Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[gallagher]

About time someone from the club spoke up, rather convenient our sponsor also sponsors the blues. Freddy might be a little uncomfortable now, and I hope the hell he is, idiot keeps taking pot shots at the club, people in glass houses Freddy old mate

I'm gonna guess that Freddy probably doesn't give a toss. Getting sponsors for NSW Origin isn't like getting sponsors for Cronulla or Bulldogs, they are lining up.

I think some of us fans just want to see some fight in the club, parra took our players then refused to release one back to us, I don’t have to go over all the other times we’ve been treated like a door mat, it’s refreshing to see the club say “don’t push us around”, I hope they keep challenging it.

There are counter-arguments.

One argument is that, in engaging with Fittler via media, Tigers have now confirmed that his comments are causing drama (aka "hitting the mark"). So Fittler is, in many ways, incentivised to dig at the Tigers again, because he's in the media and it will generate content.

Second argument is that posturing in the media is next to pointless. IIRC Tigers postured about Ryan Matterson's release as well, to basically no effect.

I'm glad you are heartened to hear Tigers are upset and they've got Lee to have some words, but that is about as effective as "having a chat with the referee's boss". Fittler isn't beholden to the Tigers, nor does he have any authority or influence over what Tigers do as an organisation.

It's the off-field activity that matters - the club's decisions and match results - not the exchange of words between an organisation and a media pundit.

To be clear however, I'm not against Tigers speaking out in the media, I just don't think it has any more weight than the original comments from Freddy. Fine, he thinks Tigers made a mistake; being frank we did make a mistake, but it was a complicated situation and ultimately it was the player's decision not the club's. It was quite a while ago now; Tigers really need to have moved on and not be suckered back into public debate by paid-for-comment morons.

If it was all just factual reports I’d agree to leave it alone but it’s relentless to the point of bullying. I was taught you gotta stick up for yourself when you’re being treated unfairly.

Where’s the story about Manly and Gutho? Sharks and Addo-Carr? Bulldogs and Finucane? Dragons and Cook, and so on and so forth. There is an agenda against WT which is damaging the brand and it needs to be addressed.

All those clubs have made the semis in recent times and have had origin reps at the club.
We've had a diabolical roster for years now and the media are only reporting on that, there's no agenda.

Not talking about us....

We are talking about fairness and evenness.

Where are the stories about the others and add Keary from Souffs?

There was no stories when he left souffs? Please

 

[avocadoontoast]

About time someone from the club spoke up, rather convenient our sponsor also sponsors the blues. Freddy might be a little uncomfortable now, and I hope the hell he is, idiot keeps taking pot shots at the club, people in glass houses Freddy old mate

I'm gonna guess that Freddy probably doesn't give a toss. Getting sponsors for NSW Origin isn't like getting sponsors for Cronulla or Bulldogs, they are lining up.

I think some of us fans just want to see some fight in the club, parra took our players then refused to release one back to us, I don’t have to go over all the other times we’ve been treated like a door mat, it’s refreshing to see the club say “don’t push us around”, I hope they keep challenging it.

There are counter-arguments.

One argument is that, in engaging with Fittler via media, Tigers have now confirmed that his comments are causing drama (aka "hitting the mark"). So Fittler is, in many ways, incentivised to dig at the Tigers again, because he's in the media and it will generate content.

Second argument is that posturing in the media is next to pointless. IIRC Tigers postured about Ryan Matterson's release as well, to basically no effect.

I'm glad you are heartened to hear Tigers are upset and they've got Lee to have some words, but that is about as effective as "having a chat with the referee's boss". Fittler isn't beholden to the Tigers, nor does he have any authority or influence over what Tigers do as an organisation.

It's the off-field activity that matters - the club's decisions and match results - not the exchange of words between an organisation and a media pundit.

To be clear however, I'm not against Tigers speaking out in the media, I just don't think it has any more weight than the original comments from Freddy. Fine, he thinks Tigers made a mistake; being frank we did make a mistake, but it was a complicated situation and ultimately it was the player's decision not the club's. It was quite a while ago now; Tigers really need to have moved on and not be suckered back into public debate by paid-for-comment morons.

If it was all just factual reports I’d agree to leave it alone but it’s relentless to the point of bullying. I was taught you gotta stick up for yourself when you’re being treated unfairly.

Where’s the story about Manly and Gutho? Sharks and Addo-Carr? Bulldogs and Finucane? Dragons and Cook, and so on and so forth. There is an agenda against WT which is damaging the brand and it needs to be addressed.

All those clubs have made the semis in recent times and have had origin reps at the club.
We've had a diabolical roster for years now and the media are only reporting on that, there's no agenda.

