff while he holds the line.

Would I take Packer or Taupau - Packer

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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

You do realise this is not NFL, and attack is only about 50% of the game right?

Attack is only 50% of NFL games too..hence the offence and the defence…. you knew that right?

Taupau and Packer make around the same tackles per game so not sure what your point is exactly? The only difference is that Taupau does it over longer minutes and during that time runs for almost 100m more per game.

In a badly beaten team on the weekend, in 54 mins Taupau ran for 145m, 12 hitups and made 28 tackles, 1 missed. Packer played for 37 minutes for 65m, 9 hitups and made 22 tackles, for 4 missed.

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Packers team won well, Taupau's team was thrashed - that is the difference.

To each his own Avo, to each his own.
 
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Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

You do realise this is not NFL, and attack is only about 50% of the game right?

Attack is only 50% of NFL games too..hence the offence and the defence…. you knew that right?

Taupau and Packer make around the same tackles per game so not sure what your point is exactly? The only difference is that Taupau does it over longer minutes and during that time runs for almost 100m more per game.

In a badly beaten team on the weekend, in 54 mins Taupau ran for 145m, 12 hitups and made 28 tackles, 1 missed. Packer played for 37 minutes for 65m, 9 hitups and made 22 tackles, for 4 missed.

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**Packers team won well, Taupau's team was thrashed - that is the difference.**

I didn't think you'd ever make a comment as ridiculous as when you said Lolohea>RTS, but you have. Congratulations.
 
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As we already have Packer and I think he is going well (still think he is playing injured) but despite that - no I wouldn't swap him for Taupau.

I would keep Packer and take Taupau or swap Huth for him (as I said).

Packer and Taupau are different types of Front rowers in my opinion, Packer is better for what we are doing now - but I would't say no to Taupau if he wanted to come to us for a reasonable figure (would not pay overs though).

Yes they are completely different types of front rowers, I agree. One plays big minutes, makes huge metres and breaks heaps of tackles. The other one doesn't.

You do realise this is not NFL, and attack is only about 50% of the game right?

Attack is only 50% of NFL games too..hence the offence and the defence…. you knew that right?

Taupau and Packer make around the same tackles per game so not sure what your point is exactly? The only difference is that Taupau does it over longer minutes and during that time runs for almost 100m more per game.

In a badly beaten team on the weekend, in 54 mins Taupau ran for 145m, 12 hitups and made 28 tackles, 1 missed. Packer played for 37 minutes for 65m, 9 hitups and made 22 tackles, for 4 missed.

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In this situation you are relying to heavily on stats to make you assessment, I would have Taupau back in a heartbeat but not at the expense of Packer.

Packer has been the glue that holds our defense together, it's not the amount of tackles its the quality and starch he brings to the defensive line. It not something I can pull out stats and show you its something you have to see. We have gone from being an extremely poor defensive unit to being one of the best in 12 months, Packer is a big reason for that. He is obviously a huge leader in our pack and the other players are also defending hard in an effort to not let him down, our younger forwards look to him for approval of a job well done.

I'm saying that from a person who didn't want our club to sign him due to mistakes he has made in the past.
 
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