Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Souths got a lot of bang for their dollars last season with Trell. Looked and played like a Teletubby for the first couple of months than started to hits some form and than got injured..season done.

When he is on, he is up there with the best, but you never never know when he is going to deliver.

I doubt we would even be making a telephone call to his manager
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299604) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299598) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299215) said:
That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!
 
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299671) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299604) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299598) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299215) said:
That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

It doesn't work like that.
 
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299671) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299604) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299598) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299215) said:
That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

I'm not sure it matters, TBH. The other clubs would know if we are chasing a player, through the players manager and the media would find out or make it up anyway.
 
Risky business from Latrell chasing short term deals just so he can hop from club to club demanding huge pay increases each time.
A career-ending injury and he would then be rueing not signing a long-term, mega-money deal.
The bloke wouldn't be interested in buying into team ethos, he is 110% all about himself. Decent player but we don't need anymore prima-donna types with massive tickets on themselves.
 
@leichhardttiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299661) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299634) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299604) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299598) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299215) said:
That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

Madge should just coach,and leave recruitment and statements to the experts,thats what they were brought to the club for,and it is working.

Maybe it was part of the Plan. To help McInnes destabilise Saints!

I don't think that they need much help.
 
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299670) said:
Souths got a lot of bang for their dollars last season with Trell. Looked and played like a Teletubby for the first couple of months than started to hits some form and than got injured..season done.

When he is on, he is up there with the best, but you never never know when he is going to deliver.

I doubt we would even be making a telephone call to his manager

15 clubs interested but we are not one of them
Wouldn't give him the time of day after the last circus
 
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299675) said:
Risky business from Latrell chasing short term deals just so he can hop from club to club demanding huge pay increases each time.
A career-ending injury and he would then be rueing not signing a long-term, mega-money deal.
The bloke wouldn't be interested in buying into team ethos, he is 110% all about himself. Decent player but we don't need anymore prima-donna types with massive tickets on themselves.

The guy listens to the garbage coming out of Mundines mouth, enough said there and then. I wouldnt be touching him with a barge pole and i doubt we will even entertain him.
 
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

I will take a guess on a bolter, Michael Chee Kam.
 
I'll tell you one player that makes me sad to to see play well at another club, Tevita Tatola. Still couldn't believe we let him go.

Just signed a big deal with souffs
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299673) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299671) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299604) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299598) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299215) said:
That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

It doesn't work like that.

It works like that in AFL because the Victorian media hitched their wagon to the AFL years , ago , especially around the super league time .
Because of all the bull crap at the turn of the century , and the disjointed nature of clubs , and all the governing bodies , the power dynamic is not the same . And to be honest , I get how bad it is that the media write stories about us not signing players etc. I kind of prefer that to the AFL model .
Where the media cover up , PED scandals , rape allegations , drug addiction , racism etc .
It’s an extremely toxic relationship in Victoria.
 
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299675) said:
Risky business from Latrell chasing short term deals just so he can hop from club to club demanding huge pay increases each time.
A career-ending injury and he would then be rueing not signing a long-term, mega-money deal.
The bloke wouldn't be interested in buying into team ethos, he is 110% all about himself. Decent player but we don't need anymore prima-donna types with massive tickets on themselves.

I reckon Latrine .. ooops I mean Latrell will be heading back to the Rorters and play back in centres .. !!
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299635) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299632) said:
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.
 
@coivtny said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299688) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299635) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299632) said:
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.

I don’t agree with that, but we will have to wait and see.
 
@coivtny said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299688) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299635) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299632) said:
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine
 
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299693) said:
@coivtny said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299688) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299635) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299632) said:
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

I hate bagging players. I reckon anyone who makes first grade has amazing talent but Mbye just leaves me cold. He seems to totally lack passion. I'm glad he's not captain because I've never seen a more disengaged captain than him. I just wish we had a quality fullback or can get Laurie for the coming season. Fullback is a critical spine position and I don't think Mbye is up to it. Hope I'm proved wrong.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299673) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299671) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299604) said:
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299598) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299215) said:
That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

It doesn't work like that.

Tell me if you can, how it does work.
Why does the media have so much leverage over only a select few clubs?
Why do other clubs get away with silence until an official announcement is made.

If your going to tell me well because we aren’t one of the strong clubs and don’t have the relations to ensure favourable press.

We’ll explain to me how a basket case club like the bulldogs can get away with no misreporting until an offical announcement was made. Tigers have been linked to JAC the whole time then as soon as JAC said it’s not happening it was silence everywhere until an offical announcement.

The bulldogs used to have high influence with the likes of Ray Dib but he is no longer on their board.
In fact outside of the football team which is often gloated about the football club is reported as a shambles but yet media likes and players still flock to them.

We can’t get a favourable report from our very own James Hooper. Paid member and fan of the Tigers’s. Have the club shut him out so, now anything that doesn’t come his way he has a grind against?
 
@coivtny said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299688) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299635) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299632) said:
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.

Well if that is your opinion don't expect to be in the 8.
 
@coivtny said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299688) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299635) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299632) said:
@truetiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1299624) said:
I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.

I look at it the complete opposite. With the way our roster stands now, if Mbye is not our fullback for most of the year we can't make the 8. If he gets injured or is performing poorly, there is no one to replace him. He is the only fullback we have.
 

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