Not talking about us....

We are talking about fairness and evenness.

Where are the stories about the others and add Keary from Souffs?

There was no stories when he left souffs? Please

It was covered extensively at the time and and the year following.

 

[jirskyr]

About time someone from the club spoke up, rather convenient our sponsor also sponsors the blues. Freddy might be a little uncomfortable now, and I hope the hell he is, idiot keeps taking pot shots at the club, people in glass houses Freddy old mate

I'm gonna guess that Freddy probably doesn't give a toss. Getting sponsors for NSW Origin isn't like getting sponsors for Cronulla or Bulldogs, they are lining up.

I think some of us fans just want to see some fight in the club, parra took our players then refused to release one back to us, I don’t have to go over all the other times we’ve been treated like a door mat, it’s refreshing to see the club say “don’t push us around”, I hope they keep challenging it.

There are counter-arguments.

One argument is that, in engaging with Fittler via media, Tigers have now confirmed that his comments are causing drama (aka "hitting the mark"). So Fittler is, in many ways, incentivised to dig at the Tigers again, because he's in the media and it will generate content.

Second argument is that posturing in the media is next to pointless. IIRC Tigers postured about Ryan Matterson's release as well, to basically no effect.

I'm glad you are heartened to hear Tigers are upset and they've got Lee to have some words, but that is about as effective as "having a chat with the referee's boss". Fittler isn't beholden to the Tigers, nor does he have any authority or influence over what Tigers do as an organisation.

It's the off-field activity that matters - the club's decisions and match results - not the exchange of words between an organisation and a media pundit.

To be clear however, I'm not against Tigers speaking out in the media, I just don't think it has any more weight than the original comments from Freddy. Fine, he thinks Tigers made a mistake; being frank we did make a mistake, but it was a complicated situation and ultimately it was the player's decision not the club's. It was quite a while ago now; Tigers really need to have moved on and not be suckered back into public debate by paid-for-comment morons.

If it was all just factual reports I’d agree to leave it alone but it’s relentless to the point of bullying. I was taught you gotta stick up for yourself when you’re being treated unfairly.

Where’s the story about Manly and Gutho? Sharks and Addo-Carr? Bulldogs and Finucane? Dragons and Cook, and so on and so forth. There is an agenda against WT which is damaging the brand and it needs to be addressed.

The agenda is that you read the comments, get incensed, and talk and talk about it. Manly for example doesn't generate heat because nobody cares what Manly does, their fanbase and membership is small compared to Tigers and they don't generate clicks the way Tigers do. Sharks are the same.

The media is constantly trolling Tigers fans to get more eyes on their product, and it's especially easy because Tigers simply don't win enough football matches to remove the ammunition. In Brisbane it's all about Broncos, despite their woeful season.

There would be more positive stories about Tigers if we won more, it's that simple. The more you lose the more negative stories you get, which makes complete sense.

Bulldogs do cop a lot of heat - an absolute bundle of it. They basically even have their own radio show Talking Bulldogs. Souths also generate heat, so do Parramatta and Dragons. No surprise these are the highest-followed clubs in Sydney.

 

[Thaiger]

Great news - 2 young gun players. Both are rated highly - Kei in particular is a beast.

Well done Warren McDonald.

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2020/10/31/two-players-added-to-2021-development-squad/

Thaiger, do you have any news on young players we have recruited?

The Balmain SG Ball team have a couple of likely prospects. I posted a couple of links. The young centre from Sawtell looks a real gem, being very quick and runs it hard. His name is Malakhi Donovan. I recall Donovan being a famous footballing family on the North Coast.

I don't really have any other news @pawsandclaws1 . Given uncertainty about the bubble, whether there will be a Canterbury Cup competition next year & having spoken to a player manager recently he said that a number of clubs have not even signed any Cup players yet.

Everything is up in the air a fair bit but at least we have moved to sign some development players who will be able to be in the bubble and train.

Most likely there will be a 21s comp, so some of the JF from the past 2 seasons and any other signings should at least see them get some game time assuming they are resigned.

 

[JD Tiger]

About time someone from the club spoke up, rather convenient our sponsor also sponsors the blues. Freddy might be a little uncomfortable now, and I hope the hell he is, idiot keeps taking pot shots at the club, people in glass houses Freddy old mate

I'm gonna guess that Freddy probably doesn't give a toss. Getting sponsors for NSW Origin isn't like getting sponsors for Cronulla or Bulldogs, they are lining up.

I think some of us fans just want to see some fight in the club, parra took our players then refused to release one back to us, I don’t have to go over all the other times we’ve been treated like a door mat, it’s refreshing to see the club say “don’t push us around”, I hope they keep challenging it.

