Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[finnzo]

We would be mad not to offer liddle a cheap contract for next year we stuck by him through all his injuries he is a great back up hooker to Simpkin people saying we shouldn’t hold him back from a starting role at another club he is off contract and is free to sign where ever he wants so we Carnt stop him from doing anything the choice is his

 

[JC99]

lol all we heard last year was Brooks is crap only has 4 TRY assists or something..this year they are not important..isn't a big thing..OK BYE..

When you come out with a big statement that you're leading the team around then fail to do so it's deserves to be questioned. Try assists are important but it's not his main job and shouldn't be used to cover up his weaknesses as a 7.

I'm glad he's assisting more tries, wish he would work on the kicking game more.

 

[The_Patriot]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

I agree.

its a version of moneyball rugby league style.

Invest in the best youth at the teenage stage of their development and bring them through.

At the same time you need to bring through your won juniors and offer pathways for them. Something this coach IS doing.

For all his faults he is doing the right thing in building the squad.

 

[Eca]

Keep raiding the best juniors.

This isn’t the Premier League...you can’t come 18th this year and buy a new team of stars and come 4th the year after.

Look at the Dogs...big splurge for no return. Barrett is doing a Cleary at Bankstown.

The guys we’ve bought still haven’t gelled, but there’s talent there. They need time.

There’s no one great available on the market now, so let’s buy 2 or 3 Daine Laurie 2.0’s next year until someone decent comes along at a reasonable price.

The young talent identified by Hartigan is second to none. They’ve been some of our best players. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Totally agree. There's definitely enough talent there which makes it more frustrating. It wasn't too along ago most where happy with our recruitment leading up to rd1.
Our issue is more our cohesion in defense. .. many new players, new combinations. 1-17 up to now still major changes each week. In stages of team dynamics, we are nowhere near performing stage. Top 6 teams, generally have a set starters, minimal changes when someone is out & dynamics is not severely affected.. Us, be a while still..
Talent wise put the current jtj in a top4 team & we be like, we want him, so quick so dangerous. Corey Allan, Nick Cotric looked good last year.. now..

I believe the club is heading in the right direction recruitment wise.. we will get better, well it can't get any worse 🤣
just my 2cents

 

[JD Tiger]

Whose to say Liddle can’t develop into a lock ala Connor Watson?

Sounds like that's what we got Hastings for though


Based on what? Forum speculation. No one knows where Hastings will play. Madge night not even know

Madge might not know for sure, but he most definitely should have a pretty good idea. Signing a player up without at least some idea of how you're going to use him surely is beyond even us.

 

[hsvjones]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !


I agree.

its a version of moneyball rugby league style.

Invest in the best youth at the teenage stage of their development and bring them through.

At the same time you need to bring through your won juniors and offer pathways for them. Something this coach IS doing.

For all his faults he is doing the right thing in building the squad.

Agree.. The hardest thing unfortunately is to keep them before other poach them. That's why I want Simpkin signed up long term ASAP

 

[The_Patriot]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !


I agree.

its a version of moneyball rugby league style.

Invest in the best youth at the teenage stage of their development and bring them through.

At the same time you need to bring through your won juniors and offer pathways for them. Something this coach IS doing.

For all his faults he is doing the right thing in building the squad.

Agree.. The hardest thing unfortunately is to keep them before other poach them. That's why I want Simpkin signed up long term ASAP

The thing to remember is that if you aren't losing them you aren't developing them.

Our fans get a little too focused with losing players as some bad coaches have royally screwed us with retention.

 

[Milky]

We have a gun spine apart from Brooks. Our forward pack isn’t too bad either, our backline is terrible but not expensive either. Roberts isn’t on much at all and Leilua wasn’t signed on a lengthy deal. Both will probably be gone next year.

Madge is stuck with at least 1.6mil tied up in Packer and Mbye who will both be gone soon.

We have made great investments in Simpkins and Laurie. Also the young gun forward from Parra is a beast, the other Simpkins looks to be coming along nicely.

