Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TigerWest]

Its not just Madge,but the whole management,training,recruitement and development staff we have now that will lift West Tigers .Even though its early days,the professionalism is showing through.Madge did not have this level of support previously,we are now reaping the rewards from signing key personnel.

What I like about what we are doing now is that it isn't reliant on one person, it is a group of people which gives us more redundancy in our processes. That is important if we lose a coach or a general manager for example, we aren't turning around and starting from scratch again.

Exactly, the days of the Cleary debacles are over.

 

[bleedorange]

@THE_POM @CCTW what’s the latest with Nofa?

 

[Speed2burn]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism


Luke winning the halfback Dally M in 2018 based on five tries, 10 try assists, 15 line-break assists is hardly star-studded stats. It was a weak field and he was the best of an average bunch

I like Luke but he’s definitely not proven to be a top 5 halfback or leader over his 7 year career

The writing is on the wall, he needs to show up in 2021 or shuffle on

Boring stats such as repeat sets & 1 on 1 tackles aren’t highlighted though which were his bread and butter that year. Whether you think it was a weak year or not, it will go down in history books as him being the dally m half that year

 

[Leck]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism


Luke winning the halfback Dally M in 2018 based on five tries, 10 try assists, 15 line-break assists is hardly star-studded stats. It was a weak field and he was the best of an average bunch

I like Luke but he’s definitely not proven to be a top 5 halfback or leader over his 7 year career

The writing is on the wall, he needs to show up in 2021 or shuffle on

Boring stats such as repeat sets & 1 on 1 tackles aren’t highlighted though which were his bread and butter that year. Whether you think it was a weak year or not, it will go down in history books as him being the dally m half that year

Yeah sure, but like I said he needs to show up this year because he hasn’t the last two

We need him to lead from the front, however I just don’t think he has it in him

Hope he proves me wrong

 

[boonboon]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism


Luke winning the halfback Dally M in 2018 based on five tries, 10 try assists, 15 line-break assists is hardly star-studded stats. It was a weak field and he was the best of an average bunch

I like Luke but he’s definitely not proven to be a top 5 halfback or leader over his 7 year career

The writing is on the wall, he needs to show up in 2021 or shuffle on

Boring stats such as repeat sets & 1 on 1 tackles aren’t highlighted though which were his bread and butter that year. Whether you think it was a weak year or not, it will go down in history books as him being the dally m half that year

Yeah sure, but like I said he needs to show up this year because he hasn’t the last two

We need him to lead from the front, however I just don’t think he has it in him

2019 was his best year better then his dally m winning one. 2020 wasnt good but I put a lot of it down to not dealing with covid
Hope he proves me wrong

 

[Cairnstigers]

Aloiai is overrated his defence is the problem I rate all the above players better than him.

RCG agrees

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Must admit I find myself lurking in The Kennel for a good laugh every now and then but can now see the interest in other team forums. It is quite funny to see other supporter bases lose their minds over us(our club) for once.
Shout out to the person who tagged the url/link.
https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/rumoured-and-confirmed-signings-part-4.455990/page-1738#post-14480696

Interesting link and a good read, being targeted since Ivan left not sure that's correct but sounds like Laurie a good signing.
Interesting bagging Pascoe and tick to Lee & Madge.

 

[tiger_one]

Must admit I find myself lurking in The Kennel for a good laugh every now and then but can now see the interest in other team forums. It is quite funny to see other supporter bases lose their minds over us(our club) for once.
Shout out to the person who tagged the url/link.
https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/rumoured-and-confirmed-signings-part-4.455990/page-1738#post-14480696

Interesting link and a good read, being targeted since Ivan left not sure that's correct but sounds like Laurie a good signing.
Interesting bagging Pascoe and tick to Lee & Madge.

Probably sour grapes due to Pascoe once working for the Panthers.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Just wanted to say how good is our front row rotation looking?
Tamou
Musgrove
Stefano
Twal
Ofahengaue
Mikaele
Packer
(Not to mention any of the younger lads coming through).
When Aloiai initially agitated for his release I thought we could be in strife, now I'm not sure that we even fit him in? Going to be an interesting season to say the least.

Packer ???:thinking_face:

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

 

[BalmainJnr]

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

That would be incredibly stupid. I have faith in Hartigan not to go down that path.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Saw a photo of bj Leilua on twitter today, jesus christ the dude has changed so much, highly recommend everyone go have a lookie

Post it please dude?