There are counter-arguments.

One argument is that, in engaging with Fittler via media, Tigers have now confirmed that his comments are causing drama (aka "hitting the mark"). So Fittler is, in many ways, incentivised to dig at the Tigers again, because he's in the media and it will generate content.

Second argument is that posturing in the media is next to pointless. IIRC Tigers postured about Ryan Matterson's release as well, to basically no effect.

I'm glad you are heartened to hear Tigers are upset and they've got Lee to have some words, but that is about as effective as "having a chat with the referee's boss". Fittler isn't beholden to the Tigers, nor does he have any authority or influence over what Tigers do as an organisation.

It's the off-field activity that matters - the club's decisions and match results - not the exchange of words between an organisation and a media pundit.

To be clear however, I'm not against Tigers speaking out in the media, I just don't think it has any more weight than the original comments from Freddy. Fine, he thinks Tigers made a mistake; being frank we did make a mistake, but it was a complicated situation and ultimately it was the player's decision not the club's. It was quite a while ago now; Tigers really need to have moved on and not be suckered back into public debate by paid-for-comment morons.

If it was all just factual reports I’d agree to leave it alone but it’s relentless to the point of bullying. I was taught you gotta stick up for yourself when you’re being treated unfairly.

Where’s the story about Manly and Gutho? Sharks and Addo-Carr? Bulldogs and Finucane? Dragons and Cook, and so on and so forth. There is an agenda against WT which is damaging the brand and it needs to be addressed.

The agenda is that you read the comments, get incensed, and talk and talk about it. Manly for example doesn't generate heat because nobody cares what Manly does, their fanbase and membership is small compared to Tigers and they don't generate clicks the way Tigers do. Sharks are the same.

The media is constantly trolling Tigers fans to get more eyes on their product, and it's especially easy because Tigers simply don't win enough football matches to remove the ammunition. In Brisbane it's all about Broncos, despite their woeful season.

Bulldogs do cop a lot of heat - an absolute bundle of it. They basically even have their own radio show Talking Bulldogs. Souths also generate heat, so do Parramatta and Dragons. No surprise these are the highest-followed clubs in Sydney.

I don't know, I personally am so sick of the rubbish that comes out of these papers that I don't even read a story now if it's from the Daily Telegraph/Fox. I see a headline/notification on my phone, and then I come here to the forum to read about what's going on.

So they need to be careful they don't keep going too far and push more people like me away from their product altogether.

 

[jirskyr]

I wonder if the WTs intend to inquire about Teddy.They should at the very least pick up the phone. Find it very interesting that the Roosters seem far more interested in focussing on Sualli.

Tedesco said in the paper he has no interest fielding offers from any club apart from Roosters - direct quote.

Whether or not that's true will be seen, because they haven't yet announced that contract extension at Roosters and Tedesco can be approached for 2022 onwards.

But the Roosters "look after" their boys and that's one of the reasons nobody is in a hurry to leave, because aside from the documented salary, the players know the club will make it worth their while on the side.

 

[jirskyr]

@MichaelChammas
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BREAKING: Penrith cult hero Josh Mansour appears to have played his final game for his beloved Panthers after being told he would not start next season in first grade.

Brutal, after making the GF and breaking his face the year before.

BUT Panthers have backs up the wazoo and that's why they aren't releasing them all I guess.

 

[jirskyr]

There has been speculation that Roberts, 27, would quit his $550,000-a-year Rabbitohs deal for a number of months.

Why would he walk away from the deal? Roberts has had extensive mental health issues and he's going to need to bank every contract left to him in rugby league, because I imagine this could be the end of his career.

He joined Souths for a reason and deserves his payout, if only to set himself up for the rest of his life. And Souths owe it to him to honour that in particular, because Roberts is one of those players that needs extra support.

 

[JD Tiger]

There has been speculation that Roberts, 27, would quit his $550,000-a-year Rabbitohs deal for a number of months.

Why would he walk away from the deal? Roberts has had extensive mental health issues and he's going to need to bank every contract left to him in rugby league, because I imagine this could be the end of his career.

He joined Souths for a reason and deserves his payout, if only to set himself up for the rest of his life. And Souths owe it to him to honour that in particular, because Roberts is one of those players that needs extra support.

I can't see any way conceivable realistic way that he would walk from $550k, without being compensated his money by other means (outside of the salary cap). Another example of blatant behaviour that would be cheating should this be an even competiton.

Maybe my bias though is clouding my judgement, it's possible. Can anyone else see a possible reason?

 

[Milky]

Mansour would be an astute pick up.

Mansour and Nofa on the wings.

JAC at the back.

Leilua/Talau in the centres.

