Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[cochise]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

That's why I said they appear and I don't think.

I don't like to accuse people of cheating without proof, especially when we have been done for it.

Fair enough. I still advocate that we did not cheat. There was no intent to circumvent the rules in our actions.

Personally I have no qualms whatsoever in saying that I believe the Roosters to have been cheating for years now. And Souths, I believe they are best described as new comers to that side of the fence.

Raiders however, they're a good example I feel of a club which has been run professionally without cheating. They have done very well focusing on the English imports, probably the most successful club in recent times who don't appear to have any dodgy secrets hidden away. So they are a good example of a club being run professionally, of being successful, and doing it within the cap.

I think someone would have blown the whistle on them by now if it was happening.

 

[izotope]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Where is he gonna play?

 

[JC99]

We will be big movers in the player market for 2022. Turf Mbye the following year and another $900k presents itself.

We should be pushing for a 5-8 position in 2022 and similar/ better in 2023 if Madge is worth his salt.

don't put it past Doueihi to lock up the 6 in 2021 and we go into the market for other positions. he might be able to hold onto it until a player like Madden, Camroux or Tannous comes through. players like Burton and Schuster or even bigger fish like a Munster seem like a good idea, but we might have the answer to our halves already locked up.

He's the answer, no doubt about it

A good showing last week, he still has areas to work on. Lets see how he is going in the trials.

I hope he’s given a position and is kept there. Will do him no good moving him around, if he’s to play 5/8 next season whcih I think he should he needs to be there all season

Depends if he can show similar form in the trials, his defence still needs a lot of improvement.

I’ll give him some slack considering he defended at fullback all season long. Just needs to work on putting his body in front of his opposite man.

 

[JC99]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Don’t think anyone would be surprised. The only positive would be that we could throw more money at Grant if he’s available

 

[cochise]

We will be big movers in the player market for 2022. Turf Mbye the following year and another $900k presents itself.

We should be pushing for a 5-8 position in 2022 and similar/ better in 2023 if Madge is worth his salt.

don't put it past Doueihi to lock up the 6 in 2021 and we go into the market for other positions. he might be able to hold onto it until a player like Madden, Camroux or Tannous comes through. players like Burton and Schuster or even bigger fish like a Munster seem like a good idea, but we might have the answer to our halves already locked up.

He's the answer, no doubt about it

A good showing last week, he still has areas to work on. Lets see how he is going in the trials.

I hope he’s given a position and is kept there. Will do him no good moving him around, if he’s to play 5/8 next season whcih I think he should he needs to be there all season

Depends if he can show similar form in the trials, his defence still needs a lot of improvement.

I’ll give him some slack considering he defended at fullback all season long. Just needs to work on putting his body in front of his opposite man.

Lets see how he goes in the trials.

 

[JC99]

If Souths do sign JAC without getting rid of someone who’s on big money they need to be put in the roosters caliber of apparent cap rorting. I never like accusing teams of it but unless they free up someone there’s no possible way they can afford him unless he’s getting money on the side.

 

[avocadoontoast]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Don’t think anyone would be surprised. The only positive would be that we could throw more money at Grant if he’s available

If Grant has half a brain he won’t consider staying with us. He’s a wonderful player who deserves to play finals. Ain’t gonna happen at WT.

 

[Newtown]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

That's why I said they appear and I don't think.

I don't like to accuse people of cheating without proof, especially when we have been done for it.

Whatever we did was nothing like the rorts that are currently being played out.by other clubs.. An example would be Souths signing JAC without shedding any big price players.

 

[hsvjones]

If Souths do sign JAC without getting rid of someone who’s on big money they need to be put in the roosters caliber of apparent cap rorting. I never like accusing teams of it but unless they free up someone there’s no possible way they can afford him unless he’s getting money on the side.

I agree 100% .... Whats even more concerning is they just resigned AJ on apparently 200k less due to salary cap problems but all of a sudden pick up JAC... JAC might accept Min wage just for the love of it and wanting to play with his mates... :thinking_face: :thinking_face:
Even ex players at Roosters players make fun of the brown paper bags, Kids private schools paid for, memberships paid for at top Golf clubs, the list goes on.... But the honest club like us get penalised for offering a player that was leaving our club a job after he retires get shafted makes me sick.(I understand we did break the so called rules but gee wiz these big clubs don't get in trouble :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: )..

 

[Newtown]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Don’t think anyone would be surprised. The only positive would be that we could throw more money at Grant if he’s available

If Grant has half a brain he won’t consider staying with us. He’s a wonderful player who deserves to play finals. Ain’t gonna happen at WT.

Grant played with us this season and received plenty of accolades despite us not making the finals. In fact he is likely to play for Qyeensland in his first year rookie.season.

 

[cochise]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

That's why I said they appear and I don't think.

I don't like to accuse people of cheating without proof, especially when we have been done for it.

