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@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
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I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
@innsaneink said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308765) said:pointless thread
@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308787) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
Happy ,who do you want ? Who’s out there that fits the Bill? Especially if the club has trained all offseason with certain kids positioned as the starters .
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308793) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308787) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
Happy ,who do you want ? Who’s out there that fits the Bill? Especially if the club has trained all offseason with certain kids positioned as the starters .
I'd prefer we back a junior who we think has a lot of potential who we snatched from another club ....I just don't see what a 24 year with virtually no experience brings to the squad ......
Pick the right kid (and this is supposedly Hartigan's strength ) and the junior will probably surpass Amone's abilities by seasons end and be much younger ...sorry the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308793) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308787) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
Happy ,who do you want ? Who’s out there that fits the Bill? Especially if the club has trained all offseason with certain kids positioned as the starters .
I'd prefer we back a junior who we think has a lot of potential who we snatched from another club ....I just don't see what a 24 year with virtually no experience brings to the squad ......
Pick the right kid (and this is supposedly Hartigan's strength ) and the junior will probably surpass Amone's abilities by seasons end and be much younger ...sorry the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308813) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308793) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308787) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
Happy ,who do you want ? Who’s out there that fits the Bill? Especially if the club has trained all offseason with certain kids positioned as the starters .
I'd prefer we back a junior who we think has a lot of potential who we snatched from another club ....I just don't see what a 24 year with virtually no experience brings to the squad ......
Pick the right kid (and this is supposedly Hartigan's strength ) and the junior will probably surpass Amone's abilities by seasons end and be much younger ...sorry the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion
Yea ok . I agree with you. Maybe they think they can have thier cake and eat it too with the development contracts and CC cup later in the year. But I get your point . To me with AD , The jet , and such , they might be players with amone who the coach has a soft spot for.
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308819) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308813) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308793) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308787) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
Happy ,who do you want ? Who’s out there that fits the Bill? Especially if the club has trained all offseason with certain kids positioned as the starters .
I'd prefer we back a junior who we think has a lot of potential who we snatched from another club ....I just don't see what a 24 year with virtually no experience brings to the squad ......
Pick the right kid (and this is supposedly Hartigan's strength ) and the junior will probably surpass Amone's abilities by seasons end and be much younger ...sorry the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion
Yea ok . I agree with you. Maybe they think they can have thier cake and eat it too with the development contracts and CC cup later in the year. But I get your point . To me with AD , The jet , and such , they might be players with amone who the coach has a soft spot for.
Amone isn't worth wasting a cap position on ....reality ...if we are sticking to a junior policy ...stick to the policy is all I'm saying ...one of the WT's biggest mistakes in our history is not backing decisions made for the future to the absolute hilt
@snake said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308762) said:Sign Hastings for this season the club is on its way to a top 8 finish Maybe a top 6... injuries will be the defining factor.
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308131) said:@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308063) said:@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1307997) said:@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1307988) said:@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1307934) said:@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1307932) said:@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1307871) said:There's a lot of optimism on this forum this preseason but I don't really see it. I like what Madge is doing in well priced athletic young players everywhere but we'd have one of the worst rosters in the league. Not bad players, most would make NRL squads, but no elite talent anywhere. Madge has cleaned the squad out a fair bit and I expect more short term pain for all that. I hope the new players work out and doueihi and mbye moving positions again, but there's really nothing yet to suggest we're competitive this year. I think next year is when I expect us to compete. This year anything above 12th would be a pretty good job by Madge. Again, I think we're doing the right things it is just going to take more time overcoming cleary's squad so I'm hoping the right players show promise this year and we're finally able to recruit quality players with money to spend to start lifting this team. For your own wellbeing, I'd encourage you just to look at the other NRL teams and think objectively about how many of our players would add much to other teams. I only really think brooks, twal, nofo, tamou, Luciano would attract much interest from other clubs. Maybe I'm forgetting 1 or 2 but most teams have better lineups.
Although I agree with this post ..... “worst roster” should not be part of the narrative.
In my assessment We are still a mid table side which will struggle because our spine is not settled, no established goal kicker and we are lacking in back row/ lock quality & experienced player.
There are more questions than answers about this side and that is not a good look.
But saying that I have hopes and am looking for improvement on last years efforts and that eventuates than we are just couple of good players away from the finals.
Idk about worst roster, but the spine is bottom 3.
Just off the top of my head, I’d take our spine over Dragons, Broncos, Bulldogs, and probably Titans and cowboys.
Black, White and Gold glasses here
Didn't we finish above most of them last year? I rest my case.
Are Harry and Benji in the spine this year? I rest my case.
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308825) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308819) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308813) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308793) said:@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308787) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308779) said:@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308773) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308771) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308768) said:@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308756) said:@tyga said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1308743) said:Looking at our roster and assuming we sign Amone, Tuilagi to the top 30 we have 29 and plenty of cap room.
Packer, Mbye, Walters replaced and upgraded will get us into contention. This team as constructed may take another 12 months but Madge is building a total squad.
?
I'd prefer we try and promote the talent from within myself
Why go out and sign these talented youngsters from elsewhere if we aren't going to have them training and learning from the best players our club has to offer
I don’t disagree but the squad is quite young Blore, Utoikamanu, Luciano, Simpkin, Douihei, Laurie, Simpkins, Tuilagi. More young players 50 - 100 games would be ideal.
Then Amone doesn't fit that bill ..does he ??
He kinda does. Still young and hasn't played heaps of first grade and was making the Souths bench regularly before injury. Can't really complain about a dirt cheap depth signing, you've gotta have them at the club
9 interchange bench starts in 2 years ...cmon really ...probably amounts to 3-4 nrl games at best .....Sheens and Bennett both always spoke about 50 NRL games ....a few more 50 games NRL players would be nice ......
Happy ,who do you want ? Who’s out there that fits the Bill? Especially if the club has trained all offseason with certain kids positioned as the starters .
I'd prefer we back a junior who we think has a lot of potential who we snatched from another club ....I just don't see what a 24 year with virtually no experience brings to the squad ......
Pick the right kid (and this is supposedly Hartigan's strength ) and the junior will probably surpass Amone's abilities by seasons end and be much younger ...sorry the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion
Yea ok . I agree with you. Maybe they think they can have thier cake and eat it too with the development contracts and CC cup later in the year. But I get your point . To me with AD , The jet , and such , they might be players with amone who the coach has a soft spot for.
Amone isn't worth wasting a cap position on ....reality ...if we are sticking to a junior policy ...stick to the policy is all I'm saying ...one of the WT's biggest mistakes in our history is not backing decisions made for the future to the absolute hilt
Yea . I’ve got to say I understand that view point . I can’t say I have an honest take personally . I don’t remember ever seeing Amone play . But I will say this . I cannot remember a single forward who we’ve recruited since Madge , and harty joined that I’ve wondered “huh , I don’t get it” .
And we have had a lot of those guys in recent years . With every single guy in the pack we’ve signed lately I’ve thought , “yep that makes sense “ . So as Amone is a forward , I’ve going to reserve judgement for later I think.