Our squad is building nicely and I am keen to see the other signings Madge will be making, especially when the burden of Mbye and Packer are gone.

Brooks was the form halfback of the comp when he re-signed so I’m not going to judge Madge over that decision.

Would be good if we can use the Packer money to sign Staggs. Kind of devastating that Kapeoa is out for the season, would have allowed us to see how he goes and make a decision on whether we need another centre for next year.

 

[happy_tiger]

lol all we heard last year was Brooks is crap only has 4 TRY assists or something..this year they are not important..isn't a big thing..OK BUY..

Buy who ??

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Katoni Staggs seems to be on the outer with all potential new clubs. Off field issues seem to be the problem would he be worth the risk with a one strike and you're out clause for any any off field issues.Thoughts

 

[AJ1]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

Who looks more dangerous when they're running with the ball. Stats don't give the complete picture.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

Who looks more dangerous when they're running with the ball. Stats don't give the complete picture.

Take Luai out of Pamfers and they would struggle most of their attacks revolves around him running the ball

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Katoni Staggs seems to be on the outer with all potential new clubs. Off field issues seem to be the problem would he be worth the risk with a one strike and you're out clause for any any off field issues.Thoughts

For the right price yes.
I wouldn’t be throwing an open cheque his way though

 

[isaaktigers]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

Who looks more dangerous when they're running with the ball. Stats don't give the complete picture.

Because no one is man enough to run at him and put a hit on him..

So many times Lawrence shut down JT back in the day.. just mark your man..

Before people say “he’s too illusive”, no ones tested him under pressure..

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

Who looks more dangerous when they're running with the ball. Stats don't give the complete picture.

Because no one is man enough to run at him and put a hit on him..

So many times Lawrence shut down JT back in the day.. just mark your man..

Before people say “he’s too illusive”, no ones tested him under pressure..

He really dominates a passive defence.
Really need to take his space and limit his options

 

[izotope]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

I know Brooks deserves some criticism but I feel like people don’t give credit where it’s due.

He is playing well at the moment, not perfect but certainly better than last year and considering we have a spine that is basically all new it’s going to take time for all of them to gel.

Difference is brooks actively chooses to run it, he doesnt go to the line with options, its pass or run.

 

[Bones]

Re the signing of Reynolds, Brown, and others.. Penrith has shown the way, and that is the blueprint we should follow.
We must look and plan for the future, and not buy players in their twilight years, we have been burnt badly in the past.
Do the Storm, Easts, Penrith etc buy players at their career ends ? Anxiety causes bad decicions, success takes time.
We must learn from the errors of the past.


In my mind we are already doing just that. We have learnt and the guys in charge of recruitment have done a fair job.

Yes it's like investing in shares and property, you buy at the bottom of the market, not at the top, otherwise you have only one way to go, and thats down! As the song goes,--YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD THEM, AND KNOW WHEN TO THROW THEM !

very smart the club never rushed Signing Liddle they knew what they had in Jake Simpkin use the Liddle money to try and go towards buying a centre along with Joey L money

I think they should still sign Liddle for 2022. He's a great back up option if Jake gets injured

I think Liddle is still a good player and deserves a crack at first grade at nrl he is better than a backup he is just not as good as Jake Simpkin

No doubt a quality player like Liddle will be snapped up by another club and come back to bite us.

he is not better than simpkin though so happy to lose him can't keep everyone

I hope Simpkin is better than Liddle.
But I can't say that he is based on 1 game.
If you're looking at Reserve grade games he didn't produce anything close to Liddle's performance last week.
At the moment Simpkin is still just a hype train that hasn't proven himself.

ok Dwight a Liddle 49 first grade game fan versus 1 game for Simpkin.
Luckily Madge does not agree with your assessment
Bar injury Liddle wont replace Simpkin this year

Simpkin may be replaced by Liddle at some point this year, and not just through injury, very definitely.