Fit joey


First time i have ever seen BJ look cut
Let's hope that gives him more confidence to trample over his opposition

I read in an article the exact same thing happened when he joined Canberra. His first year there he was unfit and struggled, came back the next year cut a heap of weight and got fit and was dally m centre. He’s such a damaging ball runner, hopefully fixing his weight and mobility fixes his defence too.

When do you say enough? Wouldn't it be preferable to put our long term option in the centre and stick with him?

I think he’ll be good for us next year and if he’s playing good enough he’s gotta be in the team. Hard to know if Roberts will play and Talau could play wing or centre.

Pretty much regardless of contracts and age whoever’s playing the best should be starting and I think it’ll be Joey combining well with Doueihi on that right edge

Physical fitness and pyschological makeup are the difference between an outstanding player and the weakest link. Why do WTs believe they are different to the Raiders, Newcastle or the Roosters?

Covid is not going away. While overseas arrivals continue, the risk of the infection into the community is real. We may not see our families at Christmas and I would not be surprised if a bubble is not being planned for next season. So what will change?

None of what you said made sense. Literally nothing. Like what dyu even mean here?

"Physical fitness and pyschological makeup are the difference between an outstanding player and the weakest link. Why do WTs believe they are different to the Raiders, Newcastle or the Roosters?"

Lmao

It's pretty clear and one poster has responded. Like what don't you understand?

Paws, I rate you cos you seem very sure of yourself. But read the last few posts. The translations getting lost a bit.
Something I noticed about you, your hell bent on hating players immediately. Nofa, Bj, Luciano.

Also look at the rating on your last few posts, cos they are in the negatives mate, "specially the post in question"

regardless lets banter, I'll always be down.

I can't recall ever writing a negative post about Luciano.

Leilua J has been an extremely poor buy, so against the youth approach we have adopted.

My view on Nofoaluma is clear so I don't need to repeat it.

As for recruitment, I like to read Sir Alex Fergusons approach and note the synergies between him having little money and investing what he did have in youth and the WTs' approach.

https://www.opustalentsolutions.com/blog-news-and-social/sir-alex-fergusons-talent-strategy-how-to-build-a-successful-team

Usually , I am fairly positive towards the Club but this is a forum so views will differ. As for negative reps, who cares.

He was obviously a great man manager re..."Fergie would reserve the 'hairdryer' for players he knew could take it, treating others differently, perhaps offering a few quiet words of encouragement"
I would love to be a fly on the wall at Madge's team meetings to see how he handles various players in Our Team.

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Magpies,

This is a great article about Sir Alex's use of psychology interestingly directed towards referees, other managers and players. His capacity to change gameplans to target the psychological weaknesses of an individual player opposing MU is outstanding.

I never fail to be fascinated by his attention to detail and understanding that some of his stars never received the 'hair dryer' treatment if they didn't perform. He knew they would perform when needed.

A friend in the US advised many of the professional sports make prospective recruits undergo psychological assessment to ensure they are suitable for recruitment. I know one question asked by at least one baseball team to rcruits is 'Do you want to play for us?' If the answer isno then the process ends.

Thanks for your feedback.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11980422/fergies-mind-games-dont-let-vieira-ref-the-match

Gees, I reckon asking dorothy dix's like that is pretty heavy profiling :upside_down_face: :left-facing_fist: :joy:

@Magpies1963
Are you sure you didn't pick up the Fruitloops by mistake ?
It could be time for you to visit Specsavers?
Now @pawsandclaws1
psychological assessments ?
These players get paid to do a job
For most if not all, a job they love
Now just get out there and do your job, and be the best you can at it
There would not be many jobs that require a psychological assessment
Maybe those who carry firearms or who need to deal with death
Eg, police doctors nurses fireman defence forces

For team sports it is a mix of ability, belief and effort that is required to win
It is unlocking those abilities and putting it all together on the field with your team mates that will breed success
And of course a good game plan, which is where the coach comes in

Finding a players weakness and targeting that weakness is fare game
As long as it is not slanderous but more physical or the lack of understanding the game
I would love to see the game go back to a natural war of attrition along with lots of ball movement
Let's bring some real excitement back into the game

 

[bigsiro]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism


Luke winning the halfback Dally M in 2018 based on five tries, 10 try assists, 15 line-break assists is hardly star-studded stats. It was a weak field and he was the best of an average bunch

I like Luke but he’s definitely not proven to be a top 5 halfback or leader over his 7 year career

The writing is on the wall, he needs to show up in 2021 or shuffle on

Completely agree. But I think he’s had more than his chance already. I was a massive Brooks fan, but he isn’t the guy I thought he’d become.
Brooks is a good guy who had potential but never got there.
I wish he did.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

It was a weak field

Yeah, some weak field - he actually also came 3rd in the entire Competition.