Power and speed.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Mansour would be an astute pick up.

Mansour and Nofa on the wings.

JAC at the back.

Leilua/Talau in the centres.

Power and speed.

It would be the slowest wing combination in the history if slow wingers. Leilua exacerbates the lack of pace.

 

[voice_of_reason]

I can't see any way conceivable realistic way that he would walk from $550k, without being compensated his money by other means (outside of the salary cap).

I'm wondering if something untoward has happened and he's been asked to leave. Similar to when an employee does something worthy of dismissal but they're given the opportunity to hand in a resignation.

Pure speculation of course, but could be an explanation.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

I know its not a signing but Dylan Walker has been charged over an alleged assault.

 

[JD Tiger]

I can't see any way conceivable realistic way that he would walk from $550k, without being compensated his money by other means (outside of the salary cap).

I'm wondering if something untoward has happened and he's been asked to leave. Similar to when an employee does something worthy of dismissal but they're given the opportunity to hand in a resignation.

Pure speculation of course, but could be an explanation.

True, that's a possibility. If true, that's morally bad of Souths to do that, but it would not be cheating or breaking any rules.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I can't see any way conceivable realistic way that he would walk from $550k, without being compensated his money by other means (outside of the salary cap).

I'm wondering if something untoward has happened and he's been asked to leave. Similar to when an employee does something worthy of dismissal but they're given the opportunity to hand in a resignation.

Pure speculation of course, but could be an explanation.

It would be required to be reported to the Unit?

 

[jadtiger]

I can't see any way conceivable realistic way that he would walk from $550k, without being compensated his money by other means (outside of the salary cap).

I'm wondering if something untoward has happened and he's been asked to leave. Similar to when an employee does something worthy of dismissal but they're given the opportunity to hand in a resignation.

Pure speculation of course, but could be an explanation.

It would be required to be reported to the Unit?

Souffs have a long history of not reporting things.

 

[Aesopian]

**From the scummy Warren**:hankey: :hankey: :hankey: :hankey: :hankey: :hankey:

**RustysRusty**
"Not sure how accurate this is but apparently Jimmy breached his contract multiple times and is actually getting the sack. Close relationship with WB and the staff so we are putting it out there that he is choosing to walk away after being told he is free to go due to salary cap constraints.

Club wants to give him a chance at securing another deal elsewhere and if it gets out that he got the sack it’d hinder those chances. Again not sure how accurate that is i’ve read it in a few different places though."

Big LOL:joy: :joy: :joy: sure it's a big secret if souffs scum are talking about it on their own forum hahaha

In reply:

**GlobalRabbit**
"That’s is essentially accurate. The club is trying to give him as soft a landing as possible, that is why you wont see us trying to get involved in any discussions he has with other clubs going forward, even though he had a contract with us for 2021. His entire 2021 salary will also be off our cap."

LOL again. In whichever universe this is possible we'd be well within our rights to punt Packer & Jrey as well. And their cap for the final year wouldn't apply...

 

[cqtiger]

There has been speculation that Roberts, 27, would quit his $550,000-a-year Rabbitohs deal for a number of months.

Why would he walk away from the deal? Roberts has had extensive mental health issues and he's going to need to bank every contract left to him in rugby league, because I imagine this could be the end of his career.

He joined Souths for a reason and deserves his payout, if only to set himself up for the rest of his life. And Souths owe it to him to honour that in particular, because Roberts is one of those players that needs extra support.

Well it worked for Inglis.

Now Inglis is playing top flight footy in England and getting paid well again.

Until the NRL come down on this sort of thing it will continue. Rort with a capital R.

 

[Telltails]

I wonder if the WTs intend to inquire about Teddy.They should at the very least pick up the phone. Find it very interesting that the Roosters seem far more interested in focussing on Sualli.

Tedesco said in the paper he has no interest fielding offers from any club apart from Roosters - direct quote.

Whether or not that's true will be seen, because they haven't yet announced that contract extension at Roosters and Tedesco can be approached for 2022 onwards.

But the Roosters "look after" their boys and that's one of the reasons nobody is in a hurry to leave, because aside from the documented salary, the players know the club will make it worth their while on the side.

I think the Roosters look after themselves first and foremost and if you want to stay there you March to their drum. I'm not sure Teddy is that sort of guy - especially when this contract is likely to be his most lucrative given his age and where he is at in his career.

 

[the_third]

Mansour would be an astute pick up.

Mansour and Nofa on the wings.

JAC at the back.

Leilua/Talau in the centres.

Power and speed.

Mansauce is retiring is the word from panthers mates. Not sure how true it is though. As others have said, he’s way too slow and expensive for us