Just because Madge picked Simpkin last week over Luddle, that doesn't mean he thinks Simpkin is better than Liddle. It means last week (and this week), Madge thinks Simpkin can do the job better than Liddle in the game at hand. Maybe vs Dragons in a few weeks Madge wants a different plan and picks Liddle?

simpkin is signed and at present Liddle is not. if we dont move Mmbye on I can't see Madge resigning Liddle

Then they will still be looking to sign another specialist hooker for 2022 as just 1 specialist will not cut it

Mbye becomes the specialist 9

But he's not a specialist 9 and just saying so won't make it so...


M'Bye is not and probably never will be a capable hooker

then we have to buy someone else then as don't think we will keep Liddle he doesn't deserve to sit behind Simpkin if we have Mmbye we may aswell use him

Maybe letting Walters go without this (backup hooker) being sorted is somewhat unwise. Mbye is making, and has done, all the right signals and moves he is ready to go, but like everything he has to actually have a taker but it seems more than likely he will be gone at end of season. lf we also let Walters go with his contract expiring at ed of this season without trying to keep him or early identification and/or signing of this backup hooker we may be deep doo doo in 2022.

Who are some of these back ups? Jeremy Marshall-King from Dogs? Who else is out there without contract for next year and what team are they with?

agree maybe moving on walters is not a good idea, if we could move Mmbye on perhaps we keep walters (if his dad does not want him) and turn him into a 9
If Liddle does get signed by another club do you look at segayaro on the cheap

Really hate the fact if a player gets demoted and that automatically assumes they will move elsewhere. What ever happened to earning your spot and trying harder?

Liddle is on decent money and should knuckle down and work on his flaws. Hel be playing this year no doubt. Simpkins is too young to play 3/4 of a season in the NRL without picking up some niggling injuries.

On another note Id give Brooks to the end of the year. If he doesnt improve move him to 14 or out. Hastings and Douhie should be given first crack next year if we dont improve.

Brooks is playing well.

But you want to replace him if we don't improve.

Are you holding Brooks to account for the team's performance? You used the word we.

No one blames Luke for losing games but the problem is he is unable to create opportunities in the oppositions 20 that's as simple as it is ...a No7 with over 150 games experience should well and truly be able to be creative in that position on the field.
Opposition teams have no problem with nullifying him in the 20 ..unfortunately this has to be rectified if that means replacing him so be it !

Isn't Brooks doing quite well in try assists this year?

7 try assists
6 off passes
1 off a cross field kick
1 repeat set

His short kicking game is atrocious in the opposition kill zone

He's playing alright but he plays nothing like the top halfbacks do. He plays like a 5/8

But he doesn’t run enough to be a 5/8

Look at Luai, his first thought is run, and he is killing it

Luai has 41 runs in 7 games. Luke Brooks has 35 in 6 games so he is running almost exactly as much as Luai.

Who looks more dangerous when they're running with the ball. Stats don't give the complete picture.

100% but the comment I was replying to was that Luke Brooks needs to run more, not that he needs to be better at running.

There are 30 other halves in the comp that aren’t playing as well a Luai so it’s a pretty lopsided comparison.

It’s at the point where unless Brooks plays a perfect game people are just going to smash him and I think it’s unfair. He is playing well this year aside from a shocker round 1.

 

[facepalmer]

Katoni Staggs seems to be on the outer with all potential new clubs. Off field issues seem to be the problem would he be worth the risk with a one strike and you're out clause for any any off field issues.Thoughts

Yes tbh. I think our club has guys that are good for him. If he isn't getting offers anywhere else then it's a no brainer. We signed James Roberts for similar reason and they are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to on field contributions of late.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Katoni Staggs seems to be on the outer with all potential new clubs. Off field issues seem to be the problem would he be worth the risk with a one strike and you're out clause for any any off field issues.Thoughts

Yes tbh. I think our club has guys that are good for him. If he isn't getting offers anywhere else then it's a no brainer. We signed James Roberts for similar reason and they are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to on field contributions of late.

Hes got a $2.8m , 4 year offer from Brisbane on the table. He won’t be going anywhere.

 

[tony soprano]

Surely Moses a million dollar player at the moment broncos should give Milford money to Moses. He may take a payout for parra and a premiership they look likely this year