Whatever we did was nothing like the rorts that are currently being played out.by other clubs.. An example would be Souths signing JAC without shedding any big price players.

If they are cheating they will eventually be caught and I will lay the boot in then. Until then I will treat them as if they are playing within the rules.

 

[Newtown]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

That's why I said they appear and I don't think.

I don't like to accuse people of cheating without proof, especially when we have been done for it.

Whatever we did was nothing like the rorts that are currently being played out.by other clubs.. An example would be Souths signing JAC without shedding any big price players.

If they are cheating they will eventually be caught and I will lay the boot in then. Until then I will treat them as if they are playing within the rules.

If they are cheating it definitely won't be the NRL which catches them.

 

[avocadoontoast]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Don’t think anyone would be surprised. The only positive would be that we could throw more money at Grant if he’s available

If Grant has half a brain he won’t consider staying with us. He’s a wonderful player who deserves to play finals. Ain’t gonna happen at WT.

Grant played with us this season and received plenty of accolades despite us not making the finals. In fact he is likely to play for Qyeensland in his first year rookie.season.

As he should, he was our best player. But someone of his talent will not be content spending his career playing for a bottom 8 side. He’ll want more, like Tedesco did, and he’ll be able to pick and choose who he plays for.

 

[Aesopian]

If Souths do sign JAC without getting rid of someone who’s on big money they need to be put in the roosters caliber of apparent cap rorting. I never like accusing teams of it but unless they free up someone there’s no possible way they can afford him unless he’s getting money on the side.

I'm curious as to who Da Storms will be getting. No chance they assume Gagai's contract. And everyone else has been re-signed recently.

Not buying it tbh. Recency bias from the LM saga is making us overly paranoid. Harden up you muppets

 

[Telltails]

The salary cap allows the strong clubs to remain strong.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

Latrell
How would you like $1,100,000 to play for Wests Tigers
Hell no, I am playing for souths, they offered me $600,000
I don't believe that for a second
Either the so called reported figures are grossly false or someone is a fool

If players like Latrell sign with a club like souths for reasons other then money, what is the point of having a $9,500,000 cap
They may as well cut the cap down to $5,000,000 per club, that way each top player would earn less $ or need to look elsewhere to earn the big $
That should then spread the talent more evenly

 

[Tiger5150]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Don’t think anyone would be surprised. The only positive would be that we could throw more money at Grant if he’s available

If Grant has half a brain he won’t consider staying with us. He’s a wonderful player who deserves to play finals. ***Ain’t gonna happen at WT.***

Aint gonna happen....unless of course we get some players of Grants ability into the squad...see how it works?

 

[cochise]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

Latrell
How would you like $1,100,000 to play for Wests Tigers
Hell no, I am playing for souths, they offered me $600,000
I don't believe that for a second
Either the so called reported figures are grossly false or someone is a fool

If players like Latrell sign with a club like souths for reasons other then money, what is the point of having a $9,500,000 cap
They may as well cut the cap down to $5,000,000 per club, that way each top player would earn less $ or need to look elsewhere to earn the big $
That should then spread the talent more evenly

You not believing it is not proof though. As I said until there is proof I will treat them like they are under the cap.

 

[avocadoontoast]

FWIW a guy on the warren who was first to say they have Latrell is now saying Souths are getting JAC.

Don’t think anyone would be surprised. The only positive would be that we could throw more money at Grant if he’s available

If Grant has half a brain he won’t consider staying with us. He’s a wonderful player who deserves to play finals. ***Ain’t gonna happen at WT.***

Aint gonna happen....unless of course we get some players of Grants ability into the squad...see how it works?

We’ve been trying that without success for 9 years. Gets harder to attract talent each year you’re out of the finals.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Souths wouldn't have any cap room at all. Isn't the head burgi wanting to come back or was that for an English club?

Not sure if you have been hiding but South and Roosters don't have the standard Salary Caps.. They have a special one where they adjust as needed.. :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

They aren’t successful clubs because they rort the cap. They’re successful because they’re well run, smart and professional. We are none of those things.

It's hard to differentiate with those two clubs. Yes they are professionally run. And yes they appear to rort the cap. I don't think we've seen them being run professionally when they weren't cheating the cap.

There is no proof of that.

That's why I said they appear and I don't think.

I don't like to accuse people of cheating without proof, especially when we have been done for it.

If paying someone $600'000 to $700'000 to play for another club is cheating then we were dudded
We did not replace this player with a better player therefore we did not gain any advantage
This move was more based on team cohesion then any other matter
It was a clash of coach and player and it caused disharmony within the group
Unlike peptides (performance enhancing) or free boats to sign and keep the very best players, our offer to Robbie was more of a gesture in good faith, not to gain a competitive advantage
Unfortunately the league saw it differently
I would not call that cheating