29 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
27 Kalyn Ponga
26 Luke Brooks
25 Valentine Holmes
23 Mitchell Pearce
19 Jason Taumalolo
19 Cameron Munster
18 Ashley Taylor
18 Damien Cook
18 Issac Luke

 

[compensate]

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

Say whaaaat? Where did you hear this?

 

[happy_tiger]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism

Maybe the reason we have no Dally M players is because of Brooks ......


Didn't Latrell say he didn't want to be our Marquee player .....gives you his opinion on Brooks ...I'm not saying LM's word is be all and end all ... ...even JAC thinks he is better off playing behind a 2 game veteran ......how many other players who rely on tries and try assists think the same about Brooks .....

Even during our golden period of 09-11 we couldn’t sign anybody so that is a myth. Who was our biggest signing? (Apart from Ellis)

Tuqiri .....Wade McKinnon .....Matt Head ....Andrew Fifita .....Adam Blair and Gareth Ellis

Tuqiri was a huge get but McKinnon and Head were scrapheap and Fifita was a junior.

MacKinnon still had it ..unfortunately his Hammies didn't ...when he was fit he played well for us ....Fifita's actually came from the Roosters via Griffith from memory

 

[happy_tiger]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism

Maybe the reason we have no Dally M players is because of Brooks ......


Didn't Latrell say he didn't want to be our Marquee player .....gives you his opinion on Brooks ...I'm not saying LM's word is be all and end all ... ...even JAC thinks he is better off playing behind a 2 game veteran ......how many other players who rely on tries and try assists think the same about Brooks .....

Even during our golden period of 09-11 we couldn’t sign anybody so that is a myth. Who was our biggest signing? (Apart from Ellis)

Lote

We had a heap of talented juniors coming through .....Woods , Fifita from the Roosters ,Tedesco , Nofa ,Lui , Dwyer , Groat looked the part ...with the players we had we really didn't need too many players

 

[avocadoontoast]

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

Hard to imagine a more stupid turn of events if true

 

[happy_tiger]

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

Hard to imagine a more stupid turn of events if true

I was reading his article about why he has turned his back on the Cows offer and the ESL contract and thought to myself ..._Surely not "

 

[cochise]

Question: would people rather Widdop (1y)/Noffa (3y) or Laurie (4y)/Mansour(2y). If I had to choose I would probably take Laurie/Mansour

Hard call. Both scenarios have upside and downside.
On Nofoaluma, I really want him to re-sign as I value loyalty but if I’m honest, as footballers I thing him and mansour are interchangeable

Certainly not sure of why, but Nofo hasn’t seemed to be showing loyalty atm?

But I do think wingers are the easiest position to change, quick blokes are coming through every day.

I’ve heard Nofoaluma is getting itchy feet about wanting to play semi final footy and also thinks his value has gone up. You could call that disloyal but you could also call it fair. I think we are heading towards finals footy but we regressed on field in 2020 and maybe he’s had enough. I hope he stays though.

One hot season and he's out to play semis? He's the only other long term player aside from Brooks that can be associated with the repeated past failures. Bit rich to have good season and then start getting bullish about wanting finals footy. If that's his attitude he can go. Stay and build something here, or do a Tedesco/Moses/Woods and parachute into an already successful outfit. Good luck.

There is a reason why this club has not played finals in 10 seasons ..Nofoaluma should sign or move on ,obviously has tickets on himself ,wIngers are a dime a dozen Bigger / faster and can tackle ! Brooks
**will be lucky to see out the full season in the top grade.**

How about instead of bashing our halfback we support him...how many dally m position awards have we got in our current squad? Exactly

In a season where basically only nofa and Luciano had a good year, Brooks seems to be the common go to man for criticism

Maybe the reason we have no Dally M players is because of Brooks ......


Didn't Latrell say he didn't want to be our Marquee player .....gives you his opinion on Brooks ...I'm not saying LM's word is be all and end all ... ...even JAC thinks he is better off playing behind a 2 game veteran ......how many other players who rely on tries and try assists think the same about Brooks .....

Even during our golden period of 09-11 we couldn’t sign anybody so that is a myth. Who was our biggest signing? (Apart from Ellis)

Lote

We had a heap of talented juniors coming through .....Woods , Fifita from the Roosters ,Tedesco , Nofa ,Lui , Dwyer , Groat looked the part ...with the players we had we really didn't need too many players

Spot on mate, I said in a previous post that in that 10-12 period we had one of the better rosters in the comp and really should have claimed our second premiership.